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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: sptsman]
      #254013 - 11/15/16 03:07 PM

They are pressing to score and now it's gotten to the point of exposing the rear for sake of offense which they still can't manage.

I agree, they should get back to basics and go from there.

I'm hearing lot's of talk and criticism of the 2 coach situation.

I don't know if that's it or not. But it shouldn't be.

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: last_stand]
      #254014 - 11/15/16 06:39 PM

Their goalie sucks and they are soft......end of story.

But hey.....we got Perron.

As far as I'm concerned, the biggest problem the Blues have had for the last 3 years, in the era of salary cap, is Berglund. He's handcuffed this team from making decent moves more than any other issue.

I've got good tickets for 8 more games (club seats).......Bueller?? (I've already sold the tickets from my 2 and 3 game)

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: griffin]
      #254015 - 11/15/16 07:04 PM

But.but..but.. Hitch is a genius! Everybody said so!

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: IIFID]
      #254016 - 11/15/16 08:32 PM

There is nothing wrong with Hitchcock....he's not playing.

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: griffin]
      #254018 - 11/16/16 07:06 AM

So, I watched all three periods last night and was pleased for the most part. Keep in mind, however, Buffalo sucks and their missing their two best players. We'll get a better read against San Jose Thursday night...

What concerns me is the sloppy and loose play in their own end. The forced and unforced turnovers are far too frequent. They need to tighten that up a whole bunch. You make those kinds of mistakes against top tier teams and you'll be in a hole quicker than you can say "He shoots he scooooorrrres"

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: sptsman]
      #254019 - 11/16/16 07:47 AM

Pleased??? With that???

Over a dozen giveaways in your own end?

Blues win.....thanks the crossbar and goalpost.

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: griffin]
      #254020 - 11/16/16 09:49 AM

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Pleased??? With that???


A 4-1 victory where you out-shot, out-hit and out-played the opponent is generally considered a good thing...

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griffin said:Over a dozen giveaways in your own end?


That was addressed as the concern. Not sure about the "Over a dozen..." part...

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griffin said:Blues win.....thanks the crossbar and goalpost.


Crossbars and goalposts are part of the game. Sometimes they help you, sometimes they hurt you. The goalies say if it hadn't hit the post, it would have hit me...

You're getting crabby in your old age...

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: griffin]
      #254021 - 11/16/16 10:21 AM

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There is nothing wrong with Hitchcock....he's not playing.




Yep year after year it's never his fault...
So who will they get rid of at the end of this season because he doesn't fit Hitch's system? Tarasenko? Fabbri? Schwartz?

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: IIFID]
      #254022 - 11/16/16 11:58 AM

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Yep year after year it's never his fault...
So who will they get rid of at the end of this season because he doesn't fit Hitch's system? Tarasenko? Fabbri? Schwartz?





I'm pretty confident they'll get rid of Hitch..

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: IIFID]
      #254023 - 11/16/16 04:22 PM

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There is nothing wrong with Hitchcock....he's not playing.




Yep year after year it's never his fault...
So who will they get rid of at the end of this season because he doesn't fit Hitch's system? Tarasenko? Fabbri? Schwartz?




What years?

The five straight years he has taken us to the playoffs?

Should we go back to Kitchen, Murray or Payne?? Do you remember 2005-2010?

Even now, with all the team problems, it's hardly Hitchcocks fault who he has on the ice and how they are performing.

Hitch was left with a transition team this year. He's gone next year. It doesn't look like he brought us a Cup, I'll give you that. But until 2 of our centers begin to play real hockey this team is going to struggle to find any kind of win against the better teams, I don't care who is behind the bench.

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: last_stand]
      #254025 - 11/16/16 07:02 PM

OK so you're satisfied with just "Making the playoffs"? I'm NOT! I'm old and have been a Blues fan since the beginning. I have dreams of seeing someone wearing the Note hoisting Lord Stanley's Cup. I'm very confident it won't happen with Hitch at the reins.. And I realize that the man has been successful, but he hasn't won a Stanley Cup in this millenium..

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: IIFID]
      #254026 - 11/17/16 05:17 AM

I say there's good coaches, great coaches and bad coaches.

A great coach is actually a good coach with great players.

Hitch is not a "bad" coach.

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: last_stand]
      #254027 - 11/17/16 05:37 AM

Here's Fabbri after the game taking on the much bigger Gorges the other night:

“I don’t know what got into me there, but I just felt like I wanted to be that guy,” Fabbri said. “I went out on that shift and asked him. The funny part was, he’s like: ‘Are you serious?’ I’m like, ‘Well, yeah, kinda.’”

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: last_stand]
      #254029 - 11/17/16 12:07 PM

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I say there's good coaches, great coaches and bad coaches.

A great coach is actually a good coach with great players.

Hitch is not a "bad" coach UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS START.


Fixed it for you..

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: IIFID]
      #254034 - 11/18/16 03:49 AM

3-2 win over the Sharks. Moving in the right direction...

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: sptsman]
      #254038 - 11/19/16 09:10 PM

Home Sweet Home





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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: fastman]
      #254039 - 11/20/16 05:34 AM

Hitch is a genius!bwaaaa

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: last_stand]
      #254040 - 11/20/16 06:02 AM

3-1 win over Nashville. 3 straight wins at home. They've cleaned up the play transitioning out of the defensive zone, for the most part. Still not perfect but much better. The hustle and intensity if much better overall...

As predicted Hitchcock and Yeo cleaned it up and it looks like the players have bought-in and are playing Hitch's game. Quite frankly, I like watching his style of play. The straightforward, vertical play and tenacious forechecing is just more entertaining to watch, when a team has the skill to make it work ... and this team has the skill...

The next 2 games will be a good test to see how they're progressing. Boston and Washington on the road. Both are good teams and will require their A game. 2 or 3 points out of those two games would be good... We also get to see our old buddy Backes. I wonder if Fabbri will take him on...

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: sptsman]
      #254041 - 11/20/16 04:08 PM

You won't see Fabbri take him on but it is at least possible you might see Reaves do it.

Hitch has been letting the 4th line go against opposing teams #1 and 2 lines. Backes might be looking for some fun and find Mr. Reaves instead.

It's the 4th line that is playing old school. The other three are trying.

Whatever it takes for the puck to get in the net is ok with me. Blues have to hang and make a move late like last year. I hope.

Let's see if the Blues and Allen in particular are ready to win on the road.

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: last_stand]
      #254050 - 11/22/16 05:10 PM

That tenacious forechecking is key..

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: Bubba]
      #254053 - 11/23/16 07:29 AM

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That tenacious forechecking is key..




It was key last night and led the boyz in blue to a big road win... 4 in a row but more importantly, a good showing on the road against a good team. And without one of the top 3 or 4 players, in Steen.

Gotta cut down on the penalties. It is becoming a big issue that needs to be addressed..

Washington tonight. A win would be huge. A point would be nice. Even a loss in a good showing isn't all bad. I just hope they don't lay an egg and use the "tired" excuse...

Go Blue!!

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: sptsman]
      #254056 - 11/23/16 03:08 PM

Well, the Caps are on 2 days rest in the middle of a home stand and the Blues with a back to back roadie.

The Boston game had a ton of upside. Coming back in the game, Allen sharp on the road, Stasny finally getting another goal.

It was one of their best performances as a team all season.

I agree....there is much to be said for this team ending the up/down thing and being plain good most nights.

Can't believe I'm saying it, but I'm coming around to be a Peron fan. But I'm still rubbing my eyes every time I see him back checking.

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: last_stand]
      #254057 - 11/23/16 04:36 PM

Puck Ferrron......he sucks the same as he always has.

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: griffin]
      #254058 - 11/23/16 04:45 PM

I knew that'd get a rise out of you.

Settle down now Bubba. I'm talking to griffin.

Ferron doesn't puck anymore. Ferron is a second generation Blue now. Hitch shipped him out and now Hitch pulled him back into the fold.

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Re: 2016-2017 Saint Louis Blues [Re: last_stand]
      #254073 - 11/27/16 12:35 AM

For the record....I am not behind this team yet. Tarasenko looks like chit and I don't like Stastny, Perron, or Allen...so save it. This team will not win with those players as "stars".

Until the Blues play a game, win or lose, when they are not on the minus side of defensive giveaways, I'm out.

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