H2ODOG
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Dude is stil working on the sybermetrics to see if DeJong can hit a breaking ball
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I thought we settled that. He produces off curve balls above average. What don't you understand about "above average"?
Leak was a POS and had to go. Terrible signing to begin with. Horrible. Clubhouse problem to boot. It was a classic and expensive cash dump to Seattle, where he might actually be able to perform better.
Dawg and I agree on a lot of what the team needs but I'll go a step further.
Piscotty needs to go.
I would protect only Yadi, Fowler, Pham and Kelly and from that we need to get a true first baseman with power and a SET outfield and a good closer with a set up man. The OF part should be no problem.
I am up in the air but very leery on signing Lynn to some huge contract. Change that, don't sign him.
Weaver
Wacha
Reyes
Alcontara/Flagherty???
Martinez
There's still good young arms on the farm beyond above when needed. F/A pick up here as well to round out the top five. DeWallet needs to buck up, if his GM is worth a chit it all works out.
Sick of these stupid azz long term contracts for guys like Leak nothing more than anchors on the teams neck. That's what I think Lynn will be too so let him go he is not worth 90-100 million.
Lots of great things happening on this team but MAJOR changes are in order. This teams needs to get back and emphasize, or at least focus, on D. Guys like Carpenter and Gyorko and Piscotty are not good enough to hide playing like they are.
MAJOR changes are in order.
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H2ODOG
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Still one of the worst non contact averages in the majors............and that's because of his swings and misses from the breaking stuff. Once good teams figure out he can't hit an off speed pitch , he won't get many fast balls. Then we get to see what he is really made of. The 9 men LOB 2 nights ago was real cute also.
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H2ODOG
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DeJong smoked a Fastball into the seats just now. He saw 3 breaking balls and got a fastball with a hitters count. He looked confused on the first 3 breaking balls. I'm surprised Bum threw him a fastball.
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Beginning to look like the division title might be the best opportunity for the redbirds.
One of the great things about baseball is the 162 game schedule, the dog days then the ups and downs of the last tough month. The kids from Memphis have put a lot of energy into this team when Matheney allows it. I hope its enough.
Definitely looking from the outside in right now but dang, the Cards are in contention again.
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sptsman
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I read a quote by Wacha regarding yesterday's game. He was being praised for his effort and said something to the effect that it is coming down to the wire and these games are all important now... I want to take players like him that say stupid chit like that and choke them!! Do these slackin' mofo's not understand that wins and losses in May and June and July count exactly the same as the ones today?
Combine that moronic statement with the one Pham made a few weeks ago, about so few guys working hard every day and you have all you need to know about the leadership on this club. And it all starts with the Manager. Matheny is a sub-par MLB Manager and needs to be reassigned to some other job. You don't realize how much you need a cut throat, win-at-all-costs manager, until you have to watch a "players manager" like this guy...
All that being said, this pathetic excuse for a team could actually find themselves in the post season. I wouldn't bet a plug nickle on it and if they get in, I would bet even less on them winning a series. But I guess stranger things have happened and I'll be more than happy to eat crow, if they do. But every time this team has been close, they chit their drawers and take two steps back.
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All that being said, this pathetic excuse for a team could actually find themselves in the post season. I wouldn't bet a plug nickle on it and if they get in, I would bet even less on them winning a series. But I guess stranger things have happened and I'll be more than happy to eat crow, if they do. But every time this team has been close, they chit their drawers and take two steps back.
Oh, so hockey season has started? 
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Personally, I'd leave Phams name out of any conversation regarding what has been wrong with this club this year.
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if you compare april records for the rockies and the cards, the april wins are what are keeping the rox ahead of the cards..
hate to agree with the sptsman.. 
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H2ODOG
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The cardinals bullpen is the reason we aren't sitting in 1st place. April, May, June, July........you name the month. Cecil, Broxton, Oh No, Rosenpuke early. You can't blow games late and expect to win a division
17 blown saves by the pen. 27 losses on the shoulders of the pen also.........and we are just 2 games back in the division. 40% of our losses are from the bullpen. That's unacceptable and the reason we sit 2 games back in the division.
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The Braves are 23 back for exactly the same reason.
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sptsman
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The Braves are 23 back for exactly the same reason.
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wuchang
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Phambino 20-20 man
On to the small bears this weekend
Birds 3 out in division and 3 out in WC
Who'd a thunk it??
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I'll take it considering all the issues.
They really need 2 of 3 up there to have a shot, and Martinez needs his good stuff to get it done.
4-8 so far against these guys. They either got it or they don't right now. Hoping to see a pissed off John Lackey later today.
Oh wait a minute, I'm teeing off this afternoon.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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H2ODOG
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You do realize the walleye are still biting good at........nebermind. I forgot you golfers don't fish
I got asked to play golf today........and declined to go sit in a tree stand. I hate deer hunting but stil chose it over golf. I take it you don't bow hunt either.
I am watching Lackey and Contrarras blow a head basket on TV right now. Apparently Lackey didn't get a call and lost his mind on a guy that scored people. Way better than golf
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H2ODOG
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https://www.facebook.com/GolfDigest/videos/10155874683123729/
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wuchang
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Friday Birds 3 games out--
today 6 games out with 13 to play
Looks like the fat lady is getting ready to sing
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sptsman
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Friday Birds 3 games out--
today 6 games out with 13 to play
Looks like the fat lady is getting ready to sing
It is over, finished, done... Time to look forward to some Blues hockey.
The Cards season can be summed up pretty easy. They had a roster with holes in it all year long, they played as fundamentally poor as you can play in the bigs and they had a bullpen that was grossly ineffective far too many times. This isn't too hard to figure out. If they want to win next year, priority #1 will have to be new leadership. You can put all the talent you want on a team, if the leader isn't a true leader and doesn't demand perfection from his players, they will not succeed. If you can't hold people accountable for their work habits and performance, you can't lead them. Fixing the holes in the roster and the bullpen isn't going to be easy but it really isn't that hard to identify the issues. They just need to avoid fixes like Cecil and Fowler. Heavy price tags and mediocre or worse performances will put you in a hole you can't dig out of...
Let's go Blues!!
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H2ODOG
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Friday Birds 3 games out--
today 6 games out with 13 to play
Looks like the fat lady is getting ready to sing
Time to look forward to some Blues hockey.
Well fork.....you might as well get a couple sharp objects, and poke out your damn eyes is that's what you are looking forward to. Talk about one lack of performance, no heart, no one stepping up to the plate team, not living up to expectations.......trading one poor team for one just like it, possibly even worse. fork......you might as well watch some Pizzou football in your down time if you like to be so damn Miserable.
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H2ODOG
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For the record, Fowler wasn't the issue. Yes he started off the season with one of the worst starts a player could have. Dude has batted .285 in the second half of the season and batted .286 in the month of June. April and May hurt his average bad. He hit lots of HR's but that was about it. A few stints on the DL didn't help either.
Same player as Heyward offensively for less money......but we still overpaid to get him to sign. He's more of a $10-14 million a year guy.
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wuchang
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fork......you might as well watch some Pizzou football in your down time if you like to be so damn Miserable.
Don't hate myself enough to watch that rolling clusterfork
Got a choice between watching road goat hunting on cable or the Cards--
yep-- rat forked again
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sptsman
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For the record, Fowler wasn't the issue. Yes he started off the season with one of the worst starts a player could have. Dude has batted .285 in the second half of the season and batted .286 in the month of June. April and May hurt his average bad. He hit lots of HR's but that was about it. A few stints on the DL didn't help either.
Same player as Heyward offensively for less money......but we still overpaid to get him to sign. He's more of a $10-14 million a year guy.
No doubt Fowler was not THE problem. He was, however one of many problems. For what he was paid and what was expected, he was a significant disappointment. No way to sugar coat it. He was being paid to play at a reasonable level all year. He will likely have around 60 RBI's, over 100 strikeouts and played a below average outfield, by any metrics you want to use. I hope like hell he gets is chit together next year or this will go down as one of the worst signings in the last several years... Although Cecil may have that honor already wrapped up.
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Worst signing? bwaaaaaaaa ....Fowler played hurt a lot. He is definitely not the problem they need to fix so why bring him up. This team has tons to do before mentioning his name. He needs to move out of center and I think he will.
Grichuk, Piscotty, Carpenter. There's 3 problems.
Bullpen, there's 4 problems at least.
Clean up, there's one really big problem.
Matheney, he's beyond problems.
And as difficult as it is, Mo might be the biggest problem of all if he doesn't make MAJOR CHANGES for next year.
Lightning could stike on Mike Shannons head AND they could win the WS but it wouldn't change my mind on any of this.
This team needs a big time shake up.
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Was at the feed store today getting a bag of winter wheat and one of the hangers around threw out that the Cards only have to go 9-3 if they can beat the Cubs and Brewers in the last week and a half.....and yes, he was dead serious
Thought the roof would fall in from all the laughing.
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H2ODOG
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Was at the feed store today getting a bag of winter wheat and one of the hangers around threw out that the Cards only have to go 9-3 if they can beat the Cubs and Brewers in the last week and a half.....and yes, he was dead serious
Thought the roof would fall in from all the laughing.
Mac has a far better chance of going crane hunting with me this fall than the Redbirds do of making the playoffs............and he ain't ever coming crane hunting with me.
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