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2017-2018 STL BLUES
      #255293 - 06/23/17 05:39 AM

As good as any way to kick off the new season thread.

Tarasenko:

"It’s 2015, and our team does an event for kids battling sickness. I am matched up with young girl from St. Louis whose name is Arianna. I remember first time I see her, it’s like, you have no idea. She comes with a biggest smile, grabs my hand very tight. O.K., I’m thinking, when we meet. This is what it is to be a strong person. And we have great time.

Then a few months ago, me and my wife, Yana, we’re at auction for charity and see opportunity. There is a prize at auction, it’s “Travel With the Blues.” You win this prize, you go with Blues for road trip — travel with team for some games, spend time with team between games, basically you are one of us, part of team. So we have this great idea. Outbid everyone at auction (sorry, guys). And then we give prize to Arianna, for her 11th birthday."

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255295 - 06/23/17 08:45 PM

I sold my 1/2 interest in 2 season tickets yesterday.... fork them. I'll come back when Armstrong is gone.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255296 - 06/23/17 09:49 PM

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I sold my 1/2 interest in 2 season tickets yesterday.... fork them. I'll come back when Armstrong is gone.




Sold them too soon. After the moves tonight, I see a Cup next season...

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: sptsman]
      #255297 - 06/24/17 06:02 AM

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I sold my 1/2 interest in 2 season tickets yesterday.... fork them. I'll come back when Armstrong is gone.




Sold them too soon. After the moves tonight, I see a Cup next season...






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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255298 - 06/24/17 06:11 AM

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I sold my 1/2 interest in 2 season tickets yesterday.... fork them. I'll come back when Armstrong is gone.




Promise?

We got it. We get it. Now you can go away. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Hate losing Reaves. There will be a lot of whining on this one. In fact, I expect to hear it any minute now. bwaaaaaaaaa ..........But at least the Blues knew exactly what they had with him and used his upside value to go for the top ranked European in the draft, wild card and all.

Schenn for Lehtera? gee.......lemme think about this.

Might not be over yet......after signing Parayko, Blues should have some 6 mil in cap left to deal for another forward.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255301 - 06/25/17 04:57 AM

Oh.....YAY!!! They got the top ranked European.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255302 - 06/25/17 06:51 AM

Six posts in and this thread is already resembling Trumps twitter feed

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: dabs]
      #255304 - 06/25/17 05:08 PM

You gotta be shitting me! Already??

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: Bubba]
      #255306 - 06/26/17 06:53 AM

They appear to have done well in the draft but you really never know how well you did until 4-5 years down the road. Unless, of course, one of them sets it on fire in the first year or two. Overall, it looks like they did pretty well... And all of the "experts" that grade drafts gave them high marks as well. Not that it matters that much if I've already given my opinion. That's really all you need.

The trades upgraded this team, period. If you think otherwise, you're just not paying attention or have just turned into the village sourpuss (not mentioning anyone in particular here...). Sucks to see Reaves go but if your counting on a 4th line fighter that isn't allowed to fight making or breaking your season, you have some major problems. Getting rid of Lehtera and getting Schenn might be the biggest swing in negative for positive this team has seen in the last 20 years (hard to top the Hull trade). Now, if they could just find some way to dump Berglund...

I'll probably start looking for someone to split season tickets with this season...

Oh when the Blues go marching in, oh when the Blues go marching in. Oh lord I want to have season tickets. Oh when the Blues go marching in...

DA for GM of the years next year as well. It's a lock...

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: sptsman]
      #255307 - 06/26/17 10:14 AM

Blues hockey is a dumpster fire. Almost as big of an abortion as Pizzou Football. Go Dawgs!!!!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: H2ODOG]
      #255309 - 06/26/17 10:45 AM

Only Blues fans, who have been there through 50 years of mediocre hockey, can actually stand up and say they are happy with the moves the Blues have made so far. All this version will ever be is another middle of the pack team with no heart......and they certainly didn't do anything to change that.

Blues hockey is dead.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255310 - 06/27/17 05:18 AM

Solid D ... check
Solid goalie ... check
Improved offense ... check
Improved coaching ... To be determined

Very important to see how the coaching staff gels with the players and each other but it looks like some very good hires. Yeo showed he can both coach tactically and technically, as well as motivate, He will be a very good Head Coach for them. The addition of Berube, Sydor and Ott look to be just what is needed to inject some life into a few less-than-enthusiastic players. Looking forward to seeing how it all comes together.

The only question is will the addition of Schenn and the stepping up of a few existing players be enough offense? They will get Fabbri back and that will help. But a few others players need to step it up and play at higher levels than they did last year. Steen was one if the best players on this team for the last few years and just wasn't there last year. Was it undisclosed injuries or was he just burnt out by Hitch? Who knows? Maybe he's just getting a little older and slowing down. Stastny was brought in to play like he did in Denver and he has shown signs but simply has not played at the level he is being paid to play at. He needs to step it up. I have little hope that Berglund will perform at the level of a true #2 or #3 center but he needs to, for the cap space he is eating up. Maybe Ott can light a fire under him and inspire him to give 100% every shift. Of course there are a few others but there is enough raw talent on this team to go deep in the playoffs. You just have to hope it all gels, especially at playoff time and the injury bug doesn't bite you too hard...

So, unless you have turned so sour and bitter that you can't even see your way clear to an objective analysis, you have to see the oppportunity for the upcoming season to hold some promise. Are they odds-on favorites to be in the finals? Probably not but they look to be a better team than last year and they were one of the last 8 teams standing...

Looking forward to seeing how and if it all comes together for them...

Griff, maybe when you're finished running those kids off your lawn, you can take a step back and see things without those chit-colored glasses you've been wearing. There is a cool refreshing glass for you to drink of....

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: sptsman]
      #255311 - 06/27/17 05:57 AM

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But a few others players need to step it up and play at higher levels than they did last year. Steen was one if the best players on this team for the last few years and just wasn't there last year. Was it undisclosed injuries or was he just burnt out by Hitch? Who knows? Maybe he's just getting a little older and slowing down. Stastny was brought in to play like he did in Denver and he has shown signs but simply has not played at the level he is being paid to play at. He needs to step it up. I have little hope that Berglund will perform at the level of a true #2 or #3 center but he needs to, for the cap space he is eating up. Maybe Ott can light a fire under him and inspire him to give 100% every shift. Of course there are a few others but there is enough raw talent on this team to go deep in the playoffs. You just have to hope it all gels, especially at playoff time and the injury bug doesn't bite you too hard...






I don't know about sour and bitter......but I sure as hell know when I see the EXACT same thing said for the last 3 or 4 years about this version of the Blues. Gimme a forking break.......this particular version of the Blues sucks. No heart, no drive, no leadership.

I expect the same result and the same pre-season post next year at this time.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: sptsman]
      #255312 - 06/27/17 08:30 AM

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the stepping up of a few existing players be enough offense? But a few others players need to step it up and play at higher levels than they did last year. Steen was one if the best players on this team for the last few years and just wasn't there last year. Maybe he's just getting a little older and slowing down. Stastny was brought in to play like he did in Denver and he has shown signs but simply has not played at the level he is being paid to play at. He needs to step it up. I have little hope that Berglund will perform at the level of a true #2 or #3 center but he needs to, for the cap space he is eating up. Maybe Ott can light a fire under him and inspire him to give 100% every shift. Of course there are a few others but there is enough raw talent on this team to go deep in the playoffs.




Your post has a reoccurring theme. If they step up. When they step up. Hopefully they will step up. Someone should step up. If we get a leader on the team. If we find some heart suddenly in the offseason. You keep waiting for someone to step up. Everyone keeps waiting for it to happen. Wish in one hand. Chit in the other. I'm sure the Blues will skate into the playoffs like they typically do, and will be send home in yet another early round, in typical Blue fashion. No heart. No guts. No desire. No drive. Just collect a check and skate 80+ games a year. Do enough to keep getting paid and be noticed by a team with the management in place to win. Like Reaves..........do enough to get paid in STL, because you know you can't win there and hope to get traded to a winner. Sure he will have to play in Shitsburg, but his chances of raising the cup over his head and having strippers rub tits all over the cup while getting a BJ from another skank for a night while partying with the cup ACTUALLY becomes an obtainable goal on a team with the desire to win, not just exist and take in money from fans.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: H2ODOG]
      #255313 - 06/27/17 08:44 AM

The Pens wanted Reaves for the expressed purpose of protecting Crosby.....meanwhile we will leave Tarasenko to get pummeled into nothing during the playoffs. The Pens will likely win another cup in the next few years while the Blues fill their roster with "top Europeans" and players who need to "step up".

You can't make this same old chit up.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255314 - 06/27/17 12:03 PM

Good to hear you think Russian hockey players are a joke. While this kid is a wild card due to injury, he might come through big. That's the gamble.

I wish we had 2 straight Cups and a great team to be able to afford doing a move like Pitt did to get Reaves. At the same time, and I'm no fan for many reasons, I can't blame Armstrong for making this move.

It's harder than hell to get a winning team like the Blues over the top from where they are with the Cap in place. Pitt is still winning off their tank job years ago, the Blackhawks have done the same with their roster and multiple Cups, and now it's going to be Edmonton with all their first round picks coming of age.

I'm not making excuses, but I love hockey and this team is good enough by far to not turn my back on them. Not perfect, sure some should go, some shouldn't have been signed, but most every team in the league has similar issues.

If it's Cup or nuthin hey yeah you likely got nuthin but to b1tch away. Any time you might have actual suggestions for some moves the Blues should make to get that Cup then fire away. It ain't easy.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255315 - 06/27/17 12:38 PM

I fire away all the time you bonehead. They should have NEVER signed Berglund. Perron was a cancer, and I've got news for you, so is forking Statsny.....I keep telling you that there is a reason players like that bounce from team to team but you don't listen. If Petrangelo is a Captain I'll kiss your azz....that's a forking joke. That idiot Armsrong has ditched every character player this team had in favor of "the top European"....whichever one of those dickheads was next in line....it's a goddamn joke.

I'd get rid of Statsny AND the perrenial cripple Steen and get whatever I could for them. Use the freed cap money to find some grinders who can actually hold up to the physical pressure of the playoffs.

I'd dump Petrangelo too. Find me a defenseman with a temper and not these foking balerinas.....make him the Captain.

This team is a bunch of beardedclams......and you aren't going to change that by adding some forking Russians and Europeans....they have played girls hockey for their entire careers. They can play on a team that has some character already in place.....they can't play here.

Dude......I'm just getting started on how pathetic of a product this current roster is. Boring, gutless, hockey.....welcome to St. Louis. You all pointed to their late season "surge" last year like it was some kind of harbinger of what could be possible. It was, you numbnuts.....they were like the school 6th grade bully beating up 2nd graders. As soon as they had to go to school with kids their own age they turtled like they always do.

I don't give a rats arse what kind of a fan you are.......this is how we got here. By supporting mediocre hockey. Every word you write does nothing but that.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255316 - 06/27/17 01:53 PM

So glad I stoped by 2day...didn't c the trade r draft.

After all, it's big time golf season and the Y & R is gettin good





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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: fastman]
      #255318 - 06/27/17 02:33 PM

No managerial level abilities
Lack of leadership from the players
Veterans not stepping up
Front office bonehead decisions
No heart
Disfunction across the board

Damn.........are we talking STL Blues hockey or STL Cardinals baseball. Either way both teams have the same damn issues.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255319 - 06/27/17 04:23 PM

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I fire away all the time you bonehead. They should have NEVER signed Berglund. Perron was a cancer, and I've got news for you, so is forking Statsny.....I keep telling you that there is a reason players like that bounce from team to team but you don't listen. If Petrangelo is a Captain I'll kiss your azz....that's a forking joke. That idiot Armsrong has ditched every character player this team had in favor of "the top European"....whichever one of those dickheads was next in line....it's a goddamn joke.

I'd get rid of Statsny AND the perrenial cripple Steen and get whatever I could for them. Use the freed cap money to find some grinders who can actually hold up to the physical pressure of the playoffs.

I'd dump Petrangelo too. Find me a defenseman with a temper and not these foking balerinas.....make him the Captain.

This team is a bunch of beardedclams......and you aren't going to change that by adding some forking Russians and Europeans....they have played girls hockey for their entire careers. They can play on a team that has some character already in place.....they can't play here.

Dude......I'm just getting started on how pathetic of a product this current roster is. Boring, gutless, hockey.....welcome to St. Louis. You all pointed to their late season "surge" last year like it was some kind of harbinger of what could be possible. It was, you numbnuts.....they were like the school 6th grade bully beating up 2nd graders. As soon as they had to go to school with kids their own age they turtled like they always do.

I don't give a rats arse what kind of a fan you are.......this is how we got here. By supporting mediocre hockey. Every word you write does nothing but that.




bwaaaaaaaaaa.............year before last you were rooting hard for this team......now in a years time somehow it's my fault you don't like them.

Berglund, Stasny, Steen...........All horrible signings, 2 just last year. You walking now because of that? Or you got more players to b1tch about? What ever dude. "Dump" Petro. bwaaaaaaaaaa.........you could do that on the first phone call. Teams would line up to take him. He's NOT a friggen tough guy never has been. You just figure that out? THAT'S NOT HIS ROLE. But yeah, tell me who you got coming in to replace him and put him out there 28 minutes a game. Forkin Jake Allen will love you too. Good forking grief. Hey, Parayko ain't too tuff either. We can ship 'em out together.



Issues and all they were a top 8 team this past year. Tons of young guys coming up and more ready to break into the system. If Allen stays on course we are a better team by far going forward this year than last. Yes, we need a scoring, talented center. Yes, would love to have a big tough defense man. Who the fork doesn't? Just to change things up, why don't you try to explain precisely how the Blues get them?

You wanna Cup get in line. You wanna new GM so do I. You wanna biatch and moan all year go cry me a river.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255320 - 06/27/17 05:13 PM

Now that's telling him, LS!!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: Bubba]
      #255323 - 06/27/17 06:17 PM

You know, you're right, maybe the boys will "step up" this year.

I'm not spending a dime on this team.

And bro, this team was 5 points from missing the playoffs...saved by a quirky schedule. Even competing to win a cup is a forking pipe dream at this point.

I'm always gonna be a hockey fan, but not of this team under Armstrong. Still plenty of hockey to watch.


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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255326 - 06/27/17 10:31 PM

And hell yeah!! If they can get rid of Petrangelo and his contract for a scoring center or gritty winger.....or both if he's THAT valuable.... ....you're killing me here....then what is the hold up? The team has enough defense to compensate and he is an absolute joke as a C in this league.

As Ronald Reagan said, "Mr. Gorbechev......TEAR THIS TEAM DOWN!!!!!!!!"

I say again, this version of the Blues.....and I will for here on out refer to them as the Blouse... will NEVER EVEN COMPETE for a cup....winning it is laughable.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255327 - 06/28/17 05:03 AM

Well not that I give a fork but lemme know when the new tear down version of this team arrives for you cuzz it seems to me Schwartz, Fabbri, Tarasenko, Petro, Eddy, Parayko and Allen are gonna be around awhile with guys like Barbashev, Thompson, Dunn, Scmaltz, others and maybe even yet another dreaded Russian Kostin coming up.

Hope you can find an all North American Cup winning team with big bad bullies on it to root for next year....but man I'd hate to be them......bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255328 - 06/28/17 05:10 AM

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You know, you're right, maybe the boys will "step up" this year.

I'm not spending a dime on this team.

And bro, this team was 5 points from missing the playoffs...saved by a quirky schedule. Even competing to win a cup is a forking pipe dream at this point.

I'm always gonna be a hockey fan, but not of this team under Armstrong. Still plenty of hockey to watch.





Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............yeah it was all luck. That explains what you don't like uh huh. And those lucky Preds....hell they went into the playoffs as an 8 seed.............they took the "lucky quirky" title from right under them.

Hate away dude, but try not to look so stupid doing it.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255329 - 06/28/17 07:53 AM

Pay attention Webster - "quirky" is playing the easiest schedule in hockey...BY FAR....over the last 1/4 of the season. "Lucky" is what they were in getting to even the 2nd round of the playoffs.

If you need help deciphering bewteen those two words ask one of your grand kids.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255330 - 06/28/17 11:25 AM

Why don't you have one of your grand kids call and explain this jibberish............I don't have any and I'm sure they are used to knowing what you are really trying to say.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255331 - 06/28/17 11:50 AM

Lemme explain THIS jibberish to you.....Berglund out until December, at least, following left shoulder surgery. I guess the Blouse had no idea before they signed him, huh?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255332 - 06/28/17 12:15 PM

So.........having your #2 center who is eating up a ton of Cap room........unavailable until December, is that bad????

Maybe we can find another euro trash or friend of Putin to help out until he returns. You won't find anyone else to step up and take his plate. Too much heartless lazy bastards.........not that Beegland was doing much to begin with. Mediocre guy who doesn't score much or have many assists.........which begs to wonder why the fork did we sign him to a 3 year deal for such an average player who eats up the cap. Brilliant front office work as always.

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      #255333 - 06/28/17 02:09 PM

Couldn't agree more.

What else ya got?

I see the twin has joined in.

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      #255334 - 06/28/17 07:43 PM

LS - Armstrong has to go.....and Blouse nation needs to get behind that. I don't know who the replacement might be, but this guy is going to do nothing to move this team toward a competitive drive for the Cup.....he's got himself boxed in with these heartless lumps. The house needs cleaned and it has to start with him.

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      #255335 - 06/29/17 05:02 AM

Go back and read my posts. The Stasny and Lehtera contracts have been at best non starters and now he has re upped Steen and Berglund for more of the same from them. Hes had what 7 years now and he is going on his second "core" to work on while he keeps resigning his first core guys who did not lead or produce true contending hockey when it really counted.

And he has failed to land a scoring center in that entire time.

I am actually fine with Berglund getting hurt. We have better guys waiting to get a shot. That's how bad that contract was imo.

But I'm not walking because of Doug Armstrong. This franchise has had far worse gm's and trades and signings than with him and even you stuck through that crap when it happened.

Get over the 3 or 4 players you don't like. Or, do what you want. But this team has plenty of heart and talent elsewhere on the roster to cheer on for me.

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      #255336 - 06/29/17 08:17 AM

And now Mr. Griffin with the rebuttal:
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      #255338 - 06/29/17 09:19 AM

This is actually more like old time rasslin'..
"And now GRIFFIN tags in The Dog while they have Last Stand on the ropes..."

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      #255339 - 06/29/17 09:25 AM

2 dudes, who are both fans of the same team, arguing with each other about their individual level of support for said team..

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Just in case you kool-aid drinking mofo's wanna know how the 2017-2018 turns out. Here is your preview.

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Go back and read my posts. The Stasny and Lehtera contracts have been at best non starters and now he has re upped Steen and Berglund for more of the same from them. Hes had what 7 years now and he is going on his second "core" to work on while he keeps resigning his first core guys who did not lead or produce true contending hockey when it really counted.

And he has failed to land a scoring center in that entire time.

I am actually fine with Berglund getting hurt. We have better guys waiting to get a shot. That's how bad that contract was imo.

But I'm not walking because of Doug Armstrong. This franchise has had far worse gm's and trades and signings than with him and even you stuck through that crap when it happened.

Get over the 3 or 4 players you don't like. Or, do what you want. But this team has plenty of heart and talent elsewhere on the roster to cheer on for me.




Where is the heart on this roster?? WHERE?? Tarasenko? Petrangelo? Are you serious? Both fold under playoff pressure and need a true team leader to help them through......they surely can't lead anyone else. Steen, Statsny, Lehtera, Berglund, Bouwmeester.....this group needs to get the fork out of here. And Petrangelo needs toi have the C given to someone who can LEAD.

Hell, you and Andy post the same crap year after year....."if these guys will just step up we can contend for a cup"......THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STEP UP FOR CHRISSAKES!!!!!! Keeping them just perpetuates more of the same and poisons players who might develop into something better. Thank god that forking Perron is gone.....more poison.

And trading Reaves while holding on to that group of losers is an absolute joke. Fork Armstrong!! I walk until he's gone.

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      #255343 - 06/29/17 01:25 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsD1p1O31OM

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      #255345 - 06/29/17 03:43 PM

OK so get over the 10 guys you don't like. bwaaaaaaaaaa

And the gm.

How 'bout towel guy.......let's dump him too while we're at it.

We just ain't going to agree in the end.......but I am pretty sure I agree with maybe 70% of your comments.

The other 30% gives me a head ache.

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      #255346 - 06/29/17 03:47 PM

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This is actually more like old time rasslin'..
"And now GRIFFIN tags in The Dog while they have Last Stand on the ropes..."




Moe Larry cheese.......Moe Larry cheese.........bwaaaaaaaaaaaa

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I like towel guy.....and he's got a hell of a reserved parking spot down there. BTW - he's pretty fed up too.

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I like towel guy.....and he's got a hell of a reserved parking spot down there. BTW - he's pretty fed up too.




Towel guy is a f'ing dork. I cringe every time I see that goofball get up and do his thing...

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      #255350 - 06/30/17 05:40 PM

Pretty sure griff is losing it.

He likes towel guy.

Loves his parking spot.

Hates the Blues.

The boy has had it after 50 years. The jibberish is winning out in his mind........No Cup No Blues. His twin is in full support, egging him on all the way.

This is a sad day to lose a 50 year guy. I've done what I can to keep him in the fold and hold on to what is dear.....but alas.... he .....he's....like a millenial now. Win or nothin.

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Pretty sure griff is losing it.

He likes towel guy.

Loves his parking spot.

Hates the Blues.

The boy has had it after 50 years. The jibberish is winning out in his mind........No Cup No Blues. His twin is in full support, egging him on all the way.

This is a sad day to lose a 50 year guy. I've done what I can to keep him in the fold and hold on to what is dear.....but alas.... he .....he's....like a millenial now. Win or nothin.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa




Nah.........compete or nothing. I'm not asking for anything more than the best that Blue's fans money can buy considering the absolute support they have received for the past 50 years. This team is heading backwards, and I'm simply NOT going on that ride. But have fun (backwards is something you can keep up with I think)......they certainly need all the Homers they can get right now.

And yeah man, Towel man has the best parking spot in the entire area....if I was going to games anymore it'd be great to have.

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Pretty sure griff is losing it.

He likes towel guy.

Loves his parking spot.

Hates the Blues.

The boy has had it after 50 years. The jibberish is winning out in his mind........No Cup No Blues. His twin is in full support, egging him on all the way.

This is a sad day to lose a 50 year guy. I've done what I can to keep him in the fold and hold on to what is dear.....but alas.... he .....he's....like a millenial now. Win or nothin.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa




Nah.........compete or nothing. I'm not asking for anything more than the best that Blue's fans money can buy considering the absolute support they have received for the past 50 years. This team is heading backwards, and I'm simply NOT going on that ride. But have fun (backwards is something you can keep up with I think)......they certainly need all the Homers they can get right now.

And yeah man, Towel man has the best parking spot in the entire area....if I was going to games anymore it'd be great to have.

griffin




The few games I go to I use that garage on Chestnut............$5.00, not jammed and a 6-7 minute walk tops. Walks are good. Don't know why people freak out with that. I know joggers and bicyclists that will do anything to cram into a close parking spot. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

We'll see what happens. We should be better than last year. We should be a pretty dang good team actually. I hope to see one or two rooks contribute too. I will be pulling for the minor miracle once again, just like the other 50 years.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255365 - 07/02/17 07:31 PM

The blues signed two FA right wingers but didn't lose anyone on the FA market.. yet.. Maybe Griff is right and they don't have anyone that other teams want..

Shattenkirk turned out to be a very short-term rental for the Caps...

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: IIFID]
      #255377 - 07/04/17 06:54 AM

Armstrong landed Thorburn to replace the "muscle" of Reaves. Pretty solid move. Trying to think if what else DA could have done better this off-season. So far he's grading out at and A or B+. Almost making up for the disastrous Berglund signing...

Blues finish #1 or #2 in the Division and in the top 5 of the Western Conference. Should make the Conference Finals and could be in and win the Cup this year.

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      #255378 - 07/04/17 08:26 AM

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Armstrong landed Thorburn to replace the "muscle" of Reaves. Pretty solid move. Trying to think if what else DA could have done better this off-season. So far he's grading out at and A or B+. Almost making up for the disastrous Berglund signing...

Blues finish #1 or #2 in the Division and in the top 5 of the Western Conference. Should make the Conference Finals and could be in and win the Cup this year.

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      #255379 - 07/04/17 08:41 AM

I gotta admit it's gonna be fun having a washed-up enforcer, who has never been a part of a winning program, that the players call Thorbs. Those 4 playoff games he's appeared in during his 12 year career will really come in handy at crunch time.

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      #255380 - 07/04/17 11:00 AM

Thorbs??????

Isn't that those little balls of light they talk about in Ghost Adventures???


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No, Wu, you are thinking of an Orb. A Thorb is a delusional thought that Last Stand or Sptsman has with regard to anything about the Blouse.

Example - "the Blues will have a good chance of contending next season".

That's a nice Thorb.

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      #255383 - 07/04/17 11:52 AM

"The Blues will be better than they were last year and require a minor miracle to"...well.....you know.

last stand will stand by that.

I'm gonna miss Reaves and so will the Blues. The fact it will take a Russian to determine the outcome of that trade makes me laugh. Hard. bwaaaaaaaaaaaa

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      #255384 - 07/04/17 03:27 PM

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"The Blues will be better than they were last year and require a minor miracle to"...well.....you know.

last stand will stand by that.

I'm gonna miss Reaves and so will the Blues. The fact it will take a Russian to determine the outcome of that trade makes me laugh. Hard. bwaaaaaaaaaaaa




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"The Blues will be better than they were last year....




No they won't....at least as the roster sits right now. Mark it down.

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No, Wu, you are thinking of an Orb. A Thorb is a delusional thought that Last Stand or Sptsman has with regard to anything about the Blouse.

Example - "the Blues will have a good chance of contending next season".

That's a nice Thorb.

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"The Blues will be better than they were last year....




No they won't....at least as the roster sits right now. Mark it down.

griffin




Oh I got that down. Enough with all the BS. Game on.

And be sure and let me know if you see a roster move you like that will change your mind.

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Quote:

griffin said:
Quote:

last_stand said:
"The Blues will be better than they were last year....




No they won't....at least as the roster sits right now. Mark it down.

griffin




Oh I got that down. Enough with all the BS. Game on.

And be sure and let me know if you see a roster move you like that will change your mind.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa




Hey you could be right.......if Steen, Statsny, Berglund, Bowowmeester, Petrangelo, and co. STEP UP.

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      #255389 - 07/04/17 09:08 PM

They could climb the Himalaya's and you wouldn't admit a step of it anyway. bwaaaa

I'm a homer for THIS team dude. Whatever whoever it takes is fine by me.

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They could climb the Himalaya's and you wouldn't admit a step of it anyway. bwaaaa

I'm a homer for THIS team dude. Whatever whoever it takes is fine by me.




Happiness in Mediocrity..........are you sure you aren't a closet Cubs Fan?? If THIS Blues team has you happy, you should be thrilled with Matheny and his cast of dipshits, especially the bullpen.

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      #255391 - 07/05/17 04:36 PM

You're getting confused again.

Hockey ain't baseball. Blues ain't the Cardinals. I don't associate the two, ever.

I've seen the worst stretch of Cardinal baseball in their history, in the 70's, and I never walked away. I went to 40 games a year back then, sat behind Lou Brock in left center bleachers every game. You wanna walk because of Matheney? Try some Vern Rapp.Don't regret a minute of it. Guess I was still high from '64 and '67. Anyway, 5 WS in my lifetime, I won't forget.

Blues are a different story, much different. Right now I'd trade 3 world series for 1 Stanley Cup. I might b1tch and complain sure but I will never walk away from them either. And root for forkin who? When they do this thing, I ain't gonna be on the forkin sideline.

This chit ain't life and death, it's supposed to be fun. I'm just trying to have some with my home team.

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Last Stand , my friend , you do not have to explain yourself to these Jabronies.

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Jaromir Jagr is available.. just sayin'..

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: IIFID]
      #255401 - 07/07/17 09:31 AM

Dallas will be tough next year......they will pretty easily finish ahead of the Blouse.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255404 - 07/07/17 04:03 PM

I think it's going to be interesting to see what they can do. They have made some smart moves, Bishop has to stay healthy and play well for them to make a run at the division.

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      #255475 - 07/20/17 05:21 PM

Parayko on board for 5 years with a pretty fair contract.

I'm glad they got him, he has an upside that is rather considerable and as far as Army deals go this looks to be one of the better ones.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255480 - 07/21/17 07:03 AM

This is a great deal for the Blues and not too shabby for Parayko...

Just one more solid move by Army to shore up this roster. Lots of reasons to be excited bout this coming year. I predict a first or second place finish in the Division and a top 5 finish in the Western Conf, followed by a deep playoff run.

Looking at this roster and coaching staff, I don't see the slackers being able to get away with it anymore. I can only imagine what Ott will be saying to a player after a mediocre effort on a shift or between periods or after a game. Hopefully, a few players will step up as leaders and hold their teammates accountable as well. If will be a much more realistic task with Berglund out for at least a few months...

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This is a great deal for the Blues and not too shabby for Parayko...

Just one more solid move by Army to shore up this roster. Lots of reasons to be excited bout this coming year. I predict a first or second place finish in the Division and a top 5 finish in the Western Conf, followed by a deep playoff run.

Looking at this roster and coaching staff, I don't see the slackers being able to get away with it anymore. I can only imagine what Ott will be saying to a player after a mediocre effort on a shift or between periods or after a game. Hopefully, a few players will step up as leaders as leaders and hold their teammates accountable as well. If will be a much more realistic task with Berglund out for at least a few months...

Go Blue!!






BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!



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This is a great deal for the Blues and not too shabby for Parayko...

Just one more solid move by Army to shore up this roster. Lots of reasons to be excited bout this coming year. I predict a first or second place finish in the Division and a top 5 finish in the Western Conf, followed by a deep playoff run.

Looking at this roster and coaching staff, I don't see the slackers being able to get away with it anymore. I can only imagine what Ott will be saying to a player after a mediocre effort on a shift or between periods or after a game. Hopefully, a few players will step up as leaders and hold their teammates accountable as well. If will be a much more realistic task with Berglund out for at least a few months...

Go Blue!!






Let's face it, this team has their hands full within their own division nonetheless conference.

But now that griffin has quit going to the games, they have a fighting chance.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255564 - 08/05/17 11:10 AM

60 days until the drop of the puck, for the first game of the 2017 - 2018 season. How can any real Blues fan not be getting excited?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: sptsman]
      #255569 - 08/07/17 11:51 AM

Open against the Pens and our old friend then it's the Stars and another old friend.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255676 - 08/15/17 05:35 PM

Hmmmmm

http://www.610sports.com/blogs/bob-fescoe/nhl-kc-blues-take-stl-comptroller-court

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      #255677 - 08/15/17 07:14 PM

What.......y'all gonna put 387 asses in the seats each night???? Y'all can't fill up the Royals ballpark with a playoff team. What are y'all gonna do with a team who makes this playoff every year, but doesn't do anything once they get there........you know, much like the Sqauws.

Come to think of it, Blues management and typical playoff roll over and die fit the KC mantra. Take them.

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      #255678 - 08/15/17 07:37 PM

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What.......y'all gonna put 387 asses in the seats each night???? Y'all can't fill up the Royals ballpark with a playoff team. What are y'all gonna do with a team who makes this playoff every year, but doesn't do anything once they get there........you know, much like the Sqauws.

Come to think of it, Blues management and typical playoff roll over and die fit the KC mantra. Take them.

Carry on.







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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: dabs]
      #255679 - 08/15/17 10:59 PM

Yeah, the Blouse is going to leave St. Louis for KC and the NHL is gonna sign off on it......yeah, that's gonna happen.

That West side crack is powerful stuff.

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What.......y'all gonna put 387 asses in the seats each night???? Y'all can't fill up the Royals ballpark with a playoff team. What are y'all gonna do with a team who makes this playoff every year, but doesn't do anything once they get there........you know, much like the Sqauws.

Come to think of it, Blues management and typical playoff roll over and die fit the KC mantra. Take them.

Carry on.







I didn't make the snow ball. I just threw it.

But I knew I could count on you being the attendance camp director.

I don't give a chit if they stay or leave St. Louis....but the plane ain't really cooled off from the Ram departure and they could be warming it up again




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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255682 - 08/16/17 06:52 AM

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What.......y'all gonna put 387 asses in the seats each night???? Y'all can't fill up the Royals ballpark with a playoff team. What are y'all gonna do with a team who makes this playoff every year, but doesn't do anything once they get there........you know, much like the Sqauws.

Come to think of it, Blues management and typical playoff roll over and die fit the KC mantra. Take them.

Carry on.







I didn't make the snow ball. I just threw it.

But I knew I could count on you being the attendance camp director.

I don't give a chit if they stay or leave St. Louis....but the plane ain't really cooled off from the Ram departure and they could be warming it up again




There's only one reason the Rams left the Lou. And he's the biggest prick in the universe.







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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: dabs]
      #255686 - 08/16/17 04:52 PM

I don't normally come to his defense cause Lord knows he can handle that himself , but I truly do not believe Dog had anything to do with the move.

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I don't normally come to his defense cause Lord knows he can handle that himself , but I truly do not believe Dog had anything to do with the move.






I had to go back and read to see what road you went down here.....and then almost spit my beer out.

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      #255691 - 08/17/17 08:48 AM

bubba doesn't say much, but when he does, he comes in and decapitates people..




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      #255702 - 08/17/17 02:47 PM

We'll fork.......it was set up on a T so good any waterhead like Sportsman or LS could have smashed it out of the park.

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      #255721 - 08/19/17 07:30 AM

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We'll fork.......it was set up on a T so good any waterhead like Sportsman or LS could have smashed it out of the park.




I would never do that to you on a Blues thread brotha!!
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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: sptsman]
      #255834 - 09/07/17 08:54 AM

Man was he cheered on ice.

Used to see him and chat with him at his bar in Cuba, Mo after his playing days. Heck of a nice guy.

RIP Noel.

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      #255836 - 09/07/17 11:14 AM

Somewhere at my parents house there is a piece of a cast from a broken arm I got playing street hockey when I was 10 or so. It's signed by Picard, Gary Sabourin, and Bob Plager. If you were a Blues fan when they first came here then you were a Picard fan. He was a fearsome defenseman.

Some of the funniest moments on hockey radio came when he came back to the Blues as an announcer after his career ended. He could barely speak English and it was hysterical.

Lots of people don't remember that what ended his career was an accident when a horse fell on his leg, basically shattering it to the point where multiple bones stuck through his boot. It was called a career ending injury by every doctor who saw him, but he actually came back and played, although for only a very short time due to loss of mobility....a truly tough guy, like most hockey players in that day.

RIP Mr. Picard.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255838 - 09/07/17 11:35 AM

He was one of many characters the NHL and all pro sports had back in the day. Thanks to social media and political correctness run amok, we'll never see characters like him again. Pro athletes have to measure every word they utter and be oh so careful in everything they do... NP was an open book for all to see. I met him a few times but never really talked to him or knew him. But like griff said, if you were a Blues fan, you were a Picard fan.

I sure hope the Blues do at least a little something to remember him...

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      #255902 - 09/19/17 11:39 AM

Welp, it starts tonight... sort of. Preseason game #1 starts in Dallas. Remember it, because this is the start of something special. A season that will undoubtedly end with a deep playoff run. A season that might just end with Lord Stanley's Cup being hoisted by this town's newest hero, Vlad Tarasenko. And the best news Blues fans could hope for came true. Berglund is injured and won't play with the team for some time...

What a great time to be a Blues fan!! Unless you're griffin, doing your best impersonation of Walt Kowalski.

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      #255905 - 09/19/17 02:32 PM

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: fastman]
      #255911 - 09/20/17 01:05 PM

Steen, Jbo and Berglund out.

Not sure we can set things up any better than that.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Just drop the puck, time to get this party started!

Hey bubba, should we do a game day thread tonight so you can help us cheer them on?

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      #255923 - 09/21/17 08:42 AM

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Hey bubba, should we do a game day thread tonight so you can help us cheer them on?




And Walt-griffin can biatch and moan...

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: sptsman]
      #255924 - 09/21/17 12:22 PM

I haven't really decided if I'm going to follow this year or not. I gave up my seats, and I don't feel any kind of excitement about the coming season. Plenty of teams look like they got better over the summer with some free agent signings, etc......but the Blouse seems to have basically stood still. I just can't generate much interest in it yet.

I agree the injuries hold some promise....and that pretty much sums up where this team is.

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      #255925 - 09/21/17 12:56 PM

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I agree the injuries hold some promise....and that pretty much sums up where this team is.

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May have laughed but I wasn't joking either.

Get Bias, Thompson, Walman and others up here and give them their shot.

For the life of me, I hope Yeo is not stuck on names. I don't think he is I think he'll play who he thinks will help the team most, vet or not.

Blues are outside looking in as I see it to start. I may not love all 20, but I like a lot of this team. We'll see where it goes from here.

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      #255927 - 09/21/17 02:00 PM

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I agree the injuries hold some promise....and that pretty much sums up where this team is.

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Get Bias, Thompson, Walman and others up here and give them their shot.





Yeah, maybe they will step up.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255930 - 09/22/17 05:06 AM

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I agree the injuries hold some promise....and that pretty much sums up where this team is.

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Get Bias, Thompson, Walman and others up here and give them their shot.





Yeah, maybe they will step up.

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Like they have in the past....right??


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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: wuchang]
      #255933 - 09/22/17 11:31 AM

Now they have one of my all-time favorite players in the fold. They just hired Larry Robinson. Too good to be true!!

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      #255935 - 09/22/17 08:00 PM

I've always been a Robinson fan.....and if he was still playing it would truly be too good to be true. Now he's a "consultant"......I guess like the goalie consultants the Blouse has had over the years. That certainly turned out to be a great thing.

Blouse finishes third, out by second round of playoffs. I can hardly wait.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255936 - 09/23/17 08:56 AM

I'm a Blues fan. As usual, more questions than answers.

You must be drunk. I'll take 3rd central and playoffs right now. And here I thought you were off the wagon. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Drop the forkin puck and let's get this party started.

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      #255942 - 09/25/17 12:09 PM

Here's a nhl game 2 snipit of the 18 year old Russian kid Kostin who won't ever make it in this league.

But I think Chaser likes him anyway. bwaaaaaaaaaa

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      #255943 - 09/25/17 12:32 PM

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You must be drunk. I'll take 3rd central and playoffs right now.




Of course you wold, because that's what you get year after year and you're happy with it. You forgot about the early playoff exit, because you get that year after year and support it too.

I don't see any looming new bright spots outside of #61.

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      #255944 - 09/25/17 02:18 PM

Car 61?

Or are you back in on hockey?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255945 - 09/25/17 02:52 PM

I doubt it, but I was flipping through the channels last night since I don't watch football anymore and came across the Blouse/Penguin game. I watched maybe 10-15 minutes of the 2nd period. Was pretty obvious to me, whatever his name was (I can't remember), #61 for the Blouse was the best man on the ice .

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      #255946 - 09/25/17 04:56 PM

bwaaa...an Irishman I believe.

Pretty sure he was up last year too for a few games.

This team has some great youngsters coming up. Including Husso. The way the injuries are already stacking up, it's a good thing.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255965 - 09/27/17 07:17 PM

I see Fabbri is lost for the season with his second knee surgery in less than a year. He's done.....no way he's stepping up.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: griffin]
      #255966 - 09/27/17 07:53 PM

So does that mean another person with no heart is out.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: H2ODOG]
      #255967 - 09/27/17 08:36 PM

Or......he just gets a 7 month head start on his golf game before round 2 of the playoffs when the rest of the team hits the course.....er.....hole.....uh......green.....or link, or tee off place thingy.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: H2ODOG]
      #255968 - 09/28/17 05:53 AM

Yeah that was his nick name, no-heart fabbri. You really do know hockey after all.

Big team loss. 2 same knee injuries, his career might be over too. This ain't lookin good. Blues will be doing all they can to stay out of the division basement.

Looks like you guys will have tons of fun coming up watching this team. Oh wait, you don't watch. I'll step up and keep you posted on this no-heart player team if you want. There will be at least 3-4 no heart rookies lacing up too so put it all together and this should be exhilarating stuff for you two.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255969 - 09/28/17 09:02 AM

Bro............if you think for a second that Fabbri was the only key piece keeping this team out of the standings basement..........well then they didn’t have much to start with.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: H2ODOG]
      #255970 - 09/28/17 09:26 AM

They started with a team that finished in the top 8 last year.

5 starters out before the season starts and Fabbri being the best one. I'd call him key. You call him heartless. Doesn't surprise me we disagree.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255971 - 09/28/17 10:30 AM

5 starters out before the season........and you clowns were happy 3 of them went down. Now suddenly it’s an issue and a reason they will suck. Make up your f’n minds.


I guess you hands have never heard of sarcasm........which doesn’t surprise me.......y’all watch golf and everything is so damn serious with that chit. No we won’t agree on stuff. You think DeJong is the next Tony Gywnn

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: H2ODOG]
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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: H2ODOG]
      #255973 - 09/28/17 11:36 AM

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5 starters out before the season........and you clowns were happy 3 of them went down. Now suddenly it’s an issue and a reason they will suck. Make up your f’n minds.


I guess you hands have never heard of sarcasm........which doesn’t surprise me.......y’all watch golf and everything is so damn serious with that chit. No we won’t agree on stuff. You think DeJong is the next Tony Gywnn




The difference between 3 and 5 in hockey is huge. And the last guy is most important of all 5 and he's gone for the entire year. At some point, the injuries matter.I know it's hard to follow, but at least try.

And you bounce around like a friggen pin ball. You really need to step up and focus dawg. Good thing deer camp is coming up.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255977 - 09/28/17 05:02 PM

So........the first 3 yall were happy to see go down so the new blood could take over. Now suddenly those 3 are a big damn deal to lose. Either you needed them or you didn't. If one damn guy makes the entire team fail or succeed, I'd say you forking failed as a GM and owner. I thought the Blues had all these great up and comers who needed the old heartless bastards to go down......and you were so happy they did.

The Blues weren't going to be relevant before the injuries. They aren't going to be now. Its not too late to unload all those season tickets. Some clown still drinking the kool-aid might be interested until the season starts. Worst case, you can watch golf while you stare aimlessly at the tickets on the counter, because you feel like a Mizzou football season ticket holder.

Just think increased their odds of getting a higher draft pick with another one going down.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: H2ODOG]
      #255979 - 09/28/17 05:18 PM

Hey griff....you hang with the dude....can you please interpret?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255983 - 09/28/17 06:12 PM

Last Stand is correct once again!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255985 - 09/28/17 06:52 PM

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Hey griff....you hang with the dude....can you please interpret?

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You’re an idiot. That’s the cliff notes, I’m blinded by loyalty Stanley Cup here we come mentality.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: H2ODOG]
      #255987 - 09/29/17 04:39 AM

I get the blinded part.

No one's predicting SC. Strongest prediction I've seen for this year was griffins.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: last_stand]
      #255989 - 09/29/17 09:40 AM

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No one's predicting SC.




I am. I think next year is more likely but I am predicting one this year too...

(Mostly just to see what chit griff and dawg will come up with next...)

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUES [Re: sptsman]
      #255990 - 09/29/17 10:36 AM

See there is still one Kool-aid drinking fool in the bunch. Hell Sportsman is probably got money in Vegas on them winning it all........probably back to back SC’s

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUEgrS [Re: H2ODOG]
      #255994 - 09/30/17 11:14 PM

Jagr to the Blouse?

I'd watch.

It beats the fork out of injured Berglund, Steen, and Bouwmeester....who can all remain in a body cast as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUEgrS [Re: griffin]
      #255995 - 10/01/17 08:03 AM

Hey!!!!!

Keep it down in here-- dude on TV was getting ready to putt and asked for quiet

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUEgrS [Re: wuchang]
      #255996 - 10/01/17 08:06 AM

Hey!!!!

Keep it down in here--- Al Gore asked for quiet while he tries to figure out why there is still ice at the North Pole in 2017

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUEgrS [Re: wuchang]
      #255997 - 10/01/17 08:08 AM

Hey!!!!

Keep it down in here

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUEgrS [Re: griffin]
      #255998 - 10/01/17 03:30 PM

Jagr.................that dudes almost as old as you. He will be good for 12 minutes a night. 15 at best. Then what do we do????

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUEgrS [Re: H2ODOG]
      #255999 - 10/01/17 04:54 PM

I'd take 12-15 minutes of Jagr per game over the 20 that Bowmeester, Steen, and Berglund get. Jagr can still feed Tarasenko on the PP too.

Plus, at least he's fun to watch.......they've got nobody worth watching at this point, unless you want to go to sleep.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUEgrS [Re: griffin]
      #256000 - 10/02/17 06:26 AM

So they sign Upshall.

Is that instead of jagr?

Nothing against Upshall per se but he's no jagr and then it also means another young guy gets blocked.

Maybe most of these guys really aren't ready but I'm pretty skeptical of what I am seeing. Yeo wants to keep the rookie number down, and I'm trying to find upside without doing the opposite.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLUEgrS [Re: last_stand]
      #256003 - 10/03/17 05:20 PM

So ,pray tell, when does our beloved hockey season begin??
I mean we are up to 18 pages of riveting dialogue already. Some of us can hardly wait.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: Bubba]
      #256004 - 10/03/17 08:30 PM

The season starts tomorrow. I think they might have a full squad. I hear Tony Twist is being talked to about signing a contract with the Blouse. Seems they need some heart.......or maybe it was balls. They’re lacking something and he might help fill a void.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: H2ODOG]
      #256008 - 10/05/17 04:49 AM

Plenty of heart and soul last night. A rough patch at the end of regulation, with a monumentally dumb penalty and getting overwhelmed afterwards for about 5 mins. But they overcame the adversity and the left the building of the defending Cup champs with 2 points and some really good things to take from the game.

You can't win them all if you don't win the first one. Looks like an undefeated season is still a possibility...

Go Blue...

Oh yeah, hard to imagine the officiating getting worse but it seems to be heading that way with the idiotic slashing rules that are now going to be enforced with vigor. And of course more of the same arbitrary calls and make-up calls that will keep the NHL a garage league for at least another season... When will these idiots that run the NHL see they are killing the game with the way these regular season games are officiated?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256009 - 10/05/17 09:01 AM

Quite a game. Down 1-0 and quickly answered the Cup Champs on their big celebration night.

5 goals.... my my. This team finished their plays last night.

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I agree that was a good effort.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256011 - 10/05/17 11:45 AM

I missed the game....I was watching The Greatest Game Ever Played, on the Golf Network. I kept waiting for them to show replays of Game 6 of the 2011 World Series, but it never happened. Only half way trough, did I realize it was a movie.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256012 - 10/05/17 04:11 PM

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I agree that was a good effort.

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Please don't think about crossing over and coming back home, where you belong.

Dawg wouldn't know what to do.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256014 - 10/05/17 04:32 PM



Hot dammer boys , we on a roll!!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: Bubba]
      #256015 - 10/05/17 04:34 PM

Considering I only work like 3 days a week, I imagine I'll just kick back and duck hunt and not clutter up my evenings with any sports.

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Quote:

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I agree that was a good effort.

griffin




Please don't think about crossing over and coming back home, where you belong.

Dawg wouldn't know what to do.

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They will have to win me back, and I doubt I'm alone as a long time fan of that team, but yeah, I'm watching and giving them the opportunity to do that.

We'll see.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: H2ODOG]
      #256019 - 10/06/17 09:30 AM

Hitch back in town and you better believe he wants this one.

Dallas picked as a contender for division title, big stuff. Bishop will have to be the old Bishop to do that and stay healthy too.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256020 - 10/06/17 10:42 AM

Hoping the Blues keep having the "D" get involved offensively. It's going to lead to some odd man rushes against but the net results should be very good. Both Pietrangelo and Parayko are very strong offensively.

Starting to see Pietrangelo as a much, much better Captain than Backes could ever have been. And if he keeps playing at this level, he's a Norris Trophy candidate. The guy is solid!!

Hitch will have them prepared to be sure. A win against the Stars would be pretty sweet. Let's hope they don't have a let down for their home opener like the Penguins did. BTW, anyone see the drubbing Chicago put on the Pens? Holy cow, that was ugly!!

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      #256022 - 10/06/17 01:48 PM

bwaaaaaaaa........didn't you hear? We need to trade Petro.

He should be paired with Eddy permanently, imo, jbo return or not.

Don't think he's a classic Norris defensive guy. Not so sure about the Captain thing either, we'll see. But he's been top 10-15 D for some time for sure for anyone who knows hockey and definitely one of the Blues best players.

After all these years, this team still doesn't have a top scoring center/play maker. Not many teams win the cup without one.

Back to the ice Saturday with a bunch of rookies that need to hang on and jump in while they do it. Dallas has one hell of an offense.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256024 - 10/08/17 06:22 PM

Well on the way to my prediction of an undefeated season... Can't win them all if you don't win the first two.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256025 - 10/09/17 06:42 AM

I like the long rushes by the defense. They've got the horses to do that. I hate dump and chase hockey.

They looked good these first 2 games. We'll see. The offense is going to have to play at a very high level for the entire season to make it work. They don't have many natural scorers so they can't let off the gas. Not easy in an 80 game season.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256026 - 10/09/17 04:02 PM

3 in a row. The prediction is solid... You guys may want to head to Vegas and make some easy money. Bet on the Blues... every game!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256027 - 10/09/17 04:07 PM

Bubba, you payin' attention?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256028 - 10/09/17 05:56 PM

I was intending to comment on the strengths and weaknesses of each player but the 3 Blouse Brothers took the words right out of my mouth.

I predict if we win every game we will make it deep into the playoffs.....next forking summer.

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I was intending to comment on the strengths and weaknesses of each player but the 3 Blouse Brothers took the words right out of my mouth.

I predict if we win every game we will make it deep into the playoffs.....next forking summer.






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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256030 - 10/10/17 05:55 AM

Bubba my man.....they say converts make the best Catholics. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256031 - 10/10/17 02:47 PM

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I like the long rushes by the defense. They've got the horses to do that. I hate dump and chase hockey.

They looked good these first 2 games. We'll see. The offense is going to have to play at a very high level for the entire season to make it work. They don't have many natural scorers so they can't let off the gas. Not easy in an 80 game season.

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      #256032 - 10/10/17 03:07 PM

I'm watching, but I'm not spending any money on them yet. I don't consider people who just watch sports on TV to even be fans....so I guess I'm still out.

Time will tell.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256033 - 10/10/17 04:59 PM

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............the latest narrative.

Gotta pay to be a fan now.

You said if Armstrongs in, you're out.

He's in.

Whatever dude. You're all over the place. I think dawg has made his mark.

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      #256034 - 10/10/17 05:11 PM

15 seconds in and a score...I am in!!! :lol: so is bubba

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      #256035 - 10/10/17 08:22 PM

4 in a row. Solid win!! Can't win them all if you don't win the first 4...

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      #256036 - 10/11/17 05:10 AM

Hutton played as well as Allen.

They were gassed in the third but hung on and NY goalie pull at 2:00 was a big mistake.

These 8 points might mean a lot more come March in this league.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256037 - 10/11/17 11:28 AM

Oh, don't worry, LS, I'm still out......just like the Blouse will be if they don't figure out to play 3 periods of hockey.

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      #256038 - 10/11/17 01:25 PM

I’m still out. Dallas Stars are on TV nightly where I’m at for some reason. I’m still wondering if the Blouse have won a game?? It doesn’t seem to make the news here.

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I’m still out. Dallas Stars are on TV nightly where I’m at for some reason. I’m still wondering if the Blouse have won a game?? It doesn’t seem to make the news here.




Perhaps you missed the game where they owned those Stars.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256040 - 10/11/17 05:26 PM

Ya I did. I honk I might have been crappie fishing that evening and night. Sorry. I’ll catch the next one.......meaning the next fish.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256044 - 10/12/17 06:02 AM

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Oh, don't worry, LS, I'm still out......just like the Blouse will be if they don't figure out to play 3 periods of hockey.

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They have more problems than that.

It's hockey bro......wtf else is there.

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      #256045 - 10/12/17 08:21 AM

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Oh, don't worry, LS, I'm still out......just like the Blouse will be if they don't figure out to play 3 periods of hockey.

griffin




They have more problems than that.

It's hockey bro......wtf else is there.




Dude - I watch at least some hockey every night....I love hockey.

But I don't feel any different about the Blouse then I did last year. It's way past time to just let this team be mediocre year after year. The St. Louis fans have proven themselves to be some of the most loyal in the NHL. There should have been wholesale management changes last year and I don't see the ship getting righted without it, much less a serious run at the cup.

It's a nice start and 8 pts. is 8 pts. no matter where you get them in a season, but no, I now feel let down by a team I've been loyal to for 50 years. No more loyalty without some big management changes and different personnel philosophy.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256047 - 10/12/17 03:31 PM

Whatever you gotta do. But Doug Armstrong is no more gonna take that team away from me than the man on the moon.

I expect this team to have its issues and struggles because that roster I see doesn't exactly spell SCF's. That's on him, either way it goes. But aside from a player or two, like most teams, it has zero to do with "no heart" by these players.

So I watch too cuzz I like hockey and then again because just maybe some magic of '64 or '11 might strike like lightening when a blink of an eye was the difference between champions and losers. You're done with that I get it, not really though, but I'll hang onto my deal just the same.

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      #256048 - 10/12/17 05:00 PM

I'm always gonna be "go Blue"....but it's high time to give something back.

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      #256050 - 10/12/17 05:29 PM

Damn skraight!

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      #256051 - 10/13/17 05:11 AM

Has anyone from the bottom six scored a goal this year??

Can it be the Steen of old that comes back soon??

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256056 - 10/14/17 09:40 AM

Oh chit, they lost a game!! Fire Armstrong!! Fire Yeo!! The players have no heart!!! Get new management!! Get new players!! Get a new philosophy!! Blah, blah, blah...

The Blues have been in the league 50 years. They've had at least 5 owners or ownership groups that I can think of off the top of my head (so is it probably 6 or 7 or even 8). They've changed "directions" fifty-eleven times and changed GM's and coaches more than griffin changes his socks. Fork more change. We finally have an owner that sincerely wants to bring a Cup here. He went out and got one of the most highly regarded GM's in hockey (regardless of the hatred a certain retired teacher has for him, the rest of the NHL and international hockey community holds him in high regard). He then surrounds that GM with a top tier coach in Hitchcock. When that didn't work, he got another well respected NHL'er and paid the jack to get him under contract. He then approves bringing in top tier assistants and consultants (anybody see what happened with the netminding when Brodeur worked with them? Or with the defensive production when Larry Robinson arrived? Or the intensity when Ott became an assistant? If you answer no to any of these, pay the fork attention!!). As if all of that wasn't enough, he approves paying to keep Parayko and making the move to get Schenn.

In short, this owner wants a Cup more than any of us and he is doing everything he thinks it will take to bring it here. He's putting his money where his mouth is. While none of us will agree with every move, the overall scene here is pretty damn positive!! So, you forkers that are calling for Armstrong's head on a platter appear to just be in need of something to biatch about or the common sense has leaked out of your brain. Just who the fork do you think is going to replace him that is going to do better? And after watching his moves this off-season, I'd say he is batting about .800 (yes, the Berglund move irritates me but I understand their reasoning - I just disagree with it).

Yes, this team has a few holes that are going to need to be filled by some youngsters or a trade, later in the year. But it has less holes than last year. Both Stillman and Armstrong made no bones about the fact that last year was going to be a step back, in order to move forward. And they still were one of 8 teams left at the end of the season. Unless you are just bitter about the 50 year drought and can't get over it, you have to be blind to not see that this team is heading in a positive direction.

As for me, I'll stay on board until I see a complete meltdown or the owner giving up. For now, I see an owner that cares deeply and a team heading in the right direction. I'll leave the biatching and name calling to the malcontents that probably can't be satisfied, no matter what the Blues do... The only serious change they need to make is to get rid of that stupid forkin' towel guy!!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256057 - 10/14/17 02:07 PM

Hey, wake me up if I start to snore.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256058 - 10/15/17 05:51 AM

Hockey has to own the biggest "good 'ol boys" club in sports. Armstrongs "regard" there means little.

He's had his share of good trades, bad trades, and then the mind boggling contract extensions here of late. He is NOT a top GM by any stretch when based upon performance. Batting .800 because he landed Schenn while he had to literally dump his mistake, Lehtera in doing so? And where is our top center to lead us to the promise land? How many years now? And don't tell me Stasny, that was made clear years ago. We need to get OVER THE TOP, not hang around the top for another decade.

I like Stillman and this group he represents. They are paying the piper and trying. But that good ol boy clubby thing has to end. This roster can't keep overachieving so he can keep his job.

Marty Broduer, anyone? I'd do it because....this franchise does need a top GM and....why the fork not?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256075 - 10/17/17 10:22 AM

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Marty Broduer, anyone? I'd do it because....this franchise does need a top GM and....why the fork not?




My guess is Broduer is getting experience to take a GM job somewhere but that us just a guess. Is he really qualified? Does he really even want a full time GM job? Who knows...

No doubt the NHL is a good ol' boys club but let's not pretend it is any more so than MLB or the NFL. Look at the re-treads those leagues have in manager/coach/GM positions.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256076 - 10/17/17 10:58 AM

I don't have to pretend. NHL is biggest GOBC in sports and then there's the bad hair cuts and bad suits to boot. bwaaaaaaaaaa

Broduer straightened Allen out so I can only guess he'd do the same with his next franchise. I suggest let that be Saint Louis. Smart guy, huge winner, perfect fit.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256078 - 10/17/17 11:27 AM

I'm going to lay down and block hwy 270, or the entrance to a Taco Bell, or possibly an Arby's, until Armstrong is gone.

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      #256083 - 10/17/17 04:40 PM

hmmmmmm........it's a good cause, well above taco bell or arby's palate.

So where on 270 will this be taking place.... just in case I happen to be nearby?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256091 - 10/18/17 08:35 AM

He will be jumping, head first onto the southbound lanes from the Big Bend overpass. That will close down the highway for a while. They'll have to repair the surface where his thick skull made a dent...

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      #256095 - 10/18/17 11:52 AM

I see the Shipmis taking on water. Y’all helping bale it out or throwing water back in the boat.

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      #256097 - 10/18/17 04:53 PM

Another dawg post in a Blues thread. Wonders never cease, nor does the dawg.

It might be early season but a big one tonight. Goals man Goals......this team has got to start scoring the forking goals.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256098 - 10/19/17 07:37 AM

5 enough for ya ls??





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      #256099 - 10/19/17 08:15 AM

Indeed!

Steens return allowed for Blais to play the second line, Sobi back to 3rd and Jaskin down to fourth. One guys return had that impact and it's a much better set of lines than before.

This team is going to need plenty of goals to compete, I don't see the shutdown D to count on.

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      #256101 - 10/19/17 09:42 PM

Big home game, and win, on Wed. night, then travel to Colorado to play at altitude less than 24 hours later. That's a tall order this early in the season. I don't know when I've seen a team just stand around as much as the Note did, from the Colorado power play near the end of the 2nd, through the 3rd period. That was a gassed hockey team.

So...........nice win for them. That's 2 pts. they probably couldn't have counted on.

It's a long season, but the first 1/10th has been good. Time will tell.

It's curious, the Blues goaltending has been good, but only two teams in the conference have allowed more goals. Then again, only one team has scored more.

I don't know about that formula for future success.....that likely won't be a winner in the long term. Then again, I don't remember a Blues team who's defensemen pushed up ice as much as they are doing under Yeo. We'll see.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256102 - 10/20/17 09:51 PM

Now the league has stated that the goal that was waved off against Colorado in the 3rd period (that would have made it 4-4) should have counted. Apparently that offside could not be reviewed since it did not immediately precede the goal. The offside was not called, but then the Colorado player came back outside the blue line, to put himself onside, prior to the goal, so it should have counted. More NHL rules/officiating weirdness for sure.....garage league stuff.

So the Blouse gets the extra point for the win on a bad call......and I'll take it since you get screwed by the officiating just as often.

Still....that 6-2 record on 2 overtime wins and a bad call (along with the goals for and goals against stats) puts the start in another perspective. They could very easily be 3-2-3, which is probably closer to where they are right now.

Again, I'll take 6-2, but the #1 record in the conference is not really indicative of where they are.

This team has a lot of work to do in order to be a contender....and anything less at this point is not good enough.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256103 - 10/21/17 07:36 AM

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Now the league has stated that the goal that was waved off against Colorado in the 3rd period (that would have made it 4-4) should have counted. Apparently that offside could not be reviewed since it did not immediately precede the goal. The offside was not called, but then the Colorado player came back outside the blue line, to put himself onside, prior to the goal, so it should have counted. More NHL rules/officiating weirdness for sure.....garage league stuff.

So the Blouse gets the extra point for the win on a bad call......and I'll take it since you get screwed by the officiating just as often.

Still....that 6-2 record on 2 overtime wins and a bad call (along with the goals for and goals against stats) puts the start in another perspective. They could very easily be 3-2-3, which is probably closer to where they are right now.

Again, I'll take 6-2, but the #1 record in the conference is not really indicative of where they are.

This team has a lot of work to do in order to be a contender....and anything less at this point is not good enough.

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Dude, we're 8 games in... Every team in the NHL has a lot of work to do to be a contender. Every team has weaknesses and flaws. Every team has roster holes. Right now it appears the Blues excellent GM has put together the right combination of players to win. We'll see how it gels (or doesn't) over the next 40+ games and we'll know a lot more. Enjoy the ride. We've already forgotten all the stupid chit you said...

For now, they're 6-2 and have put themselves in a pretty good position, should they hit a rough patch. Normally, this Vegas game would be a welcome "easy" game with an expansion team. Unfortunately, someone forgot to tell them they are supposed to be chitty...

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      #256104 - 10/21/17 01:54 PM

Keep drinking that koolaid for that excellent GM and right combination.

Dude - at this rate, you'll die swearing the last year you're alive is gonna be the one they win it all.

Wear Blouse!!!

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      #256105 - 10/21/17 02:49 PM

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Big home game, and win, on Wed. night, then travel to Colorado to play at altitude less than 24 hours later. That's a tall order this early in the season. I don't know when I've seen a team just stand around as much as the Note did, from the Colorado power play near the end of the 2nd, through the 3rd period. That was a gassed hockey team.

So...........nice win for them. That's 2 pts. they probably couldn't have counted on.

It's a long season, but the first 1/10th has been good. Time will tell.

It's curious, the Blues goaltending has been good, but only two teams in the conference have allowed more goals. Then again, only one team has scored more.

I don't know about that formula for future success.....that likely won't be a winner in the long term. Then again, I don't remember a Blues team who's defensemen pushed up ice as much as they are doing under Yeo. We'll see.

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It's a good thing your real self posted up 24 hours after this one, for a while there here I thought you were making some sense.

You have stupidly put yourself in this box because you hate Armstrong, you claim no heart team and no way anybody steps up.

So how in the fork can you be so conflicted about what this team is inside that pea brain of yours? bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

They fail and you win. Have fun with that. But it's a chit way to run a railroad.

And yeah, there has been some smoke and mirrors getting the 12 points. Specially without 5 starters. Dunn and Blais and others have stepped up nicely, but still need more from the bottom six.

This team has a long way to go before we really know who they are. But I see a lot of heart out there.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256106 - 10/21/17 04:36 PM

Really? You call 8 hits in a game heart? You call your #1 getting ran, and nobody fights, heart? Like I said, I'm open to this team at this point......but that's mostly because I LOVE hockey where the defensemen rush. But I don't yet know if this team is fast enough to pull that off......likely not....which is why the goals for/goals against disparity exists.

I think this is a competent team.....the #1 team in the West? No damn way. A cup contender.....not even close. This team is nowhere near tough enough. Call it heart, call it toughness, call it a strawberry daiquiri....I don't care....they don't have it. You can't win without it.

At this point, after 50 years of being a die hard fan....I'm only interested in one win.....the rest of that chit is just Andy and you snorting powdered koolaid off each other's asses.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256107 - 10/22/17 07:45 AM

ok, finally down to the brass tacks.

No chance, no contender, they don't have it and you ain't on board until they do.

The world is right again. Let's keep it there.

And for our readers here who might still be interested in cheering them on:

1) imo the biggest issue with the present scoring disparity is horrible PK and PP execution.

2)Yeo's system is up tempo and comes with risks. He obviously thinks it's the Blues best shot and I could give a fork if we aren't a Cup contender in October as they work with it. They play in the hardest division in hockey.

3)This team has a long way to go. Lots of chit might catch up with them. The odds are more than not with them. Got that. And I plan to ride along with 'em, in spite of the worst sports officiating in the world.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256108 - 10/22/17 12:04 PM

Oh, I'm still interested in cheering them on.....but if Yeo is the man, and his system is the plan, then Armstrong has to get the horses. I don't think the Blouse, as they sit, are fast enough to play Yeo's system without getting burned.. ....especially as the season wears on.

So.....the team's not fast enough, not tough enough, and don't have enough scorers.

I'm glad you don't care about October.....because this will likely be as good as it gets.

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      #256109 - 10/22/17 02:11 PM

Again, as I said before, not going to argue with a lot of your comments some hold water. I definitely do differ with the walking away thing. I don't get it and imo they, the players, don't deserve that. Your call so have at it. But going from Hitch's system to this one it seems logical all the "horses" are not going to be in place. Playing in this division and conference it seems logical it's going to be a bear to be on top. So for starting out, I don't see much to b1tch about just yet. And I give a chit about October points but dam right I want their best for April.

Right now they need to fix the PP and PK and have Allen play well and get the bottom six scoring and no more injuries. That's all. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

And somebody tell Parayako, one of my favs, his sophomore slump year is over. He's got the tools to be a top D man but the guy has to start to use them properly.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256110 - 10/22/17 05:53 PM

Well , I for one call it a strawberry daiquiri. Yall need to both lighten up , we have until May 2018 before this bullshit is over and done!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256114 - 10/23/17 06:25 AM

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I definitely do differ with the walking away thing. I don't get it and imo they, the players, don't deserve that.




Oh come on.....they get paid to produce. I don't want to hear about how they now have to change from Hitch's system to Yeo's or whatever. They ended up being mostly a bunch of whiners under Hitch and it remains to be seen what they'll become under Yeo.....but they just need to do their jobs to the very best of their ability.....just like the rest of us. If they can't get the job done then get 'em out of here. I'm not supporting mediocrity anymore.

There is plenty of hockey to watch these days with modern TV so I don't need to be tied to, and monetarily support, middle of the road hockey.

I'll always be a hockey fan. My daughters have become Predator fans so a couple of trips to Nashville will get my hockey money this year. Going to try to catch the Pens and maybe the Vegas team.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256116 - 10/23/17 09:02 AM

You don't like whiners and you're going to give your hockey money to the Preds?

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      #256117 - 10/23/17 12:11 PM

I don't care either way about the Preds. I like the city of Nashville though, and I like seeing the Penguins, and want to see the expansion club. I'm just not giving a single penny to St. Louis Blouse hockey under the current management/roster.

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      #256121 - 10/23/17 04:55 PM

bwaaaaaaaaaaa...........dude I get it. I think. Well, I had it the other day anyway. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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      #256125 - 10/24/17 07:29 AM

I was at the first Preds vs. Blues game in Nashville all those years ago (1998 I thunk). A friend worked at Service Merchandise WHQ and we scored on some really good tickets. It was pretty comical actually. Most of the fans didn't have a clue what was going on. They cheered on more than one occasion when the Preds iced the puck and were completely lost with regards to the rules like icing, offsides, and the two-line pass (now legal). And of course the NHL officiating was only slightly better back then, so they really had a hard time understanding what constituted slashing and hooking and interference and boarding, etc... and what didn't. I had to tell a few I was helping understand the rules, "Sorry, I can't help you with those. But wait until late in the 3rd period and you'll really get confused, if the game is close...).

Was also in Nashville last week for a few nights, for work. Was going to try to catch a game but was a day late for the Avs game and the Flyers game was in Philly... Those fans are really pretty good. They support their team and for what they lack in hockey IQ they make up for with enthusiasm. And they have a lot more hockey sense these days than they did when they started there...

If I were going to go all Walt Kowalski on the Blues and forsake them, like griffin, I could root for the Preds. But I'm not traitor like that...

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      #256136 - 10/24/17 04:00 PM

Jump on the Pred bandwagon like everybody else are in Nashville. Classic.

No doubt you would root for them as second choice, they whine and dive better than any soccer team in the world.

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      #256144 - 10/24/17 04:54 PM

Why do you hate country music?

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      #256145 - 10/24/17 05:31 PM

Kerry Underwood sucks.

What else you got?

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      #256146 - 10/24/17 05:44 PM

Damn dude.....Nashville wipes out the gutless losers you keep supporting and next thing you know you hate fried chicken and Robert E. Lee.

Maybe the Blouse can turn it around and beat them this year. I hope they do.....but you know you ain't confident they will.

That's what happens when you throw your support to a team with no heart blindly.

The only credit I give the Blouse is not protecting the most gutless of the bunch in the expansion draft......you know, your boy.

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      #256151 - 10/25/17 05:38 AM

Yeah, we all make mistakes some times, like wanting to trade Petro or getting so upside down wanting to go watch the Preds at their home ice to see real hockey.

I might be blind as a bat but at least I got a good brain.

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Say hey to Kerry for me. She's got some good tips to help you jump on their wagon as if you were always there. bwaaaa

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      #256153 - 10/25/17 08:57 AM

it's good to see two Irishmen going at it..

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      #256155 - 10/25/17 09:13 AM

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Yeah, we all make mistakes some times, like wanting to trade Petro or getting so upside down wanting to go watch the Preds at their home ice to see real hockey.

I might be blind as a bat but at least I got a good brain.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Say hey to Kerry for me. She's got some good tips to help you jump on their wagon as if you were always there. bwaaaa




Can you not read or is it a comprehension issue? I never said the Preds were real hockey. I said my daughters like the Preds and I like the city.....it's a win for all of us. Hell, now we're even looking to go see the the Preds in Nashville when they play the Blouse there. I think that'd be cool. As long as I don't give them a penny of my money I'll go watch the Blouse.....I'm just not supporting it.

Luckily, at this point in my life, I can go watch hockey in any city I want to. It just ain't gonna be St. Louis.

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      #256156 - 10/25/17 09:18 AM

He might have an Irish surname, but I can guarantee you he's got some blockhead blood in his veins.

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      #256157 - 10/25/17 09:19 AM

We get to see Keith Tkachuk's boy Matthew tonight. He played in griffin's new, adopted hometown, Nashville, last night. He scored a goal in the 3rd and sealed the win with a shootout goal. That kid is pretty solid!!

The Blues have to take advantage of some tired legs tonight. The Flames played into OT and a shootout last night. And they really aren't a great team anyway. An up-tempo game and a little extra jump in their step should benefit the Blues, especially in the 2nd and 3rd periods. If Allen is strong and the Blues play a solid game, this should be 2 pts.

Supposedly, they have been working on the PP and PK the last 3 days. We'll see. If it doesn't improve, they are in for a loooong season. Apparently, the NHL wants more and more special teams play. If that is the case and it appears to be, you better have good special teams.

My prediction: Blues 4 Flames 1

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256159 - 10/25/17 10:15 AM

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griffin said: I think that'd be cool. As long as I don't give them a penny of my money I'll go watch the Blouse.....I'm just not supporting it.

Luckily, at this point in my life, I can go watch hockey in any city I want to. It just ain't gonna be St. Louis.

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You realize any money you spend at a Blues game, home or away support them, right? Maybe you can stand outside and listen to the cheering...

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      #256163 - 10/25/17 11:38 AM

No, it doesn't support them in the same way....the league can do what the league wants, I have no control over that.

The Blouse is not getting any money from me. I'll support the NHL.....I won't support the Blouse. No beer, no parking, no merchandise, no food, no home tickets. Not a penny.

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      #256167 - 10/26/17 05:20 AM

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No, it doesn't support them in the same way....the league can do what the league wants, I have no control over that.

The Blouse is not getting any money from me. I'll support the NHL.....I won't support the Blouse. No beer, no parking, no merchandise, no food, no home tickets. Not a penny.

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Except the Blues get some of the revenue from that game in Nashville. I realize you are holding your fingers in your ears and humming, in hopes none of this information penetrates your brain but them's the facts, no matter how much you don't want them to be... Better come up with a plan B for your time in Nashville. Maybe hit Broadway and see if you can spot the next Merle or Waylon, while the rest of the family and friends enjoy the game...

To quote the great philosopher, Homer, "D'oh!!"

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      #256169 - 10/26/17 06:22 AM

A shaky start then a near perfect 2nd and third, 6 shots allowed in the third.

No way Dunn goes down when Jbo returns. Steen with a very good game and guys like Sundquist and Paajarvi played solid. PP and PK solid.

10 games, 15 points. Wow.

Some ask if they can keep this up all year with this up ice system but is it fair to also ask if they can actually get better at it with Allen playing as well as he is?

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      #256171 - 10/26/17 08:37 AM

I got to watch most of the game, flipping back and forth to the WS. Steen was what the Blues need him to be and how he has played in the past. Not so much about the points but the intensity and tenacious play. Of course, with that will come the points for a player of his caliber. Hopefully, last year was an aberration due to injury or something else. If he plays the rest of the year like he has since returning, the Blues will be a much, much better team.

Dunn seems to be the real deal but we need to see how he does after 40 and 60 games. Can he keep it up? Let's hope so.

Overall, last night was a great game, not because they won but because they took care of business when they should have. They took advantage of a lesser team that was gassed from an OT/SO game the night before. They never let off the gas and just buried them in the 2nd and 3rd. Had Allen not taken a spill like a 6 year-old, learning to skate, it would have been 4-1 or 5-1. That is the mark of a team playing with the right mindset and intensity. Get them down, keep them down and finish them off.

A big tip of the cap to Doug Armstrong for not only getting the talent needed but getting the chemistry right as well. Probably best GM out there, don't you think?

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      #256173 - 10/26/17 09:14 AM

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No, it doesn't support them in the same way....the league can do what the league wants, I have no control over that.

The Blouse is not getting any money from me. I'll support the NHL.....I won't support the Blouse. No beer, no parking, no merchandise, no food, no home tickets. Not a penny.

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Except the Blues get some of the revenue from that game in Nashville. I realize you are holding your fingers in your ears and humming, in hopes none of this information penetrates your brain but them's the facts, no matter how much you don't want them to be... Better come up with a plan B for your time in Nashville. Maybe hit Broadway and see if you can spot the next Merle or Waylon, while the rest of the family and friends enjoy the game...

To quote the great philosopher, Homer, "D'oh!!"




Like I said, I get it....it's what the league mandates. Still, after thinking it over, I won't be seeing the Blouse down there. Not a penny.

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      #256174 - 10/26/17 09:22 AM

If this team maintains it's intensity and produces in the playoffs, I'll be the first to congratulate DA. It's not like I've walked away from the Saint Louis Blues and gone to a band wagon team somewhere else. bwaaaaaaaa.

We miss Fabbri big time, I think a scoring winger will be needed. Would love to see Bennett or another rookie be the guy, thought Blais had a nose for it but they sent him down after 3 games, there's still Megan and Thompson too....who knows maybe Bergy can actually blossom into what we all hoped he would be.

Tis whatever it tis, will know more later.

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      #256177 - 10/26/17 11:51 AM

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maybe Bergy can actually blossom into what we all hoped he would be.





BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

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maybe Bergy can actually blossom into what we all hoped he would be.





BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

You can't make this up.

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Finally, Walt figures out something related to the Blues...

LS, dude, you get into the imported brownies at work today?

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      #256180 - 10/26/17 03:19 PM

Yes..... took some oxy this morning with my coffee.

I said "maybe" didn't I?

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      #256191 - 10/27/17 05:54 PM

I miss Fabbri too..

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      #256197 - 10/27/17 08:10 PM

Solid win for the Blouse tonight. The Carolina team was tired after a road game last night, but it's a game the Blouse has to win on rest, and they got it done. I was impressed by the 3rd period effort.

Now tied for the most goals in the conference and +9....very nice.

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      #256200 - 10/28/17 10:42 AM

Not bad for a slow, no heart, not tough enough team that has no scorers.

I'd put my money in Nashville if I were you. bwaaaaaaaaa

Thought for sure we'd see a stinker last night but instead this team is improving their weaknesses with each game it seems.

3rd line score, shots on goal way up, an outstanding PK that gave them the mojo for the game winner from Schenn.

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      #256204 - 10/29/17 08:22 AM

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Not bad for a slow, no heart, not tough enough team that has no scorers.

I'd put my money in Nashville if I were you. bwaaaaaaaaa

Thought for sure we'd see a stinker last night but instead this team is improving their weaknesses with each game it seems.

3rd line score, shots on goal way up, an outstanding PK that gave them the mojo for the game winner from Schenn.

If it's a dream, don't wake me up.




Dam....I had similar dream bout the pathetic b note

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      #256205 - 10/29/17 09:01 AM

When was the last time we've seen a Blues team roll like this one?

9-2-1 we've seen before, but not like this.

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When was the last time we've seen a Blues team roll like this one?

9-2-1 we've seen before, but not like this.




Uh......how about 7 years ago when they started 9-1-2 with 4 shutouts.

And in case your memory still hasn't caught up, they missed the playoffs that year.....they finished 11th!!!

Settle down, Sparky.

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      #256211 - 10/30/17 09:06 AM

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When was the last time we've seen a Blues team roll like this one?

9-2-1 we've seen before, but not like this.




Uh......how about 7 years ago when they started 9-1-2 with 4 shutouts.

And in case your memory still hasn't caught up, they missed the playoffs that year.....they finished 11th!!!

Settle down, Sparky.

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When was the last time we've seen a Blues team roll like this one?

9-2-1 we've seen before, but not like this.




Uh......how about 7 years ago when they started 9-1-2 with 4 shutouts.

And in case your memory still hasn't caught up, they missed the playoffs that year.....they finished 11th!!!

Settle down, Sparky.

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      #256218 - 10/31/17 05:53 AM

Not too shabby for an 11th seed team.

Here's what coach is saying:

"We've got a good team," Blues coach Mike Yeo said. "We've still got a long, difficult road ahead of us. We haven't accomplished anything except a good start and that can leave us very quickly."

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Not too shabby for an 11th seed team.

Here's what coach is saying:

"We've got a good team," Blues coach Mike Yeo said. "We've still got a long, difficult road ahead of us. We haven't accomplished anything except a good start and that can leave us very quickly."




You cut of the quote. Here's the rest of it, "...very quickly. We have Berglund coming back and we know that is going to drag us down because management is going to expect me to play him. So, we need to get all the points we can now."

I cringe at the thought of inserting that slug into the lineup. Is it that bad to hope a weight falls on his foot in, rehab and keeps him out another few months? He's still getting paid and it isn't a life threatening or life changing injury...

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      #256220 - 10/31/17 06:30 AM

So, they got by the one game I figured they might drop last night. 3 games in four nights, with the 3rd game against the 9-1-1 Kings with a red-hot Quick in goal. But noooo, Armstrong has done such a superb job of assembling a great roster, they take care of business. They play like men possessed. Intensity on every stride of every shift of every period of every game. Steen has played out of his mind. The 3rd and 4th lines are buzzing. Allen is playing very well and the D is coming together much faster than anyone anticipated. From what I have seen, a lot of the D's success is somewhat related to the intensity and great two-way play of the wingers and centers. The back-checking has been outstanding and the transition game, while still not 100% is much better than last year. Guys like Parayko and Dunn are great puck handlers for their age and experience level.

If you have been watching this team and can't see the chemistry, the intensity and skill level all coming together, well, you're hockey IQ is pretty low. Like Yeo says, it is just a good start and they have plenty to work on. But dayum, you have to be impressed with the boys to this point.

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      #256221 - 10/31/17 08:40 AM

Agree nervous putting bergy and Jbo back into this hopper is risky. Both big contract players who will get their time on ice come hell or high water. Hope Im wrong but neither seem to fit the scheme they are running with right now.

Last night was a great match up, really good game. Blues were beat in the first and then took the 2nd and 3rd away from the Kings. That's 3-4 games now in a row where they closed the door in the third with authority.

They're playing as a team, every body doing their part and clearly enjoying it. Great start to a long ride.

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Agree nervous putting bergy and Jbo back into this hopper is risky. Both big contract players who will get their time on ice come hell or high water. Hope Im wrong but neither seem to fit the scheme they are running with right now.

Last night was a great match up, really good game. Blues were beat in the first and then took the 2nd and 3rd away from the Kings. That's 3-4 games now in a row where they closed the door in the third with authority.

They're playing as a team, every body doing their part and clearly enjoying it. Great start to a long ride.




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      #256223 - 10/31/17 04:03 PM

For now, bank every point they can .........


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      #256224 - 10/31/17 07:03 PM

Without a doubt they need to bank every one of these early points while they are riding this wave.

I worry about this team.....they are not big and they have not proven themselves to be tough.

I read the article.......and I don't know if I agree that the Blues can play a rough style game. We'll find out soon enough because if this keeps up they will have a giant target on their backs.

I'm hopeful.....but it's really early. I think they have caught some teams by surprise with the tempo they've played at. They've been relentless. That's hard to hold and they've not proven they can. They'll have to, in order to succeed, because they are not overly skilled. I hope they do.

I'll say this, Yeo looks confident and in charge. His team has obviously bought in. Maybe Yeo is a budding superstar, and that's huge. If you look at the history of successful teams in the NHL it's hard to argue that the coach is not one of the most important cogs in the wheel.

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      #256226 - 11/01/17 06:15 AM

Pound for pound, I'd say this team is plenty tough. You have to say who isn't, because I'm not seeing any soft hockey out there. Brutes, tough guys and fighters? No. But the hits, blocks and checking all over is very much a part of who they are and how they're doing this.

Scoring and scorers concern me. If Schwartz can keep his play up it will go a long way towards pushing the whole team forward. As you say, it's about the intensity of the team and whether they can keep it up and make it work against adjusting teams. A tall order.

Mike Yeo had a more "skilled" team in Minny yet he lacked the other horses needed and ran into disputes with a few of his star players and ended up getting fired. I think he's learned a lot since and made some adjustments of his own. Love his in game approach and the players are listening. He had other choices when he came here but chose a goofy deal with the Blues for good reasons, including a really good depth chart of youth in waiting which is coming in handy motivating a lot of this team.

We'll see. We'll see how they handle a string of losses and other problems too. But I still say we haven't seen a Blues team win THIS WAY that I can remember. Just hoping that's a good thing and not another mirage.

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      #256227 - 11/01/17 09:50 AM

We'll see. I'm out for 5 days of duck hunting.....you track 'em and keep us posted.

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      #256229 - 11/01/17 10:38 AM

Curious, is the duck hunting around Nashville any good?

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      #256230 - 11/01/17 01:05 PM

I doubt it, but the partying is. You can actually stay downtown after a hockey game and have a great time. My daughters and I have 2 trips down there planned to watch the Preds. (money that would have gone to my Blouse hockey seats and vendors).

Maybe the Blouse can win my money back for next year.....we'll see. One thing's for sure, the days of my loyalty, with nothing in return from that team, are over.

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      #256233 - 11/02/17 06:00 AM

Yeah yeah got that some time ago. You go get your big return watching the preds....good forking grief......maybe buy one of those ugly sweaters they wear down there. bwaaaaaaa

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I doubt it, but the partying is. You can actually stay downtown after a hockey game and have a great time. My daughters and I have 2 trips down there planned to watch the Preds. (money that would have gone to my Blouse hockey seats and vendors).

Maybe the Blouse can win my money back for next year.....we'll see. One thing's for sure, the days of my loyalty, with nothing in return from that team, are over.

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      #256243 - 11/03/17 05:32 AM

The only good thing I saw there last night was Jake Allen.

Had their chances but couldn't finish.

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      #256248 - 11/05/17 07:06 AM

Looks like a pretty solid team. Winning the grinding games. Winning the track meet games. Still haven't lost back-to-back games. Always some things to work on but impressive so far.

Can't wait to see the February/March version of this team. In the meantime, what a fun ride. Sure glad I didn't take some goofy stand about them. It would be a shame not to be enjoying this...

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      #256249 - 11/05/17 03:09 PM

While not perfect by any stretch I thought the win against the high powered offense but no D Toronto team was somewhat revealing.

We took what they gave us, which was a lot, and beat them at their own game.

The Blues are balanced. That Petro guy looks good I think we should keep him. bwaaaa They got back on their checking game. They absolutely positively have to maintain high intensity team play if they want to get something done this year. It's the only way they can stay up in the West. We need a second line winger too, getting him without giving up the store will be a trick. Kyrou and Thompson are tearing it up down under, maybe it's time to give one of them a shot.

Hopefully griffin will give us updates on his Pred team and how his return is working out. I saw they won back to back games but heard they gave up 3 unanswered goals in the third to squeak out the second game. If I got this right, a shaky third period is still not actually a good return on his money but will have to wait on his report to be sure. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Looks like a pretty solid team. Winning the grinding games. Winning the track meet games. Still haven't lost back-to-back games. Always some things to work on but impressive so far.

Can't wait to see the February/March version of this team. In the meantime, what a fun ride. Sure glad I didn't take some goofy stand about them. It would be a shame not to be enjoying this...




I enjoy all hockey so there is always something good to see. I don't care about anything, when it comes to the Blouse, but winning a Stanley Cup. There is not a single thing they can do, other than that, which would cause me to have more than a passing interest....because I enjoy decent hockey.

For the Blues......that's it. Win it all. There's nothing else that matters.

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I enjoy all hockey so there is always something good to see. I don't care about anything, when it comes to the Blouse, but winning a Stanley Cup. There is not a single thing they can do, other than that, which would cause me to have more than a passing interest....because I enjoy decent hockey.

For the Blues......that's it. Win it all. There's nothing else that matters.

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So let's analyze the absurdity of this post. You enjoy good hockey and the Blues are arguably playing the best hockey in the NHL... But because that good hockey is being played by the team that has let you down in the past, it isn't good enough to watch until they win a Cup. But if they win a Cup, you will have not enjoyed it because you didn't watch it because it was played by your ex-team, which will no longer be your ex-team because they won a Cup.

I'm getting dizzy trying to follow the logic or more accurately, the lack of logic. But alas, I won't lose any sleep knowing a once proud and mildly knowledgeable Blues fan has fallen off the wagon (and apparently hit his head quite hard).

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      #256252 - 11/07/17 10:31 AM

I watch the Blouse whenever they are on......but that team can't win a cup, and that's all I care about.

Does that make it easy for you?

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I watch the Blouse whenever they are on......but that team can't win a cup, and that's all I care about.

Does that make it easy for you?

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Clear as mud...

By the way, the "blouse" thing is making you look sort of, well, dumb and uninformed. They're 4th best in the NHL, in hits (also, #1 in the NHL, for Takeaway/Giveaway ratio). In short, this team is not only much faster and better than previous Blues teams, it is pretty tough as well... Maybe, just maybe that's why they're one of the best team in the NHL so far... Just an observation.

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Maybe, we'll see.

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      #256261 - 11/07/17 07:39 PM

Clearly, this team is playing really well right now. I hope they keep it up.

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      #256263 - 11/08/17 05:53 AM

bwaaaa....I need a score card....now it's Cup or bust........dude we agree one one thing, you are no Blues fan any longer.

A weak first, a better second and then perhaps the best third of the year.

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      #256264 - 11/08/17 09:05 AM

Yeah, I want to be, but I'm really not. There are still enough guys on that team that I don't like at all....and never will. I don't care what they do.

In fact, I'd be pissed if Stastny, Steen, Berglund, and Pietrangelo get their names on the cup as Blues. Those guys are quitters in my book and always have been.

I do like Dunn, Schwartz, Schenn, and Paryako quite a bit and think they bode well for the team's future. I think the like of Tarasenko, Schwartz, and Schenn have the ability and chemistry to be the league's top line this year.

But yeah, you're right......I find it hard to be a fan of the organization anymore.

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In fact, I'd be pissed if Stastny, Steen, Berglund, and Pietrangelo get their names on the cup as Blues. Those guys are quitters in my book and always have been.




Did you used to take your ball and go home when things didn't go your way as a kid?

I can sort of see your frustration with Stastny but he has come around to exactly what they signed him for. And I feel about the same way as you about Berglund, he is a slug. But Pietro and Steen? Really? How drunk do you get when you watch hockey? Pietro has been an up and coming defenseman since he arrived and has finally developed into a Norris Trophy-caliber player. Anyone that knows anything about hockey knows it takes years to develop as a top tier defenseman in the HNL. When the fork did he ever quit on anything? And Steen had one down year last year. Every other year, including this year, he has been one of the best values on the team. In fact this year, he has been stellar!!

You are the living and breathing example of cutting off your nose to spite your face...

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      #256269 - 11/08/17 01:59 PM

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/hockey/pr...dc07e8ce39.html

This could be good.

I'm not a Petro fan.....never have been and never will be. He's Jackman without the toughness. Disappears when the play gets tough. His trade value is high enough.....get someone in the room who has actually won something. For chrissakes, his contract is nearly the same as Karlsson, Seabrooke, and Doughty.....and he's not playing their game. For that matter, go have a look at the top 20 paid defensemen and, outside of Shittinhispantskirk , find one you wouldn't take over the Blouse Captain....gimme a break. Watch what the big bad C does when Tarasenko starts getting ran in the playoffs...NOTHING.

Steen will do a disappearing act when the play gets tough in the playoffs as well (if he lasts that long).....just as always.

The team couldn't win in the playoffs with these guys.....ship them off and get some new blood on this team that has a chance to be really good.

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      #256270 - 11/08/17 05:30 PM


bwaaa....now you WANT a Russian?? Good grief.

And you hate quitters? bwaaaaaaaaaa

If you would take Seabrooke over Petro right now, you need to check your self into a psych ward. I'll throw in Keith too.

Petro, right now, is a top 10 maybe even top 5 D man in the league whether you like it or not.

And when was the last time you saw Sid Crosby beat somebody up?

You need to go full circle and root for the Blues to loose. That's what all this is really about anyway, being "right'.

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      #256272 - 11/08/17 09:02 PM

Dude....I know it's early and there's time for your boy yet....but he ain't top 5...for Petes sake....he's #4 defenseman +/- on his own team....AND HE'S ON THE PP!!

My bet is he ends up right there in the end....just before his disppearing act.

And did you just compare Pietrangeblow to Crosby as a C?

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      #256275 - 11/09/17 08:21 AM

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Dude....I know it's early and there's time for your boy yet....but he ain't top 5...for Petes sake....he's #4 defenseman +/- on his own team....AND HE'S ON THE PP!!

My bet is he ends up right there in the end....just before his disppearing act.

And did you just compare Pietrangeblow to Crosby as a C?




Dude, you are seriously butt-hurt... You are damaged...

I'm going to enjoy the ride. And when they slump, and they will slump some time this year, I'll be the first to criticize those deserving of criticism. But to pout like a 3rd grader that didn't get his way and miss out on the fun of what's going on right now is sort of insane!! Oh well, enjoy your Predators....

Oh, and let me explain to you what's happened in the NHL over the past 5-10 years. Fighting is waaaay down. Enforcers are few and far between. Players like Tarasenko are 6' 230 lbs. Most of them have learned to take care of themselves. They don't need their top defenseman and captain spending 5 mins in the box to show somebody like you how tough they are. And on the rare occasions when players need to step in to help, every player on the Blues this year has been right there, front and center. This might be the most cohesive team since I've been watching them.

If you think all but 3 or 4 GM's in the NHL wouldn't trade their top defenseman for Pietro, you are clueless. He has emerged as one of the top 5, without question. Watch the Norris Trophy voting at the end of the season. I'll bet you a set of Predators tickets for the 2018-2019 season that he finishes in the top 5, if he doesn't win it, barring injury (of course I buy you Preds tickets and you buy me Blues tickets). And in a few years Parayko will be right there too. Thanks to Doug Armstrong.

Still can't stop chuckling about the Seabrook comparison. You've posted some crazy stuff, to be sure but that one takes the cake... Seabrook ... Really? The -1 Seabrook (Pietro is +6)? The 5 point total Seabrook (Pietro has 15)? The 32 year-old Seabrook that Chicago wants to run out of town because he's not playing up to the level they expect? Yeah, go ahead and hang your hat on a defenseman that past his prime 2-3 years ago. Oh, and Karrlson is -1 as well...

Carry on Preds fan. Looking forward to the next kooky post...

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256276 - 11/09/17 09:00 AM

Where did you two goofballs get the idea I'm not enjoying this season? I think I may have missed 2 games so far. I like this version of the Blouse better than any other version in the last 3-5 years. The line of Schenn, Shwartz (been a fan since he came here), and Tarasenko is awesome. They finally have a coach who will let Bortuzzo roll. Parayko is a future all-star. Having Sobotka back was always going to be a good thing. Dunn will end up being a favorite of mine.

I don't give a rats arse about Steen, Statsny, Petro, Berglund, or Bowmiester......move them all for all I care. Each one of those houdini mofos will disappear in the playoffs like they have EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY HAVE BEEN THERE. Fork them.

And dude......I couldn't even tell you the Preds record. But I'mma have a blast in Nashville watching my kid run at Vandy (awesome indoor facility, probably the best in the NCAA) and seeing some NHL hockey in a great town.

The Blouse get no money from me until they win a cup.....PERIOD.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256277 - 11/09/17 10:23 AM

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Dude....I know it's early and there's time for your boy yet....but he ain't top 5...for Petes sake....he's #4 defenseman +/- on his own team....AND HE'S ON THE PP!!

My bet is he ends up right there in the end....just before his disppearing act.

And did you just compare Pietrangeblow to Crosby as a C?






Plus-minus huh? I guess you really like to argue.

He's 2 under Doughty and he's 8 better than Karlsson. What do you learn from that?

He has already finished top five for Norris twice. Getting the picture are you how he might be top 5 now?

He was 5th in D takeaway last year.

He was 2nd in turnover plus/minus last year for D men.

The guy effectively wins pucks and moves pucks and blocks pucks in a style you don't like. Cry me a river.

Now you say you enjoy watching a team who has a bunch of players you hate and are no longer a fan of? Enjoy them as you wait for and bet them to lose? bwaaaaaaaaaaaa you got yourself twisted up like a pretzel and lemme tell you I'm gettin dizzy trying to follow each days new message.

I'm done with this goofy chit conversation. It's a long season. You go your way I'll go mine 11th seed, 5th seed what the fork ever seed I'll b1tch and cry and cheer them on like I have the last 50 years.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256278 - 11/09/17 11:28 AM

C'mon dude.....+/- is ALL you can get out of Pietrangeblow as a marker. It ain't like Houdini will be #4 in the league in scoring, like Karlsson, or the #1 scorer in the playoffs and win a cup like Doughty, or even get close to a Norris like these two former winners.

Homer.......go watch some hockey.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256281 - 11/10/17 03:42 AM



I'm done with this goofy chit conversation. It's a long season. You go your way I'll go mine 11th seed, 5th seed what the fork ever seed I'll b1tch and cry and cheer them on like I have the last 50 years.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: fastman]
      #256282 - 11/10/17 08:50 AM

Yotes put up a good fight. Another 2 goals from the D and another great third period play saved the day with two more points on the board.

How 'bout that Hutton dude?

First time in 50 years Blues have 13 wins in first 17 games.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256287 - 11/11/17 11:55 AM

I'm glad I am at duck camp 4 days a week.....get dizzy with you three Jabronnies arguing about people and things you can't control and which I know nothing about......but as usual I stand with Last Stand !!

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      #256288 - 11/11/17 04:06 PM

Eddie and Bubba seem to know their chit!

NY tonight.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256289 - 11/12/17 06:02 AM

As a great man once said, thank God for beer.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256290 - 11/12/17 10:27 AM

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Eddie and Bubba know their chit!








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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256296 - 11/13/17 07:03 AM

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C'mon dude.....+/- is ALL you can get out of Pietrangeblow as a marker. It ain't like Houdini will be #4 in the league in scoring, like Karlsson, or the #1 scorer in the playoffs and win a cup like Doughty, or even get close to a Norris like these two former winners.

Homer.......go watch some hockey.

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Now I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you. I haven't seen a carving-up of a cafe member like this since huntoften armed himself with his stupidity and took to battle.

Wu, you might need to step in and moderate this a little. I'm starting to to fear the last stand won't let up and griffin will go the way of huntoften and Mac. The bleeding has already started and it looks like griffin won't just tap out. Down goes griffin, down goes griffin... Down goes griffin

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256298 - 11/13/17 09:44 AM

I haven't carved any body up.

He took the knife and did it to himself.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I'm done with it anyway.

But I am getting the popcorn ready, just waiting for a Blues swoon reaction.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256299 - 11/13/17 09:46 AM

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C'mon dude.....+/- is ALL you can get out of Pietrangeblow as a marker. It ain't like Houdini will be #4 in the league in scoring, like Karlsson, or the #1 scorer in the playoffs and win a cup like Doughty, or even get close to a Norris like these two former winners.

Homer.......go watch some hockey.

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Now I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you. I haven't seen a carving-up of a cafe member like this since huntoften armed himself with his stupidity and took to battle.

Wu, you might need to step in and moderate this a little. I'm starting to to fear the last stand won't let up and griffin will go the way of huntoften and Mac. The bleeding has already started and it looks like griffin won't just tap out. Down goes griffin, down goes griffin... Down goes griffin

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Yeah, I don't know how much more I can take either.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256300 - 11/14/17 05:43 AM

Some sloppy, uninspired play here lately going back to the Arizona game. Too many names to mention.

Very clear we need a top six winger and I can make the case it's actually two.

And Jake Allen is slowly moving back into his old shell.

This team has to be at 95-100% effort to win and they are not doing that.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256321 - 11/19/17 07:12 AM

Petro: Nice takeaway on the game tying goal.

Schenn: "Guys are stepping up"

Huge home stand coming up but heck....It's a good time to be a Blues fan.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256322 - 11/20/17 10:04 AM

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Petro: Nice takeaway on the game tying goal.

Schenn: "Guys are stepping up"

Huge home stand coming up but heck....It's a good time to be a Blues fan.




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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256329 - 11/21/17 09:54 AM

Good article on HNL.com.

Pietrangelo leading Norris Trophy race

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256334 - 11/21/17 10:55 PM

Schenn, Schwartz, and Tarasenko are unconscious right now.

How in the MOTHER FORK does Bouwmeester knock Gunnarsson out of the lineup? Stupid as hell.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256336 - 11/22/17 06:06 AM

That was an ass kicking. Not a particularly good opponent to set them up for your team coming in, but an ass kicking none the less. And fork the Preds.

Jbo is a problem. Yeo and Army need to get past the contract and do what's best for this team. Got caught already pinching last night and cost a goal, thing is what is he pinching for he is not a good threat anyway.

The Oilers, right now, are a mess. My god they have forked that whole thing up there in Alberta.

How about Senko dropping his gloves after he hunted Benning down. Pretty dang cool.

Big division test this weekend. Go Blue!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256337 - 11/22/17 07:09 AM

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How about Senko dropping his gloves after he hunted Benning down. Pretty dang cool.




How about a Gordie Howe hat-trick for Tarasenko?

Schenn is proving to be quite the acquisition and it is even more sweet when you consider they were able to dump Lehtera when they acquired him. That is GM'ing at its finest...

Not going to worry to much about the Bouwmeester situation for a few weeks. Hopefully, it will work itself out.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256352 - 11/25/17 07:20 AM

Welp, the Nashville game exposed two of the Blues biggest issues. #1 - Slow starts and sloppy 1st periods. #2 - An anemic power play. Hard to imagine having that much talent on your #1 and #2 lines, as well as top scoring defensemen, and not being able to have a decent power play. As much as I like this coaching staff, this in primarily on them. Whatever system they're trying to employ is not a good fit for this group of players. And it appears their ability to recognize situations and adjust is very limited, when it comes to the power play. The good news is they can fix it. The talent and effort are there. They just need a better game plan for the power play.

As far as the 1st periods go, that is mostly on the players. They need to show up ready to play. And I'll even go a step further and put more of that on the Captain and Alternate Captains.

If it weren't for Hutton last night, the Blues could have trailed 3 or 4 -0 after that 1st period. That was some uninspired, sloppy hockey...

Hopefully, they clean it up tonight against the Wild. They need a strong start...

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256353 - 11/25/17 12:48 PM

Blues have short memory as they went back to dumping the puck right into Rhinne's hands time and time again. And Rhinne knows what to do with that puck when he gets it.

I was there, they were out of sync all night. Schenn missed multiple good chances alone.

Blues are in first with a weak pp, weak pk and a middle of the road goalie. If they can fix these things, even marginally, we will see a good Blues team in April. I don't care about winning the division either.

If Rhinne goes off his game or gets hurt, Preds will be in trouble. Hutton played a good game, I like him as #2 and it's quite possible he will be asked to do more as we move through the season.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256355 - 11/26/17 08:32 AM

Looks like they read my post and fixed both the slow start and the power play issues...

Solid effort by the boyz. An exclamation point added with the rock-'em-sock-'em, marathon fight by Thorburn and Stewart (the ending was comical with both unable to throw a punch hard enough to break and egg). That scrap reminded me of some of the old Brian Sutter / Terry Ruskowski battles, back in the day. Good old time hockey there...

Hard to ask much more of this team. Effort is there every game and when they fail to execute, they seem to come right back, the next game and get their chit together.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256360 - 11/26/17 05:12 PM

Yeo at least reacts to issues.

Sammy Blaes on the PP and getting Steen off the PP point helped a lot.

Now he needs to get off the Jbo solution. He is NOT a solution. We were a first place roster without him, no need to force that contract down our throats. Find a way to deal with this guy, any way, and get back to the the guys who brung you to the dance.

Blues will need a 20 goal guy for 2nd line wing. Tricky to do .....still think it's down under....just don't fork it up....but sooner the better, imo.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256362 - 11/26/17 06:05 PM

Bought tickets last night to see the Blouse play the Blue Jackets......3/24 in Columbus!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256363 - 11/27/17 07:39 AM

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Bought tickets last night to see the Blouse play the Blue Jackets......3/24 in Columbus!

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And the Blues thank you for your financial contribution to their organization, regardless of whatever fantasy you are harboring that they don't get any of that money...

How much do they get for a Blue Jacket replica jersey anyway....

Man, did you pick a bad year to go on your little pout-fest...

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256364 - 11/27/17 07:55 AM

Dude, I'm enjoying the hell out of it. Great season so far.

Nope, they get no parking money, and most importantly, no concessions from me. I drink more beer than the price of a ticket at a game.

Of course they get their "shared revenue".....but we both know it's a fraction of what I'll spend in another city.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256366 - 11/28/17 12:50 PM

Help is on the way, boys!

Berglund returns to the Blouse lineup on Wed.

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      #256368 - 11/29/17 10:47 AM

Berglund is back now too! Him and Boymister! Aren't you guys excited! (Please note excessive sarcasm)

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      #256370 - 11/29/17 08:24 PM

I gotta say.......it's kind of amazing. Berglund has been out for almost 7 months and his game hasn't missed a beat.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256371 - 11/30/17 05:42 AM

He is the anchor that will slow this fast moving ship down... You never want to wish and injury on anyone but maybe a trade? A call to the religious life? Something, anything...

Perhaps it wouldn't bother me so much if I didn't have to listen to otherwise, seemingly intelligent hockey announcers, media, etc. praise him like we can't trust our own eyes and need them to tell us how good he really is. I get the Coach doing it. He and his staff sort of have to. But why, pray tell, do guys like Pang and Kelly and even Chase heap so much praise on this slug? I can read box scores and stat sheets. I can watch games and see how he doesn't go into the dirty areas as much as others and when he does, he isn't nearly as strong on the puck as guys with much less size. He's 6'-4" 225 for pete's sake!!! He should own the boards, the corners and the front of the net. He's a puss that give 100% about half the time he's on the ice.

Now watch, he'll have a good game or two mixed in with the 6 or 8 bad ones. Last night was an embarrassment and all we got was excuses about him getting his legs and timing back. How about doing that in the forking AHL or in the Brentwood rec league. Not at the NHL level where it can cost games, like it did last night. No, that loss was not 100% on him but he sure gets to claim a large part of it...

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256372 - 11/30/17 05:59 AM

2 penalties on him and two goals scored on us with that amazing performance.

Apparently, if a team is pissed off enough, they can come into the game and win it rather handily from the more and more often unprepared Blues.

I get we're not gonna win every game but man do we lose ugly. Getting to be a pattern.

This team needs a top 6 guy who can threaten to score and get Sobi where he belongs, on the third line. When that happens with the right guy the team will be set and the rest is up to them.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256373 - 11/30/17 07:30 AM

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Apparently, if a team is pissed off enough, they can come into the game and win it rather handily from the more and more often unprepared Blues.

I get we're not gonna win every game but man do we lose ugly. Getting to be a pattern.





I'm not going to beat you up with re-hashing my problems with this team's heart and why I don't think they're going anywhere, regular season record be damned.

If you look at the 4 home games they have lost, for certain 3 of them were against teams that they should easily have gotten 2 points against. But the lesser teams come into the Blues building, coming off of embarrassing defeats, lookiung to make a statement against "the best team in the league" (record wise), and push the Blouse around. That's a persistent problem for this team and it speaks to the heart of the team. This problem will look bigger when the playoffs roll around if they don't get it fixed.

As for #21......I agree with Andy. What in the hell does he have on the announcers and even some teammates that makes them sing his praise. He's a joke out there.

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      #256374 - 11/30/17 08:17 AM

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I gotta say.......it's kind of amazing. Berglund has been out for almost 7 months and his game hasn't missed a beat.
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      #256375 - 11/30/17 08:22 AM

Yeo is trying everything to make it work - to the detriment of the team. If my eyes didn't deceive me, at one point I saw "The Swedish Slug" out there with Tarasenko and Schwartz. WTF would you do that and mess with that line?

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Yeo is trying everything to make it work - to the detriment of the team. If my eyes didn't deceive me, at one point I saw "The Swedish Slug" out there with Tarasenko and Schwartz. WTF would you do that and mess with that line?




#21 had just gotten out of the penalty box, and the play went into the offensive zone so he went with it. He got off when the puck went the other way.

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Apparently, if a team is pissed off enough, they can come into the game and win it rather handily from the more and more often unprepared Blues.

I get we're not gonna win every game but man do we lose ugly. Getting to be a pattern.





I'm not going to beat you up with re-hashing my problems with this team's heart and why I don't think they're going anywhere, regular season record be damned.

If you look at the 4 home games they have lost, for certain 3 of them were against teams that they should easily have gotten 2 points against. But the lesser teams come into the Blues building, coming off of embarrassing defeats, lookiung to make a statement against "the best team in the league" (record wise), and push the Blouse around. That's a persistent problem for this team and it speaks to the heart of the team. This problem will look bigger when the playoffs roll around if they don't get it fixed.

As for #21......I agree with Andy. What in the hell does he have on the announcers and even some teammates that makes them sing his praise. He's a joke out there.

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Beat me up?
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

They have, TO DATE, showed plenty of heart this year. You're as stubborn as they come.

Yes, AS I POINTED OUT, they have fallen off their game completely in 3 games of the 8 they have lost. That's 3 of the 25 they have played. Context, please. Name any other team TO DATE that has done better, in that regard. And they have done all this TO DATE without a decent PP, PK or goalie. It's not magic, it's a top scoring line and then a team with a lot of heart.

Your not a fan, I am, I get that. TO DATE this team has proven you dead wrong and plain surprised the heck out of me.

As for the rest of the season, sure, it could turn and then you can say samo samo. I say they need a top six guy and some improvement on ST's and better tending, and this team can roll well past what I originally thought.

We'll see soon enough.

I am anxious to see how Yeo handles this team and its roster and its ups and downs going forward. he needs to make some decisions that are best for the team and he better do it if he wants to truly chase this thing down.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256378 - 11/30/17 12:07 PM

pffffft....their losses are to mostly back of pack teams. How many NHL teams do y9ou want me to show you that DON'T lose to those teams???

THIS TEAM, AS IT SITS, CANNOT GO DEEP IN THE PLAYOFFS.....NOTHING ELSE MATTERS!!!!

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pffffft....their losses are to mostly back of pack teams. How many NHL teams do y9ou want me to show you that DON'T lose to those teams???





Yes, show me dude.

In the meantime I'll show you 2 others who do.

Average of record:

1) Best team in the NHL
Tampa Bay/opposing team record
12.8 W 8.7 loss 2.2 Loss in OT

2) Your own fav, the bandwagon team with the ugly jerseys:
Nashville/opposing team record
12.3 W 8.7 loss 2.7 Lost in OT

3) STL BLUES/opp team record
12.8 W 7.5 loss 2.4 loss in OT

If your having trouble I'll help you out. Blues lost to stronger teams, teams with better records, than the best team in the nhl and the team that is the darling of the league and the worlds bestest hockey club.

I know Blues winning it's been a tough start for you 'n all and you're anxious for the big swoon so we can all hear about how right you are a few hundred more times but you need to settle down and cool your jets for now.....timing is everything.

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THIS TEAM, AS IT SITS, CANNOT GO DEEP IN THE PLAYOFFS.....NOTHING ELSE MATTERS!!!!




If that's really it....and you are not a fan......wtf....go to Columbus or Nashville or whatever the latest plan is but why the hell hang with them? Not a fan, no heart, not tough enough......so......are you just stupid?

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      #256381 - 11/30/17 05:34 PM

Yeah, it finally occurred to me that over the last decade or so, when I should have finally known better, that I WAS stupid for supporting that team. I'm still a fan, I just won't support them.

Now, I just enjoy watching you be stupid.

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Yeah, it finally occurred to me that over the last decade or so, when I should have finally known better, that I WAS stupid for supporting that team.
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Sorry but.......I need to pause right now and just let this soak in for awhile. Kind of like a good rain.


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      #256385 - 12/01/17 10:12 PM

Don't look now!!!

The Blouse is 5-5 in it's last 10......the worst record of any of the top 17 teams in the NHL.

Or, for you big fans.....only 7 teams in the NHL have less points to show for their last 10.

There is no joy in Blueville.....their heart is 2 sizes too small.

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      #256387 - 12/02/17 07:04 AM

No joy? You seem happy......and I hear you are still a fan. bwaaaaaaaa


Thought you might want to look into this, just trying to help a Blues brother out, being stupid 'n all.

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Oh yeah, it's one way.

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      #256389 - 12/02/17 11:45 AM

Back from camp again and you two jabronies are STILL going in circles...Wert der ferk? I recommend getting into a marsh near you.

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6 day trip starting next Thursday....nice to finally get some weather

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Berglund is on the #1 power play.

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Well....if it is a trip where you are roughing it you will at least be able to take the batteries out of your spinners at night to put in your radio and listen to the Blues


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6 day trip starting next Thursday....nice to finally get some weather




Well....if it is a trip where you are roughing it you will at least be able to take the batteries out of your spinners at night to put in your radio and listen to the Blues




See, that's what I'm talking about....I'm a fan bro!

Hey, did you happen to see if they won tonight? You know, a lot of times a team with some heart will come back from a home loss, come into your building the next night, and take one from you, like has happened to the Blouse 3 times already.

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      #256396 - 12/04/17 05:14 PM

bwaaaaa...........big fan indeed.

Hop on that Pred wagon dude. Shiny town! Or is it Columbus now? Hey...it might be the Jets......better stay on it.

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      #256397 - 12/04/17 07:17 PM

Going quail hunting in Tx. again the first week of Feb....may see if I can catch a Stars game while I'm there. They were kind of fun to watch the other night.

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      #256398 - 12/04/17 07:25 PM

LS - did you notice that #21 was the leading goal scorer for the Blouse the last 2 games? It looks like the line changes Yeo made may be paying off.

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      #256401 - 12/06/17 02:39 PM

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Going quail hunting in Tx. again the first week of Feb....may see if I can catch a Stars game while I'm there. They were kind of fun to watch the other night.

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I watched them get run over last night.

You may want to re-think your return if you go see them.

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      #256402 - 12/06/17 02:44 PM

I'm more concerned about #19 and who sits for him and right now whatever number Jake Allen is.

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      #256405 - 12/10/17 07:31 AM

Talk about a heartless team = Detroit! They definitely gave up yesterday. And worse for them is they have the OLDEST average age in the NHL. Long term contracts are killing them. An example of paying for what players used to be.

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      #256406 - 12/11/17 02:31 PM

Blues lost one of their best hottest players for at least 6 weeks.

That's two top forwards gone for a team who needs help up front. Schwartz was playing unreal hockey, massive hole left behind.

And Petro, the guy almost as good as Brent Seabrooke, he's out day to to day as the Blues hit their hardest stretch of games the whole year.

If they can bank 4 of the next 8 points I'd take that right now.

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      #256410 - 12/12/17 09:09 AM

Petro to the IR.

This team is snake bit and faces the best in the league tonight.

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      #256413 - 12/12/17 10:55 AM

Now Jbo is out tonight too.

Bubba....now wtf are the Blues to do????

2 rookies to be paired.....hell Yeo will be mixing and matching all night against the high flying #1 line in hockey.

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      #256415 - 12/12/17 02:25 PM

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      #256416 - 12/13/17 06:20 AM

That looked like a high school team playing a college team.

They're trying really hard to play up, but there is no way the Blues could play with that team over a 7 game series....they could win 1 game, maybe 2.

And it doesn't matter who is or isn't in the lineup.....the Blues are not yet a Stanley Cup contender.

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      #256434 - 12/15/17 07:50 AM

You know, it's good to see guys like Steen, Statzny, and Berglund, the real nucleus and heart of this team, step up in Schwartz's and Petrangelo's absence. That 1 goal in the last 6 periods of hockey is a strong showing and bodes well for the playoffs.



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      #256437 - 12/15/17 04:16 PM

Step up for Petro's absence? You change your mind again?

Nobody's stepping up to score right now.

If I'm Yeo, I'd put the fourth line on the #1 PP.

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      #256441 - 12/16/17 01:30 PM

If I didn't go ahead and mention Putrid I'd have to listen to how he is the heart and soul of the team and since he's missing they can't possibly score.

He may truly be the greatest defenseman in the league.....the offense can't even score without his defense.

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      #256443 - 12/17/17 07:12 AM

bwaaaaaa........right.

So ate up. Still so stupid. Sad sad sad.

Blues matched their best game against Tampa but remembered the goal tend and scoring thingy things last night for the W.

Banged up team right now in the middle of a brutal month. Hope Allen was watching last night, that's a big part of winning hockey games.

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Hope Allen was watching last night, that's a big part of winning hockey games.




Wrong again.....you better hope Yeo was watching....or they'll both be watching in June....like always.

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      #256447 - 12/17/17 07:25 PM

Two teams played in the same place last night and I'd have to guess had similar travel plans. The difference in the energy and work between those two teams today was eye opening. What was more eye opening is that no player on the Blues stood up for another Blues player while it mattered. Allen got run several times. Then there was the knee to knee shot on Pietroangelo. One of the Jets went head hunting on either Jaskin or Sobotka and not once did a Blues player do anything in retaliation. Look for more and more teams to do the same thing.

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Two teams played in the same place last night and I'd have to guess had similar travel plans. The difference in the energy and work between those two teams today was eye opening. What was more eye opening is that no player on the Blues stood up for another Blues player while it mattered. Allen got run several times. Then there was the knee to knee shot on Pietroangelo. One of the Jets went head hunting on either Jaskin or Sobotka and not once did a Blues player do anything in retaliation. Look for more and more teams to do the same thing.




That behavior has defined the Blouse for the last several seasons. This team has major character issues.....always has under the current team "leadership". They will never even sniff a Stanley Cup.

1 even strength goal in the last 4 games. I have no idea what you are bwaaahahah-ing about LS....that team is in trouble.

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      #256449 - 12/18/17 05:22 AM

What trouble?

Goal tending? Lack of scoring? Stone cold hands? Key players out? 16 games in 30 days with 5 back to backs mixed in between? Crappy power play? Players forced into lines where they don't belong? Face offs? You don't listen well, do you?

You guys want to b1tch and moan all season it ain't a Cup year have at it. The day I see a Cup team in October in Saint Louis I'll give ya'll a holler. The no - heart thing is BS this team is lacking in some skill positions same as always and right now a ton of hurt players on top of it. For Christs sake Schwartz alone is impossible to overcome. #2 and #3 of top six are not on the ice. Or is it #1?

Figure it out. All this "no heart" and they sit at 46 points. Gee I wish they had heart. The team that was supposed to fall on its face remember? I don't hear any of the whining after any of those points either.

Hey...it ain't a Cup team. We good now? So go find a Cup team, stick with that team, and stfu and watch your perfect hockey.

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      #256450 - 12/18/17 09:07 AM

Don't get me wrong - I'm still cheering for them. I've been a Note fan since the beginning. I don't see this team going rather than the first round however. I hope to hell I'm wrong. But what bothers me is that I don't see them standing up for one another. Watch the Kings, the Hawks, the Pens.. and somebody goes knee to knee with your captain (or anyone for that matter) and other players on the ice will be charging after that player. Same goes if an opposing player pushes your goalie back into his net. And if some one goes high and hits a teammate in the head with an elbow, you can count on it. All three of those things happened last night and not once did a Blues player jump that person. Ran their mouth but nothing else. That makes me worry about their guts and how strong the team mentality is with them.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: IIFID]
      #256454 - 12/18/17 10:57 PM

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All three of those things happened last night and not once did a Blues player jump that person. Ran their mouth but nothing else.




Well.....you obviously weren't watching espn-parkinglot.com

After the game, while the teams were on their way to their busses, Steen charged Kulikov and looked like he was going to kill him right before he grabbed his knee and fell down. THEN....Statzny ran up behind Laine, flicked him in the back of the head, and ran off yelling nana-nana-boo-boo. But the highlight was when Berglund walked right up to Scheifele and swung his purse from way back behind his head to damn near knock him out.

No......this team DOES have heart......I saw it after the game.

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      #256455 - 12/19/17 06:16 AM

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Don't get me wrong - I'm still cheering for them. I've been a Note fan since the beginning. I don't see this team going rather than the first round however. I hope to hell I'm wrong. But what bothers me is that I don't see them standing up for one another. Watch the Kings, the Hawks, the Pens.. and somebody goes knee to knee with your captain (or anyone for that matter) and other players on the ice will be charging after that player. Same goes if an opposing player pushes your goalie back into his net. And if some one goes high and hits a teammate in the head with an elbow, you can count on it. All three of those things happened last night and not once did a Blues player jump that person. Ran their mouth but nothing else. That makes me worry about their guts and how strong the team mentality is with them.






I don't even know if this team MAKES the play offs. But it has nothing to do with heart or gutless play.

The top teams in the league aren't running around taking penalties to prove chit they are too busy making hits, moving the puck, scoring goals and having GREAT goal tending. Winning games.

Blues team play and standing together has zero to do with how this team is going to do. There's plenty of other problems right now, this ain't one of them.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256456 - 12/19/17 10:02 AM

I have found people that don't know much about hockey and aren't really capable of intelligent analysis always fall back on the "heart" and "character" arguments. If you have been watching this team and know anything about hockey, you would be a fool to question the effort of this team to this point. They may have played 2 or 3 games where the effort looked less than 100% (Sunday night was one of them).

For what they have endured injury-wise, their record is impressive. And for what this roster is lacking, even before the injuries, the record is that much more impressive. A few players are not playing well right now. It happens. And those players need to step it up and get back on track. The problem with calling them heartless and such is that fans have no idea what injuries may be hampering a player. For obvious reasons, NHL teams guard injury information closer than the codes to the nuclear arsenal. Only this season did we learn that Steen was playing hurt most of last year. Now that he is healthy again, he is a force on this team. And if you can't see his effort/heart/character you are watching different games than me... I'll take the effort this team puts forth 9 time out of 10.

One thing can't be denied. This team was a better team without Berglund than with him... I'm still bitter about that signing.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256462 - 12/20/17 10:58 PM

OK, if you want to say I don't know anything about hockey I'll laugh and play along......

BUT, I did have 2 years of calculus and I understand math better than most folks. Now, just like in school when you wanted to cheat off my test, I'm going to give you the answer but I'm not going to show you my work.....

The Blouse have played 36 games and have 12 losses.....compare and contrast to the rest of the league and then figure out where your beloved fall in the true standings.

Hint: (I used to love when the profs did this) During the last 10 games the Blouse is tied for 14th in the league out of 28 teams.

Remember, show your work.

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      #256464 - 12/21/17 05:55 PM

Stop ing!

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      #256465 - 12/21/17 09:34 PM

1+1 = 1+1 x 50 seconds + 1 = Mr. Hyde makes an appearance tomorrow.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: dabs]
      #256466 - 12/21/17 10:20 PM

Look, we don't accept late work in this class, so LS takes an F on his first assignment. It's unfortunate, but the winter session is a short one before the next semester starts so I would like to offer some extra credit before the next assignment is due.

For 10 pts. of XC..... the Blouse is -11 in their last 6 games.....where does that rank in the league during that span of games?

Hint: There are 29 teams in the league. ing!!!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256467 - 12/22/17 07:34 AM

Can't help you bro, always hated math. But I do have a story to tell.

My grade school best friend, come about 5th grade or so, he made his stand. He told his teacher there was no return in learning math. He told her her numbers had no heart, and certainly not tough enough for him. He told her math there was going to go down in an epic fail and no way was he going to listen to her any more. He told her Principal Armstrong was a very bad principal and he never should have hired her or any of the other teachers at his school.

So he got on his bike and he left his family and friends and pedaled to Nashville. Everyone there was friendly and nice. Lots of music too. They had beautiful bright mustard yellow school uniforms that were so cool. They didn't know math from a turd but man somehow it just all seemed right for him in Nashville, bright, shiny....a monster band wagon in the middle of the town square... they had it goin on. Everyone in the world loved Nashville, and so did he. It was a great return on his time and effort.

So as great as all that is, I called him for some help with your equation but.....he told me he couldn't help, he said he never learned chit in Nashville. He told me he's been stupid all those years there but even extra stupid the last 10.

I felt sorry for him. I wanted to help. But thinking about it I realized there was not much I could do.

You can't fix stupid.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256468 - 12/22/17 07:38 AM

Worst loss of the year last night. They finally get 2 goals so what happens? The D lets them down.

Will this team rise again? As a Blues fan, there's only one answer for that.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256469 - 12/22/17 07:53 AM

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Will this team rise again? As a Blues fan, there's only one answer for that.




The answer is a resounding YES!! They will rise to a first or second round playoff exit and be golfing in May.

Sorry, not good enough anymore.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256471 - 12/23/17 07:14 AM

Again, this team isn't guaranteed anything. Nothing.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256472 - 12/23/17 03:54 PM

Yes, they are guaranteed to be watching the Stanley Cup Finals from home.....just like always.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256486 - 12/27/17 11:47 AM

The signing of a 4 year contract extension for Armstrong must have Griffin dayum near beside hisself with excitement... Or would that be Last Stand..or sptsman???

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      #256488 - 12/28/17 06:14 AM

I'm having a hard enough time watching my team not score.

There was no indication whatsoever beyond their intention to extend the guy. He squeaked out with the Schenn deal, imo.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256490 - 12/28/17 06:53 AM

14 losses........that's the REAL stat to be looking at in the standings in the era of 2 pts. for an OT win and 1 for a loss.

The Blouse is barely clinging to a playoff spot despite their inflated place in the standings due to more games played.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256492 - 12/28/17 01:13 PM

Bwaaaaaaaaa.......the "extra games" all came in one month and then some over other teams, hardly some advantage. Currently top ranked "injured" team, 4th in league overall. I'm sure that doesn't matter either.

They played a top 5 team last night and did everything but score. Plenty of chances. They did all the hard part. "Heart" has zero to do with it. They can't score and haven't scored since Schwartz went down, throwing the whole team out of whack. Tarasenko has scored 1 ES goal in the last 6 weeks.

It's Blues hockey dude. This is why you left them. I mean, this is why you said you left them. Or were going to leave them.

You seem mighty interested for someone not interested. No return, but you watch and post. No interest, but you watch and post. Not good enough, but you watch and post. Huh.

51 years and you can't walk away. All the get off my lawn yap but here you are still talkin Blues hockey.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256495 - 12/28/17 07:57 PM

One more time you bonehead....I got rid of my seats and my support, not my TV. I'm a hockey fan, I'll watch it all....but I won't support 50 years of mediocrity any longer. If you want to hang your "this team has heart" hat on the fact that losing one player causes them to tank....well alrughty then.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256496 - 12/29/17 09:17 AM

And for the record, LS, they are 8th in the league.....and in the last 10 games, more that 25% of the season so far, they are 24th of 31 teams.

You're becoming delusional in your fanboy role.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256499 - 12/29/17 10:14 AM

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      #256500 - 12/29/17 10:20 AM

Delusional? I like the Blues. Win or lose. Good or bad. I will never turn on them.

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      #256501 - 12/29/17 11:38 AM

The first time I saw the Preds this year was when they beat the Blouse. I suppose I'll go see one of their games in January when I'm down at Vandy watching the boy run. Then I still plan to see a game in Columbus.....and REALLY can't wait for a team in Seattle since I'll have a daughter in college there.

I've still got plenty of money to spend on hockey.....but no way I support the Blouse with any of it.....they've gotten enough of it.

Win a cup and I'll reconsider.....and don't worry, I won't jump on the train if they ever do with the "I've been with them the whole way" routine.....I'll just get back on at the next stop. Until then......pffffft.....the team is just kind of a joke.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256503 - 12/29/17 09:55 PM

You've got to look at losses with the disparity in games played.....the standings mean nothing until all teams have played the same amount of games.

By losses, the Blouse is 18th in the league (29th in the last 10 games!!!) and on the bubble for a wild card spot in the West.

The shine is off......this team is settling in right where they belong....right where they always are. Good thing they gave Armstrong another 4 years.....where would they be without him????

Maybe a leader will "step up", huh?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256504 - 12/30/17 06:47 AM

"Win a Cup and I'll reconsider"

bwaaaaaaaaaaa

Dude, they don't need you now and sure the fork won't when or if they ever do win a Cup.

But for the umpteenth time, you go your way, I'll go mine.

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      #256505 - 12/30/17 09:06 AM

Sure they do. They need every butt in a seat they can get. This is a small market. The problem is, like Cub fans, fans of the Blouse keep showing up for a mediocre product year after year. It needs to stop. A loyal fan base, for over 50 years, deserves better than the team that is put on the ice year after year......and this particular version is worse than most.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256506 - 12/31/17 07:11 AM

No, they don't. Team value nearly doubled in a years time. And the last fan they want is the one who would reconsider things if they win a cup. Good forkin grief.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256507 - 12/31/17 10:41 AM

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Sure they do. They need every butt in a seat they can get. This is a small market. The problem is, like Cub fans, fans of the Blouse keep showing up for a mediocre product year after year. It needs to stop. A loyal fan base, for over 50 years, deserves better than the team that is put on the ice year after year......and this particular version is worse than most.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256508 - 12/31/17 12:28 PM

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No, they don't. Team value nearly doubled in a years time.




No.....not true, like most of the boooolchit you throw out:

"The Blues saw their annual valuation by Forbes climb from $270 million in 2015 to $310 million this year, a 14.8 percent bump to No. 23 out of NHL's 30 teams. The Blues have seen their valuation grow steadily over the last five years — in 2012, the Blues were valued at just $130 million.Dec 1, 2016"

I guess now you're going to tell me the value is $620 million??? (it's not BTW.....it's 450 mil)

This is just another reason to stop supporting the Blouse....where else can you put a mediocre product out for 50 years and gain value???

Much of that value gain the last 2 years has NOTHING to do with the team being a better product, it's just that the Rams leaving left entertainment money sitting for the Blouse to snatch up. There is no reason to believe they will spend any of it to improve the team.

Dude - the best player on the team right now is Berglund.

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      #256509 - 12/31/17 12:40 PM

Here's another question to ponder while waiting for the value of the team to double in 2 weeks.

Will the Blouse stay with the goalie with the highest save percentage in hockey, or continue to ride the Allen head case roller coaster all the way to the first tee in April?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256515 - 01/01/18 07:00 AM

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No, they don't. Team value nearly doubled in a years time.




No.....not true, like most of the boooolchit you throw out:

"The Blues saw their annual valuation by Forbes climb from $270 million in 2015 to $310 million this year, a 14.8 percent bump to No. 23 out of NHL's 30 teams. The Blues have seen their valuation grow steadily over the last five years — in 2012, the Blues were valued at just $130 million.Dec 1, 2016"

I guess now you're going to tell me the value is $620 million??? (it's not BTW.....it's 450 mil)

This is just another reason to stop supporting the Blouse....where else can you put a mediocre product out for 50 years and gain value???

Much of that value gain the last 2 years has NOTHING to do with the team being a better product, it's just that the Rams leaving left entertainment money sitting for the Blouse to snatch up. There is no reason to believe they will spend any of it to improve the team.

Dude - the best player on the team right now is Berglund.




1)And at $450 million value, they don't need you. You forgot that part.

2)Toronto, historically bad over the past 12 years tanking, has gained value quite nicely. Of course, they have rabid fans that stick.

3)The Blues spend to the cap, one of the small market teams that does so. Sorry, they do spend the money for players. They do need to put more money into their farm system. The current arrangement is hokey.

I know all their woes dude, all there propensities, all their history. I can criticize with the best of them. And I didn't predict a cup, or a division title, or anything for that matter.

They play Tuesday and here's to a win. Pretty simple. Same as it always was.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256516 - 01/01/18 07:08 AM

We'll see what Yeo does and how he goes. He really blew it Friday night putting him back in.

I guess Pekka is doin good huh? You should give us reports on your new team and how your return is going with all those great fans down there.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256523 - 01/02/18 06:10 AM

I haven't really looked at, or followed, how Rinne is doing.....but yeah, without looking, you can win a cup with him. You can't win a cup with Allen.

And dude.....if you are going to defend Blouse management spending to the cap to get (and never be able to get rid of) players like Berglund, Statzny, Bouwmeester, etc.......then I don't think we can even have that discussion.......there's 20 million in boat anchors right there.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256524 - 01/02/18 09:06 AM

Again, confused. I said they spend close to the cap, with room for a deadline move. They spend for players. I did not comment on HOW/WHO they spend it on and no, for the 100th time, I don't like a number of the contracts on this team.

Go find your perfect SC team....bwaaaaaa.... or maybe what's better for you is to keep b1tchin about your old team. Have at it either way.

For me, It's always gonna be Blue. I know all the warts, all the flaws, all the mistakes so you can save your breadth. Good, bad, whatever, It's gonna be Blue.

I think you and I are settled. I am anyway.

To my Blue brothers....tonights a big one.......give Hut another shot.... change up that pathetic PP... and find the back of the net!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256525 - 01/02/18 11:11 AM

It's not about a perfect SC team.....IT'S ABOUT GOING ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS TO ACTUALLY WIN A CUP.

The Blouse have NEVER even been in contention. And don't pretend there has never been a team built to win the cup.....that's just preposterous.

BUT NOT THE BLOUSE. They don't need to worry about winning the Cup....they have you and people like you.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256526 - 01/02/18 11:13 AM

And dude.....THIS is what you wrote.

"3)The Blues spend to the cap, one of the small market teams that does so. Sorry, they do spend the money for players."

Again, if you are using that as a defense of management.....then I don'[t even know where to start.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256532 - 01/02/18 09:50 PM

When you lose the one player keeping the team afloat with scoring.......you hope Someone else steps up to the plate to be a leader and take charge. Someone with say some Heart...........kinda hard to do when the rest of the bench is on life support with what seems to be no heart, no passion, and no damn desire to win.

Spending $20 million on old shitty half washed up players and then praising management for spending up to the cap.........ya that’s some stupid thinking on both sides. A player is worth what someone is willing to pay, and a fool and his money always parts ways.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: H2ODOG]
      #256535 - 01/03/18 06:26 AM

Oh no...the twins are back. bwaaaaaaaaaaa

Both of you need reading comp help. Jesus.

But I am settled. Just in time too.

Have some fun and B1tch away boys!

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      #256536 - 01/03/18 06:27 AM

Hut steals the game!

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      #256537 - 01/03/18 07:14 AM

Back to back wins and back to back games with 3 goals for the first time in nearly 2 weeks.

Dammit. Break out the Blues Stanley cup gear.

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      #256561 - 01/05/18 06:21 AM

Hellofa game last night! Best since Nashville.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256568 - 01/06/18 09:41 PM

Hellofa game toda........oh, sorry.

Allen is done.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256570 - 01/07/18 11:15 PM

Remember the real standings......only 4 teams in the West have more losses than the Blouse, and every team has 2-4 games in hand.

This ain't gonna end well.

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      #256576 - 01/09/18 09:32 PM



Geez.........keep playing Allen. 1-9 in his last 10 games.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256577 - 01/10/18 06:04 AM

WTF is Yeo thinking?

Worst decision of his tenure. Back to baby sitting.

No way this team will win if they can't play the 200' feet as a unit. They don't need to rest for a week they need to think for a week.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256578 - 01/10/18 07:34 AM

Yeo better wake the fork up. I don't know if you've crunched the numbers, but if the Blues sat idle and waited for the rest of the league to catch up to their 46 games played, and the rest of the teams won/lost record for for those games in hand match their percentage so far this year.......the Blues are on the bubble for a wild card spot......forget a division playoff spot.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256586 - 01/11/18 07:15 AM

Army is probably influencing his moves but no excuse for it.

Decisions on Allen, Jbo staying on top line, allowing Tarasenko and others to keep their position/toi on the club without 100% effort all falls on Yeo. Truth is when Dunn comes back Jbo should sit. Ain't gonna happen.

And that same forking power play nonsense over and over.

That decision to start Allen Tuesday was totally deflating. Yeo can read the standings and games and see where this division is going but Yeo ain't where he needs to be, that's clear to me.

It's Blues hockey, good thing you've left them.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256592 - 01/11/18 12:01 PM

PD said Blues were "lackadaisical"

lack·a·dai·si·cal

adjective

lacking enthusiasm and determination; carelessly lazy.

"a lackadaisical defense left the Spurs adrift in the second half"

synonyms:lethargic, apathetic, listless, sluggish, spiritless, passionless; careless, lazy, lax, unenthusiastic, halfhearted, lukewarm, indifferent, unconcerned, casual, offhand, blasé, insouciant, relaxed; informal laid-back, easygoing, couldn't-care-less
"I was lackadaisical about my training"

Must be the Post Dispatch way of saying they have NO heart???

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: wuchang]
      #256593 - 01/11/18 04:26 PM

This team, as it sits, with the current player "leadership" will NEVER win anything. Been saying it all year and will continue until the likes of Statzny, Steen, Berglund, Allen, Bouwmeester, etc. are gone! This is a team built around high dollar contract players that NOBODY else wanted and still don't want.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256594 - 01/12/18 05:54 AM

If they are not going to scratch or bench or take away ice time, I'd just soon they clear the culprits come trade deadline. They might have to do a Lehtera type incentive deal but try to move some of those contracts right now.

We'd be sellers all right, sellers who improve by subtraction alone.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256603 - 01/13/18 06:29 PM

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If they are not going to scratch or bench or take away ice time, I'd just soon they clear the culprits come trade deadline. They might have to do a Lehtera type incentive deal but try to move some of those contracts right now.

We'd be sellers all right, sellers who improve by subtraction alone.




100% agreement.

You and I are not far apart, I just can't accept this any more. I can't spend my money to support it.

I really think that the problem is they can't get rid of these guys.....who wants them and their contracts?

Army did this....and he got an extension. It's just boneheaded wrong.

I'm a Blues fan and always will be.....but not this version. The current veteran player "leadership" just sucks the life out of this team.....and leaves them with no heart.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256605 - 01/14/18 08:17 AM

The issue is they have no heart and soul. These guys just don't care and they know it pisses off griffin, so they try even less...

They really only have a few bad contracts and we all mostly agree on the top one or two. It is my position that this team was flying high and winning when they were flying. When you get "veterans" back that do not play the fast-pace, up-tempo game they were winning with, the overall team speed goes down. Then you give those slugs 20+ mins of ice time each game??? Your going to get beat in today's NHL, if you don't play with speed and every player playing all 200'. If anyone watched the Vegas game at home, you saw what playing with pace means. They beat the best team in the Western Conf. by simply playing with speed and an up-tempo style. You can't do that with players that don't have or won't play with speed.

They will play better than .500 in the second half and make the playoffs. The playoffs are all about peaking at the right time and having a goalie that can play good enough to win. Allen should have his annual headworms cleared by then...

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256606 - 01/14/18 10:17 AM

Sptsman this team is not a given to make anything.

There are just a couple of huge and valid reasons why they might not make the play offs and then there are 3-4 additional reasons that griffin is on to.


The valid? The loss of Schwartz and the huge impact up and down the lines as a result. It was Schwartz who literally dictated the pace of the front lines, including forcing Tarasenko to play 200' and also allowing Schenn to be the best center he can be. He went beyond that too, a 5-10 dynamo winger who should have probably had the C on his sweater. Secondly, this conference and division is pure murder. Pretty much top to bottom. There is not a team in the central that I can't count out of the playoffs.

The other problems can, imo, be at least addressed if Yeo and Army have the inclination to do so. I put all this on them.

You play your best goalie, friggin period.

You play your best blue line and you put your best lines together when you do it. Talking Jbo but Petro needs to get his head out of his azz as of late here too.

You fix your crappy, horrid PP come hell or high water by now.

You exercise your right to bench, scratch, limit, pull, demote ANY player on that team that hurts the system they need to win. Period. Bring up an unprepared Thomas or a raw Kostin if you have to but make the point it's the system or it's the bench and this system requires 100% from everybody, like the October/November hockey we saw.

As for the big 4 that griffin hates I get it but I don't think it's about heart more about now aging bad contracts and slower players and giving them more on the ice than what they deserve for the sake of those contracts. More than anyone, these guys and throw in Tarasenko too need a message sent to get the last drop from them or let some new blood come in and do it for them.

I am not opposed to moving any of those 4 at this trade deadline either. I think they should move who they can and might be better to make do with what they have like earlier this year.

My team is in a funk and falling back into familiar territory. At this point I see THE major part of any possible turnaround being up to Yeo and how he deals with what ails this team and motivation is the biggest factor I can see to do it.

I don't want to see Army dealing our prospects at deadline for 30 point 30 year old guys to make a push. We should sell what we can then make the most of it this spring and hold on to what looks like a near term solid future to fill the holes.

This team is not done yet. But if they want to get back in it, they have to go the new way. The old way won't work.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256607 - 01/14/18 10:56 AM

I called for dismantling the "core" of this team at the start of the season and I still do.

It's time to rebuild and bring up the talent in the organization. I can handle a year or two out of the playoffs in exchange for a real shot at a cup.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256617 - 01/15/18 10:11 PM

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As for the big 4 that griffin hates I get it but I don't think it's about heart more about now aging bad contracts and slower players and giving them more on the ice than what they deserve for the sake of those contracts.




DUDE!!!!

That group was ALWAYS a batch of crap that nobody else wanted because they recognized that you can't win with them......no heart, no leadership.

They have ALWAYS been that way for the Blouse (and every team they played for).....and now you want to blame it on "aging bad contracts". NO!!! They were never what the Blouse sold them as......never.

That group has got to go.....a fire sale is in order.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256621 - 01/16/18 09:34 AM

The no heart thing are just words of opinion. You have yours, I have mine.

Jbo doesn't show any urgency on the ice, but he WAS one of hockeys best skaters, period. He gropes, he poke checks, he smothers...........not your style I get that not mine either but it has ZERO to do with heart. He played for Canada's last Olympic team, the Gold one, so that put him as a top 6 skater recently for the best country in hockey. You don't do that without "heart".
He as slowed, he has aged.

Steen has, for the better part of his career, had more heart or same heart as any other Blue. 2 years ago he was considered one of the top 3 two way players in the league. Injuries have killed him. He is hurt now, slower now and aging as we speak. He may have more yet to give this year, we shall see. Re signing him was a monster mistake.

Stasny was just a bad contract, a bad signing. No where near a 7 million dollar guy. He's good at things, he has heart dude, he's just not near good enough for the ice time he gets or the money he makes. Blues have been choking at this position for years. Right now, he is our best face off guy hands down. Talent and ability and heart are all different things.

Berglund is Berglund. I'll agree with you on that.

And I agree these guys are clogging up the show and in many ways hampering the progress we could be having. Time for changes, past time actually.

Armstrong should be selling. Again, I don't think it will hurt this team now and it is needed to make the team better to unblock for some guys that are close to ready. The Thomas kid may be the center this team has been looking for the last 10 years.

I see what I see. I got opinions on what Armstrong should do. But dude, as a fan, if they are a Blue, I'm gonna cheer for a win every night.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256624 - 01/17/18 05:29 AM

Just curious.......for those who follow......in your wildest dreams.........can anyone imagine Jbo doing what Vince Dunn did last night??

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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      #256627 - 01/17/18 05:12 PM

Sure! 6 to 8 years ago.. well maybe.

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      #256629 - 01/18/18 11:19 AM

If ever there was an opportunity to score a few goals and pick up 2 points, it would be against Ottawa tonight. They have a goal differential of -32 and are below .500. Gotta take advantage...

If the Blues win tonight, they are back at the top of the Division and 2 points out of the #1 spot in the Western Conf. If a person were to read this thread he would either think last stand and griffin are drunk or they have standards that are ridiculous... Why would anyone think they wouldn't play .500 or better hockey, in the 2nd half?

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      #256631 - 01/18/18 09:25 PM

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If a person were to read this thread he would either think last stand and griffin are drunk or they have standards that are ridiculous




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      #256632 - 01/19/18 07:11 AM

So, 4-1 victory in Ottawa, following a 2-1 OT victory in Toronto. In both games they looked decent and played with the intensity needed to win. Next 4 games are Arizona, Ottawa, Colorado & Montreal. All at home and likely to have Schwartz back by the end of the homestand. No reason they can't grab 6 of the 8 points available. And some of you knuckleheads think they won't even make the playoffs? It would take a catastrophic meltdown or some devastating injuries for that not to happen.

Don't hold your breath for any trades bringing a marquee player here. First, there is no cap room and no GM is going to take equal salary for less talent. We just have to hope they can get back to the same game they were playing in the first 1/3 of the season. When Schwartz gets back, that is a very real possibility.

Saturday night will be their breakout night. Write it down!! I predict 5 or more goals...

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      #256633 - 01/19/18 08:14 AM

Dude - I watched an interview with your boy Army where HE said this team is further away from a cup run then they were 2-3 years ago and that the window had closed. HE also said they were in danger of missing the playoffs this year if they played the second half of the season like the last month before their break.....and of course they are. All you have to do is watch the loss column....the Blouse still has 3-4 games in hand on most teams.

Yeah, this 2nd half of the schedule should favor the Blouse, but it's hard to say with this team.....they've never really wanted it that bad as evidence by their dismal playoff performances.

This team will be teeing it up in April.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256634 - 01/21/18 08:07 AM

Nothing to be worried about here.

A game against the Blouse is just what the doctor ordered for a team on a 12 game losing streak.

Stastny is -7
Steen is -14
Berglund is -3
Allen is MIA

By contract and experience THIS is the core of the team. Time for wholesale changes. The only problem is the GM has tied up these players, THAT NOBODY WANTS, with contracts that he can't dump......and that bonehead got a contract extension as well.

Colorado will knock the Blouse down to wild card status by the end of the week......then they'll have to hold on for dear life to make the playoffs. I doubt they'll hold off Dallas so the last spot will be their only chance. It doesn't matter because this team can't get past the first round of the playoffs.

It'll take 3 seasons to work their way out of this cluster fork.

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      #256635 - 01/21/18 08:25 AM

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      #256638 - 01/22/18 05:21 AM

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Why would anyone think they wouldn't play .500 or better hockey, in the 2nd half?






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      #256639 - 01/22/18 05:31 AM

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And some of you knuckleheads think they won't even make the playoffs? It would take a catastrophic meltdown or some devastating injuries for that not to happen.

Saturday night will be their breakout night. Write it down!! I predict 5 or more goals...







Pretty clear you are not paying attention.

Missed the last couple of games but I was told Saturday was the worst game of their year.

It's a long season, I have never written them off, but this team played better without Steen, Berglund and J bo.

They need to SELL come deadline. SELL and get better doing it.

Only in Blues world does that make sense.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256640 - 01/22/18 06:49 PM

The only problem is the only players other team will buy, are the ones you don't want to sell.

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      #256641 - 01/22/18 08:39 PM

C'mon man, get with the program. Yeo is quoted to day as saying those guys "just need to step up".

I guess we've come full circle on this deal. What a mess.

They'll be clinging to the last wild card spot by the end of the weekend.

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      #256643 - 01/23/18 05:47 PM

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I got knucklehead #1 who has "full circle" stated to be completed before the All star break. He's happy because he has seen the train wreck all along before the train ever left the station. This dude is still undecided if a Blues SC celebration would bring him back into the Blues family.He is taking trips to other NHL cities to show his disdain for current management. So....consider the source.

I got knucklehead #2 coming in now claiming Stanley Cup while the team is in present dysfunction. He's wondering why anyone would doubt the Blues can play .500 while for the past 6 weeks they have played under .500. He loves Army and claims victory out of little more than cigar smoke. He is not to be trusted either.

For those who follow, stay tuned and listen to the only truth on this board. Compared to these two knuckleheads, I'm really the only thing you got to what is actually happening with this great franchise.

The team is in flux, the team is flawed, no easy fixes in sight. The odds are against them to become a play off factor. Multiple things have to happen for this team to emerge as a threat. They have some time, but will they have the HEART and the TALENT to turn the ship. Will Army have the nuts to do what is best for this teams near future?

I am rooting for all of that of course. Always have and always will. I'll watch any game any time. But there's only one team I a give a chit about.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
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but will they have the HEART and the TALENT to turn the ship. Will Army have the nuts to do what is best for this teams near future?






So......you ARE questioning this teams heart. The circle is complete.

Make up your mind there, Kreskin.......it ain't gonna make any difference in the season....this version of the Blues is toast.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256646 - 01/24/18 05:23 AM

The January version or the October/November version?

Nothing but 82 games is guaranteed. Not heart, not play offs, not failure.

But 82 games is guaranteed. I'll give them that before I write any obit.

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      #256648 - 01/24/18 03:19 PM

If Yeo plays Allen any time soon, he needs to take a slapshot to the head to knock some sense into him..

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      #256650 - 01/24/18 06:11 PM

The Blues were apparently "mad" against the mighty Senators....owners of the longest current losing streak and 3rd to last in the league.

OK

Tomorrow we find out just how "mad" when they take on one of the two hottest teams in hockey (Bruins and Avs) when they play Colorado. Both teams coming to the game with a day off.

We shall see.

The 'lanch are 4th in GPG....I think it would be a good game for Yeo to get Allen back in. BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256651 - 01/25/18 04:48 AM

Peace to all my Blues Brothers.

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      #256652 - 01/25/18 08:38 PM

I'll be the first to say it......that was a win the Blouse can build on. I hope they do.

Carter Hutton is the #1 goalie.....period.

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      #256653 - 01/26/18 05:38 AM

And still yet far from their best.

But you could sense Schwartz just being on the ice.

Amazing what 2 pp goals and solid tending can do for a team with a good blue line.

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      #256654 - 01/26/18 06:01 AM

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      #256657 - 01/27/18 02:03 PM

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Shane!!!!!!!!

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      #256671 - 01/31/18 08:12 AM

The Blues....The Big Swede.....Bowmister & Steen all lookin good. Oh yeah..E.F. Hutton doing a hellova job





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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: fastman]
      #256672 - 02/01/18 09:03 AM

Once again we come to the Jake Allen crossroad.

Yeo should stick with Hut tonight and then, out of sheer necessity, let Allen take on the Sabres.

When you look at the Blues present position in standings, then understand how if Allen could have just managed 2 or 3 wins out of his last run of dismal game performances, The impact is revealing.

Hut is the guy, no doubt. But the team is still dependent upon Allen to be decent for his fill in starts. Here's to hoping he comes around, the Blues want to remain in top 3 of the Central.

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      #256674 - 02/01/18 04:50 PM

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      #256675 - 02/02/18 10:27 AM

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Once again we come to the Jake Allen crossroad.

Yeo should stick with Hut tonight and then, out of sheer necessity, let Allen take on the Sabres.

When you look at the Blues present position in standings, then understand how if Allen could have just managed 2 or 3 wins out of his last run of dismal game performances, The impact is revealing.

Hut is the guy, no doubt. But the team is still dependent upon Allen to be decent for his fill in starts. Here's to hoping he comes around, the Blues want to remain in top 3 of the Central.




Did you watch the game? Allen was outstanding. He gave up one goal on the worst goalie interference non-call in the history of the NHL and one power play goal that was unstoppable. Otherwise he had about 50 saves and some were spectacular. Unless you're holding him accountable for the empty netter with 0.4 seconds left.

As for the even strength goal, I am still in disbelief that was not disallowed. I am in even more disbelief the Blues have not made a huge stink about it in the press and by default to the NHL. Holy cow that was bad. And this is why the NHL will remain a garage league. The officiating on and off the ice is embarrassing.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #256693 - 02/06/18 09:11 PM

Keep your eye on the L column, it's the true measure when GP's are all over the map.....now only 3 teams in the West with more losses than the Blouse.

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      #256695 - 02/07/18 08:32 AM

That was what, their 6-7th stinker of the year?

I bet the Preds/Lightning and even Winnepeg have had 1 or 2.

Army should SELL as many dead weight guys and contracts he can and let this team fend for themselves this Spring. It would absolutely be the best thing for them now it would likely help and next year he could have the assets to get the right personnel on board along with some prospects moving up.

We'll see where they go, lots of hockey left but it best be winning hockey if they want to play in April.

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      #256699 - 02/07/18 06:56 PM

LS I don't think Army could GIVE some of them away with the contracts they have.. that's a big part of the issue.

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      #256700 - 02/08/18 05:07 AM

Well Stastny is a rental, and he has some value for a contending team. Not saying it's over the top value but something. As for Jbo he has a ntc so it's limited there but still he and Steen and Berglund could add to the right team in the hunt and maybe the Blues can cover some of those contracts.

Keep hearing how the Blues are trying to ADD to make a run. I'm fine with adding IF it is for the long term future of the franchise. Right players, right contracts, like a Schenn. But giving up assets to "make a run" this year with a rental or over the hill player? They should do their best to go the other way imo and move who they can, anyway.

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      #256701 - 02/08/18 05:29 AM

Yep - allow me to reiterate what I said on day one of this season......THIS TEAM, WITH THE CURRENT ROSTER, AND CURRENT TEAM LEADERSHIP, CANNOT WIN.

There is no reason to remain faithful to a franchise that refuses to admit they made (and continue to make) some serious contractual blunders that need to be firmly blamed on the General Manager.

SELL, SELL, SELL, and rebuild this team.

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      #256708 - 02/08/18 03:41 PM

bwaaaaaaaaa..........since when do we have a say if you can reiterate?

I don't buy season tickets or split season tickets any more so I have zero issue with feelings or opinions of anyone who does or if anyone who does that wants to put an end to such a big investment. I get that. There is a special right to b1tch if you have invested hard earned money on a product you no longer like. I get that too.

But as far as being a fan, who cheers them on and wants them to win, who see's a good future very near, I'm not moving off that dime. You and I disagree on that in some weird way because my guess is you have nearly STILL the same thing invested time wise with this team and interest wise with this team as I do but then you pretend you don't and say you're out but clear as day you haven't gone anywhere you've just turned it into all into b1tching and whining. Armstrong has won the head game with you.

AND on top of it all, you aren't "out" of anything that I can tell.

We all have choices for sure. It's just that you're gonna have an ulcer with yours, I'll drink a beer and cheer 'em on tonight with mine. Same as it always was.

And since you asked,no more reiterations! bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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      #256711 - 02/08/18 08:25 PM

The Blues have a tee time with the horrible hunters and fisherman on April 8th they are trying to make. Ownership is working to pull all the money they can until April 7th, so they can put together yet another Chit show for 2018-2019 to sell off to the koolaid drunk homers, as a "contender" for the cup. I'm guessing they can do this for another 3-4 years before the asses get out of the seats, sales fall, and they are forced to get players for another mediocre few seasons, bringing back the koolaid faithful.

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      #256713 - 02/09/18 05:32 AM

Lots of frustration amongst Blues world, more than in many years.

Perhaps enough to get Army to finally do the right things.

I'll be there if he does. And I'll keep you posted.

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      #256721 - 02/10/18 12:14 AM

Frustrated

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      #256737 - 02/13/18 05:41 AM

Yes frustrated.

I don't mind losing to the Pens but when that loss is almost predetermined by sitting your best goalie there's something wrong there. Yeo has officially pizzed me off with this love affair with Allen as he forces him down the Blues throat and risks messing with Huttons head or cooling him off as he does it. Hut is leading the league in goalie stats. Allen is a major head case.

Now it's 2 tough division road games in Dixie haven't beat the preds yet and yeah I'll take 1 out of the 2 right here right now.

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      #256744 - 02/13/18 04:51 PM

Girls Olympic Hockey !! Nows thats hockey!!

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      #256746 - 02/13/18 11:09 PM

No way dude.....blowing a 3 goal lead with 5 minutes to play against a team you HAVE to beat....now THAT'S hockey!!

Way to show that heart!!!

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      #256747 - 02/14/18 05:34 AM

I think it was 10 minutes. Went from perhaps top game of the year to last with that collapse.

Penalty shot was a joke. The Preds are the darlings of the league for sure...horrible show by the refs as well as the Blues.

I wouldn't sit amongst those whiny ass fans down their if it was the last chair on earth.

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      #256750 - 02/14/18 06:27 PM

Why do you hate the Grand Ole Opry?

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      #256751 - 02/15/18 10:07 AM

He wasn’t smart enough to get into Vanderbilt and has had a hatred for the town ever since.

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      #256757 - 02/17/18 10:26 AM

Welp, that's the end of whatever run anyone thought they were making. (bolstered by a point total that had nothing to do with actual record due to GP) Now they're just another wild card team fighting for a playoff spot.......I don't think it looks good for a team that has no idea who they are.

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      #256759 - 02/18/18 07:50 AM

There are multiple things going on with this team that is keeping them from being a contender. There's talent issues, leadership issues, now a coaching issue (goalie) and maybe a schism within the player ranks.

Their record over the last 5 is 2-3, but they actually played a lot better than that, short of the disastrous 10 minutes in Nashville.

There's 22 games left and I am going to agree it doesn't look good. I won't write them off but it's not one thing or one player that is going wrong here. It's a collective thing and that means they have a lot of hard work to do as a team to get it fixed.

One thing is clear to me, Armstrong needs to move some contracts before the deadline. And no rentals, no picks/prospects for has beens or ho hums. Trade for the future, period.

This teams ranking is spot on and precisely accurate as to what they are. And on top of that they are teetering, too. Time and excuses are running thin. The only way to change any of this is to find the ways to win.

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There are multiple things going on with this team that is keeping them from being a contender. There's talent issues, leadership issues, now a coaching issue (goalie) and maybe a schism within the player ranks.

Their record over the last 5 is 2-3, but they actually played a lot better than that, short of the disastrous 10 minutes in Nashville.

There's 22 games left and I am going to agree it doesn't look good. I won't write them off but it's not one thing or one player that is going wrong here. It's a collective thing and that means they have a lot of hard work to do as a team to get it fixed.

One thing is clear to me, Armstrong needs to move some contracts before the deadline. And no rentals, no picks/prospects for has beens or ho hums. Trade for the future, period.

This teams ranking is spot on and precisely accurate as to what they are. And on top of that they are teetering, too. Time and excuses are running thin. The only way to change any of this is to find the ways to win.




Dude - you're spot on......but you're pinning your hopes for the future on the GM who created this mess. I just don't see it.

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      #256761 - 02/18/18 04:44 PM

a schism....

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      #256762 - 02/19/18 06:00 AM

Unfortunately I have little else to pin my mini hopes since DA was just signed to that extension.

I'm actually more fearful than hopeful.

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      #256766 - 02/20/18 08:48 PM

This team has been toast since day one. I guess nobody is going to step up after all.

Worst version of the Blues in their history. The best thing that could happen to the franchise is this implosion. Good riddance to this bunch.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256767 - 02/21/18 05:42 AM

They haven been toast since day one.

It's not the worst team in their history.

You got enough facts to work with try sticking with them.

If this team had a solid #1 goal tender it would be worth about 10 more points alone.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256769 - 02/21/18 08:52 AM

Oh forking please......this squad has THE NUMBER ONE GOALIE IN HOCKEY IN SAVE % AND GAA. This is NOT a goalie issue (other than the fact that Armstrong pinned his hopes on a forking nut job). Hutton has certainly been far better than expected and WAY good enough. In fact......he HAS stolen 10 points for them. Without Hutton that team would be 8 points out of a playoff spot.

For forks sake.....Hutton has played one less game than the #3 goalie in the league, Fluery, who is leading his expansion team toward a Presidents cup. Hutton has a gutless squad of whiners in front of him.

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Oh forking please......this squad has THE NUMBER ONE GOALIE IN HOCKEY IN SAVE % AND GAA. This is NOT a goalie issue (other than the fact that Armstrong pinned his hopes on a forking nut job). Hutton has certainly been far better than expected and WAY good enough. In fact......he HAS stolen 10 points for them. Without Hutton that team would be 8 points out of a playoff spot.

For forks sake.....Hutton has played one less game than the #3 goalie in the league, Fluery, who is leading his expansion team toward a Presidents cup. Hutton has a gutless squad of whiners in front of him.

Good swing.






If you can follow along, again that's a big if........its the 5-8 games that Yeo insisted on playing Allen that we lost that has killed this teams point tally. He keeps jamming Allen down the teams throat.That's the ten points I'm talking about.

Not only that, but he managed to cool Hutton off while he did it, too. Totally stupid move.

Now here's something really special for you, since I have to do your work for you. Here is much of what you have been saying, on a platter. It's from JR in his Atlantic newsletter. And don't say I never did anything for you. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa



Hey JR,

There's no beating around the bush — the Predator loss was brutal. That game glorified every strength the Blues have and magnified every weakness as well. And in my opinion, the weaknesses outshined the strengths. This very frustrated fan of 30 years has all but turned the page on this season as the Blues have not shown they have the capability to play against the likes of a team with Moxi like the Predators, Lightning or even the Pens.
My sentiment is at this point I'd rather see them miss the playoffs this year, have a gut check over the summer and come back embarrassed and on a mission next year. I think it'd be the best thing for the team honestly because they need something to change the culture in that locker room and missing the playoffs with talent like they have may do it. It's clear whatever message Mike Yeo is suggesting or leadership tactics being used by the vets isn't working. Do you think missing the playoffs is what this team needs to 'wake up'?
-Gary


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In order to answer this question, I need to break it down into two parts and keep it as real as possible.

1) Would missing the playoffs wake up the Blues?

2) If the Blues missed the playoffs, would Doug Armstrong make the necessary moves to change the culture?

But before I answer No. 1, let's make sure we're on the same page. When someone asks me whether missing the playoffs would “wake up” the Blues, give them a “gut check” and put them “on a mission,” I take that to mean you're asking about the players. You might be referring to the organization from top to bottom, but I prefer to focus my answer from a players' perspective. And my answer is “no,” it would not wake up them any more than losing in the second round woke them up last season. Would they be disappointed? Certainly. Would they tell media and fans that it's unacceptable? More times than you want to hear. But would they do any more self-examination than they did any other year or talk more amongst themselves about why they're so inconsistent? No and no. Some of you might be asking why nothing would change. I'm not saying nothing would change. I'm just saying I don't believe the Blues missing the playoffs by three points is going to put a more determined, ticked off team on the ice next season. Call me fatigued on the end-of-the-season post-mortem interviews. Every May, I see a despondent group of players and every October-April I see the same group making the same mistakes and excuses.

Now No. 2, what could be a benefit of missing the playoffs: changing the culture. Whether the Blues make the playoffs or not, I think they have to address this issue. Listen, the Blues obviously have talented players and they have good people in their locker room. But I think they have a roster that has too many players who just brush everything off. Nothing is ever a major deal in their eyes. Yeah, they might get mad at times, but there's always another game tomorrow, there's always a chance to fix things. I understand that. It's a long season and you're not going to play well every night. You lose a game, you regroup and play better next time. But I believe, if they had more players who got (upset) off in the moment, like let's turn this game around now, let's not wait for the next game, they'd have a better record. I think that part of the reason we don't see this is because they don't pull together like they should. I'm not saying these guys don't like playing together, but they don't pull together.

This is the part of my answer where I'll try to keep it as real as possible. I think some players resent that Vladimir Tarasenko doesn't work as hard as he should. I think some players who think that aren't working as hard as they should be. I don't think the leaders are doing a good enough job of taking the different personalities in the locker room and making everybody feel like one. Is Dmitrij Jaskin a bit of a loner? Yeah. Have the Blues tried to make him feel like them? Maybe more than I know. But has it been enough? No. Not just with Jaskin, but others, too, whether it's been this year or in the past. That translates on the ice. Guys are just playing hockey, many of them not playing FOR EACH OTHER. And I haven't even mentioned the guys who are just playing for the paycheck or the lifestyle, which in this case I'm not going to name names, but they know who they are.

I truly believe that whether the Blues make the playoffs or not, Armstrong is going to have to address the attitude of this team. If I know it's a problem, he has to know. It will be hard to change the culture — it's hard to move contracts in the NHL — but I believe it's necessary. I don't believe the team's problems can be found in analyzing a bad goal, a bad loss or a bad homestand. I believe they're tied to the fact that it's a group of players who are passing the puck to each other because they were either drafted or signed contracts to play for the Blues and they happen to be wearing the same crest on their sweater — not because they're going to go to the front of the net, take a slash to the leg, absorb the pain and score a goal, because that's what you do for your teammates and your coach and your fans. When you can show me that that's how much these guys care, then I'll show you a team that doesn't poop its pants on the ice and then repeat the same B.S. to reporters game after game after game. Does that answer your question?

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      #256771 - 02/21/18 01:22 PM

I made it about halfway through that crap......next time hit me up and I'll save you 10 minutes of your life.

THIS TEAM HAS NO HEART!!!!

Same thing I've said since day one....and last year too. Any more questions?

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      #256772 - 02/21/18 03:17 PM

Times of turmoil in Blues land. Familiar territory.

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      #256773 - 02/22/18 07:21 PM

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Times of turmoil in Blues land. Familiar territory.

Peace to all my Blues Brothers.




Thread killer!!!! 24 hours without a “Blouse” post.

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      #256774 - 02/23/18 02:16 PM

The Post?? While it is unwriten that they at least try and act like they aren't homers-- they are

The Post lost the only real sports writer (Bernie Miklasz)they had to 101sports.com



The Blues Must Stop the Skid and Show Us That They Care
By Bernie Miklasz
February 23, 2018 9:30 am

Short of using an actual cattle prod to jolt his players out of their catatonic state, Blues coach Mike Yeo keeps trying various motivational methods to get the boys moving.

He did the Herb Brooks bag-skate punishment.

He made the players sit at their lockers like petulant brats to face the media after a hideous home loss.

Coach tried canceling a practice to convene a big, big, big, big team meeting.

Then he sent the players home. I am unable to confirm that he ordered them to bed without eating their supper.

Welcome to Ken Hitchcock’s world, Yeo.

Yeo is the latest Blues coach to fly over the cuckoos nest.

Forget the Stanley Cup. If there was a massive trophy awarded to the NHL team that excels at the task of making a coach go insane until he cracks, gets fired or both … well, the Blues would be a dynasty. They’d win the Poison Cup on a regular basis.

Yeo is irate and frustrated and increasingly unable to withhold his criticism of a maddening team.

Yeo doesn’t seem to know what to do.

Don’t taze them, Yeo.

After losing four in a row and , it’s time for the Blues to make a decision.

They have two choices:

1. Flip the script, turn their season around, and earn respect.

2. Or flop.

As Yeo told reporters after Thursday’s practice, “Now it’s between the ears.”

It’s always between the ears with these guys.

The Independent Contractors work on their own schedule.

Let’s hope they don’t take Friday night off. Not with Winnipeg cruising into the Scottrade Center, looking to put another loss on the Blues, and make Yeo blue in the face.

“It’s going to come through our play,” Yeo said. “What matters right now is everybody understands the situation that we’re in … now it’s about us making sure that we come together as a group and rebuilding the trust in our game and understanding that they we go out and do things the right way shift after shift, man after man — we’re going to get the results that we’re looking for.”

Here’s the situation that Yeo speaks of:

— In their last 30 games the Blues are 13-15-2, with a .467 winning percentage that ranks 20th in the 31-team league.

— They’ve scored a pathetic average of 2.27 goals per contest while skating into this 30-game rut. That’s the worst scoring average in the NHL since Dec. 11. Vladimir Tarasenko and Alexander Steen each have 10 goals in the 30 games, and that’s tied for 51st among NHL players since Dec. 11.

— The Blues’ shooting percentage over the last 30 games is 7.0 percent, worst among Western Conference teams. The power play is malfunctioning with a failure rate of just under 84 percent; that ranks 29th since Dec. 11.

— The return of Jaden Schwartz from a fractured ankle was touted as a panacea for all that ailed the Blues. But in his 11 games the Blues have muddled along to a 5-5-1 record … with a minor uptick in offense to 2.54 goals per game.

— This must be said: When Yeo coached Minnesota from the start of the 2011 season until his dismissal 55 games into the 2015-16 campaign, the most significant knock against him was a dull offense. The Wild were 27th in goals per game (2.42) and 25th in power-play success (16.7%) during Yeo’s term as coach. The Wild never finished better than 12th in goals. In other seasons they ranked anywhere from 21st to 30th. Same with the power play. The best showing in a season was a No. 16 ranking in PP success rate (that happened in two seasons.) Otherwise Minnesota was 23rd and 27th (twice.) Not good.

— According to SportsClubStats the Blues’ probability of making the playoffs has dropped to 58.2 percent as the weekend begins.

The Blues (34-23-2) are down to 21 regular-season games. The threat of becoming the first Blues team to miss the playoffs since 2011 should get the engines started. And looking at the numbers at SportsClubStats, if the Blues can go 11-6-4 in their final 21 games, they’d have a 93.7 percent chance of getting into the tournament. A 13-7-1 record improves their postseason chances to 98.2 percent.

The most critical phase of the season begins … now.

Starting with Winnipeg, the Blues confront an eight-game stretch that includes six road games. And as you can see, none are pleasure trips: at Nashville, Minnesota, Dallas, San Jose, Los Angeles and Anaheim.

Including Friday’s home game vs. Winnipeg, the Blues must collect as many points as possible in six games against teams that have no worse than a 74.1% chance of being in the playoffs. And a seventh, Anaheim, has a playoff probability of 63.4 percent. There’s also a home game — the first one back from the West Coast trip — against Colorado, which has a 38% shot at postseason hockey.

Time to make a decision, fellows.

It’s your call.

Maybe even the last call.

Thanks for reading …

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: wuchang]
      #256775 - 02/24/18 07:08 AM

It was a great start last night, as usual.

Then Winnie scored and the game was over.

I suggest Yeo read to them the story of Lazarus. It's the only way out for this team.

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      #256776 - 02/24/18 05:31 PM

This team has no heart..NONE!
Who is wearing the C?????

Bring back Elliot!!

They'll not get one red cent of my support!!!

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This team has no heart..NONE!
Who is wearing the C?????

Bring back Elliot!!

They'll not get one red cent of my support!!!




I don't blame you.....now 15th in the league, and judging from the loss column.....remember the LOSS column???.....they've still got a few more places to fall....and that's not counting the fact that they currently sit OUTSIDE the last playoff spot in the West.

I will say this though, after reading Bernie's column that Wu posted....they sure played with some urgency and purpose last night.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256778 - 02/25/18 05:13 AM

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This team has no heart..NONE!
Who is wearing the C?????

Bring back Elliot!!

They'll not get one red cent of my support!!!




I don't blame you.....now 15th in the league, and judging from the loss column.....remember the LOSS column???.....they've still got a few more places to fall....and that's not counting the fact that they currently sit OUTSIDE the last playoff spot in the West.

I will say this though, after reading Bernie's column that Wu posted....they sure played with some urgency and purpose last night.

griffin




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      #256779 - 02/25/18 06:49 AM

With Eddie and Bortz out that blue line looks more like playdough. Allens a joke.

Nashville and Minnie up next and both licking their chops. It's a Lazarus miracle or soon it's over.

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      #256780 - 02/25/18 01:11 PM

I just have to say it. The urgency, grit, and pure heart this team is showing when their season is on the brink is just unbelievable. I've never seen so many players step up to keep them in the hunt. These latest efforts against Winnipeg and Nashville show just how determined they are!!

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      #256782 - 02/26/18 11:22 AM

Goodbye Paul Stastny.Sent to the Jets for a forward prospect, a 1st and a fourth rounder. Blues are still eating half of his salary for the rest of the year. All things considered I think this was better than I thought they'd get. Is this start of the sell off Griffin has been asking for??? Now if someone will please take Berglund.. and Bouwmeester..

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      #256783 - 02/26/18 11:46 AM

1 down.

4 to go.

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      #256784 - 02/26/18 12:19 PM

Have any of you watched any NBA games lately? My oldest is 15 and got interested in it last year. I haven't watched any games since the mid 90's.

What a joke that sport has become. Zero down low game. Just run and chuck 200 shots from 3 pt land, no offensive rebounding and no foul calls. I won't even get in to the toughness of then players themselves compared to players of olden days..

Anyway, you all should watch some of that and then come back to hockey.. I think you'll appreciate it a bit more. For me, I may be gaining points as a dad, but I had to have the wife hide the pistols for fear of ending my life..



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      #256785 - 02/26/18 03:45 PM

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Goodbye Paul Stastny.Sent to the Jets for a forward prospect, a 1st and a fourth rounder. Blues are still eating half of his salary for the rest of the year. All things considered I think this was better than I thought they'd get. Is this start of the sell off Griffin has been asking for??? Now if someone will please take Berglund.. and Bouwmeester..




Not a bad deal......they're going to have to eat some salary this year to dump this dead weight, and that's the price for all of these stupid contracts.

Good riddance......keep it going!!!

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      #256786 - 02/26/18 04:07 PM

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Have any of you watched any NBA games lately? My oldest is 15 and got interested in it last year. I haven't watched any games since the mid 90's.

What a joke that sport has become. Zero down low game. Just run and chuck 200 shots from 3 pt land, no offensive rebounding and no foul calls. I won't even get in to the toughness of then players themselves compared to players of olden days..

Anyway, you all should watch some of that and then come back to hockey.. I think you'll appreciate it a bit more. For me, I may be gaining points as a dad, but I had to have the wife hide the pistols for fear of ending my life..






No, just no!!

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      #256787 - 02/26/18 08:55 PM

Now 16th in the league.....looking at the L column I'd say they will settle in at about 19th, and well out of the playoffs. (if you go back and look, this was plainly evident 6 weeks ago as they sat in 3rd-5th spot, with nearly all other teams with 4-6 games in hand)

Numbers.....they mean something.

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      #256791 - 02/27/18 10:07 PM

I like the heart they showed in tonights loss to the Wild. I thought it was the baseball score for a second.

This team is a coat hanger abortion in the back seat of a caddy in Spanish Harlem.....on Mother's Day.

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      #256792 - 02/27/18 10:26 PM

I don't think you've been paying attention, dog.....these are professional athletes who go out every night and play their guts out....one thing they are NOT missing is heart!!

Outscored 16-3 in the 3 games since it was "time to right the ship". bwaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha!

Now 17th place in the league!

AGAIN, this is the worst Blues team to ever lace up skates.....just no life, no leadership, no desire, no heart.

Go BLOUSE!!!!

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      #256793 - 02/28/18 05:56 AM

They got hearts they're just not beating right now.


Down 2-1 and on the pk when they should have been up 1-0 and Jbo sends a 150 footer out of the rink.


52 years is a long time but yep.....not sure I've seen anything quite like this chit show right now.

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      #256805 - 03/01/18 08:56 PM

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They got hearts they're just not beating right now.


Down 2-1 and on the pk when they should have been up 1-0 and Jbo sends a 150 footer out of the rink.


52 years is a long time but yep.....not sure I've seen anything quite like this chit show right now.




I knew you would eventually come around to our thinking. I just wanna see you type those bastards have no heart...........before you shoot the computer for agreeing with us.

Of course if you do that you won’t be able to see me telling your DeJong Still can’t hit a breaking ball after spending all winter trying to learn.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: H2ODOG]
      #256807 - 03/02/18 09:12 AM

Unlike you two I have zero problem admitting when wrong. Like you and Dejong.

Do the Blues have problem contracts? Absolutely. I never picked them to go deep, I saw that in July.

BTW I'm still rooting for that TEAM and most of the players. Always will, too.

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      #256810 - 03/02/18 08:20 PM

I'm not wrong about DeJong. The kid like most MLB players can hit the fastball. He struggles with the Breaking stuff and the high stuff or inside stuff. Its not too hard to figure out where to pitch him. He likes a fast ball over the plate and belt high. Who the fork doesn't like it there. Low he likes but, its gotta be middle to outside.

Good teams figured him out. The shitty ones didn't. Good pitchers figured him out. The shitty ones didn't. He performed way better than I thought, but he better learn to hit the breaking balls and develop some hitting besides over the heart of the plate.

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      #256811 - 03/04/18 04:27 PM

Nobody gives a crap about the cardinals...take this baseball shite to the proper forum. Yall can determine the smartest baseball know it all there.

I'm riveted in on how to help tha Blue..

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      #256812 - 03/04/18 05:46 PM

bwaaaaaaaaaa.............Dawg confirms himself the smartest no matter the forum Bub.....but you already know that.

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      #256813 - 03/04/18 05:54 PM

Gotta say............and it takes some hard medicine to say it.......but I'm down with Griff on Petro.

Not sure if any of you actually watch the Blues in Dallas but Saturdays game pretty much seals the deal for me.

I'm up for trading Petro for the RIGHT RETURN. He IS a good defenseman, he has a lot of talent and ability, but unless he goes through some kind of high powered transformation, he doesn't belong in STl on this particular team and no way does he deserve to wear a C. There's places for him, but here and now is no longer the right place.

Never been this low as a Blues fan, and there's been plenty to be low about in the past 5 decades, but it is what it is.

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Gotta say............and it takes some hard medicine to say it.......but I'm down with Griff on Petro.

Not sure if any of you actually watch the Blues in Dallas but Saturdays game pretty much seals the deal for me.

I'm up for trading Petro for the RIGHT RETURN. He IS a good defenseman, he has a lot of talent and ability, but unless he goes through some kind of high powered transformation, he doesn't belong in STl on this particular team and no way does he deserve to wear a C. There's places for him, but here and now is no longer the right place.

Never been this low as a Blues fan, and there's been plenty to be low about in the past 5 decades, but it is what it is.

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Yeah, it is what it is. Petro can't lead this team.....and I doubt he's cut out for the C on any team. I agree that he has some major value in a trade and the Blues organization should take advantage of it.

Petro, Steen, Berglund, Allen, Bowmeester.......all need to be sent packing. If Tarasenko doesn't get his head together he can be shipped out for a scorer who isn't a good fit for their team too.

Right now I'm not loyal to ANY of the current players.....if the right deal can be made, move them out. I'd like to see a team on the ice next year that I don't even recognize except for the Blue Note on their sweater. This version is terrible.

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Stories on the Blouse can't even stay on the front page of stltoday..........nobody cares about this group. Rightfully so.

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      #256816 - 03/06/18 06:11 AM

You are likely out again next year dude. I can't see how they can move all they really need to move. Blues need world class triage.

1) Dump Allen,

2) Dump two of Sobotka, Berglund, Jbo, Steen

3) Big trade pieces Petro, Tarasenko, Parayko (I doubt it happens with any of them)

Schenn should wear the C, there's no question about that.

If 1 and 2 happens, it's a big step towards a turn around. Blues have a lot of nice pieces and some good young prospects in the wings. They need to get the cancer out and get more character in to move forward. A big trade could do this.

Beginning to wonder about Yeo. I'm now up in the air on him, hard not to be. But I put this on the players and DA first and foremost.

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      #256817 - 03/06/18 06:12 AM

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Stories on the Blouse can't even stay on the front page of stltoday..........nobody cares about this group. Rightfully so.

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You are likely out again next year dude. I can't see how they can move all they really need to move. Blues need world class triage.

1) Dump Allen,

2) Dump two of Sobotka, Berglund, Jbo, Steen

3) Big trade pieces Petro, Tarasenko, Parayko (I doubt it happens with any of them)

Schenn should wear the C, there's no question about that.

If 1 and 2 happens, it's a big step towards a turn around. Blues have a lot of nice pieces and some good young prospects in the wings. They need to get the cancer out and get more character in to move forward. A big trade could do this.

Beginning to wonder about Yeo. I'm now up in the air on him, hard not to be. But I put this on the players and DA first and foremost.

ls - the guy now waiting on DA to straighten out his own mess.

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Not anything there I'd have a problem with.

I'm only out again if none of that is accomplished. If there are moves to dump the dead weight and one of those major pieces are traded for a character guy, I could easily be back in with the youngsters they have in their system. I WANT to root for the Blues.....but no way as long as they continue on the path they've been on. There is NOTHING to root for.

I have refrained from doing the "I told you so" routine because I know you are a true fan like I am.....but who the hell did not see this coming?

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      #256819 - 03/06/18 02:12 PM

Ray Charles even saw this coming.........and that sumbitch is blind and. Dead.

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You are likely out again next year dude. I can't see how they can move all they really need to move. Blues need world class triage.

1) Dump Allen,

2) Dump two of Sobotka, Berglund, Jbo, Steen

3) Big trade pieces Petro, Tarasenko, Parayko (I doubt it happens with any of them)

Schenn should wear the C, there's no question about that.

If 1 and 2 happens, it's a big step towards a turn around. Blues have a lot of nice pieces and some good young prospects in the wings. They need to get the cancer out and get more character in to move forward. A big trade could do this.

Beginning to wonder about Yeo. I'm now up in the air on him, hard not to be. But I put this on the players and DA first and foremost.

ls - the guy now waiting on DA to straighten out his own mess.

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All valid points. I myself would try to keep Parayko but wouldn't scream is they move him. But is there ANYTHING, I mean ANYTHING, that Armstrong has done in his career in management with the Blues to make you think he will do any of that??? And as far the 2) group... who would take them? You would have to eat a chit-ton of the contract and the Blues don't do that..

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You are likely out again next year dude. I can't see how they can move all they really need to move. Blues need world class triage.

1) Dump Allen,

2) Dump two of Sobotka, Berglund, Jbo, Steen

3) Big trade pieces Petro, Tarasenko, Parayko (I doubt it happens with any of them)

Schenn should wear the C, there's no question about that.

If 1 and 2 happens, it's a big step towards a turn around. Blues have a lot of nice pieces and some good young prospects in the wings. They need to get the cancer out and get more character in to move forward. A big trade could do this.

Beginning to wonder about Yeo. I'm now up in the air on him, hard not to be. But I put this on the players and DA first and foremost.

ls - the guy now waiting on DA to straighten out his own mess.

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All valid points. I myself would try to keep Parayko but wouldn't scream is they move him. But is there ANYTHING, I mean ANYTHING, that Armstrong has done in his career in management with the Blues to make you think he will do any of that??? And as far the 2) group... who would take them? You would have to eat a chit-ton of the contract and the Blues don't do that..




That's why I say 2 of 4 would be a miracle in itself.

Jbo might be done. He has a serious injury and to his credit he has been playing hurt. Bad. For the past month at least. If he can go on that IRTL list he could get paid for his last year but it would not go against our cap. Huge if it happens.

The other three, who ever of them, would have to be packaged with someone else or a prospect or a draft pick to get rid of them, like Lehtera/Schenn deal, which actually worked out not great but better than ok. Believe it or not teams would be interested in Berglund and probably Steen but yeah, it will cost us more than likely.

The whole thing as I see it is what can Army do but more importantly is what is he willing to do. He needs to go to confession and tell Father Tom all his sins and come clean and erase what he can of his mistakes.

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You are likely out again next year dude. I can't see how they can move all they really need to move. Blues need world class triage.

1) Dump Allen,

2) Dump two of Sobotka, Berglund, Jbo, Steen

3) Big trade pieces Petro, Tarasenko, Parayko (I doubt it happens with any of them)

Schenn should wear the C, there's no question about that.

If 1 and 2 happens, it's a big step towards a turn around. Blues have a lot of nice pieces and some good young prospects in the wings. They need to get the cancer out and get more character in to move forward. A big trade could do this.

Beginning to wonder about Yeo. I'm now up in the air on him, hard not to be. But I put this on the players and DA first and foremost.

ls - the guy now waiting on DA to straighten out his own mess.

Go Blue!




Not anything there I'd have a problem with.

I'm only out again if none of that is accomplished. If there are moves to dump the dead weight and one of those major pieces are traded for a character guy, I could easily be back in with the youngsters they have in their system. I WANT to root for the Blues.....but no way as long as they continue on the path they've been on. There is NOTHING to root for.

I have refrained from doing the "I told you so" routine because I know you are a true fan like I am.....but who the hell did not see this coming?

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So kind of you to refrain. BTW, did you refrain? bwaaaaaa

I did not see Oct-Nov coming and have to say I did not see this total collapse coming either. I knew there'd be ups and downs and a scramble for the playoffs but this has been a bazaar ride.

And crazy as it is, the year ain't over for me.

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Not anything there I'd have a problem with.

I'm only out again if none of that is accomplished. If there are moves to dump the dead weight and one of those major pieces are traded for a character guy, I could easily be back in with the youngsters they have in their system. I WANT to root for the Blues.....but no way as long as they continue on the path they've been on. There is NOTHING to root for.

I have refrained from doing the "I told you so" routine because I know you are a true fan like I am.....but who the hell did not see this coming?

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Dude - the Royals don't have any fans....that's a joke.

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      #256831 - 03/08/18 11:04 PM

There they were, on the West Coast in desperate need of a win.

Tied 0-0 going into the 3rd and a real chance to maybe steal a point or two.

TWO shots in the 3rd period.

I gotta say, the heart of this team is beating strong! You can always count on them to give it 100%!! 3 points in the last 10 games and the worst record in hockey by far over that span. THIS TEAM IS FULL OF HEART!!!!!

After the game, Jake "the head case" Allen actually said, "we're in desperation mode now". LMAOOOOOOOOOO

They are just about to sink to where they were always headed......bottom 3rd of the league....they're already there in their conference.

There has never been a worse version of the Blues.

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      #256832 - 03/09/18 02:49 PM

I don't know Griff about the worst..
The 78 - 79 team going 18-50-12 was really bad.
How about a total of 21 wins in 05 - 06? They sucked arse too.
Yep this team is really bad.. but I think both of those teams were worse.. bu they probably had more "heart"..

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I don't know Griff about the worst..
The 78 - 79 team going 18-50-12 was really bad.
How about a total of 21 wins in 05 - 06? They sucked arse too.
Yep this team is really bad.. but I think both of those teams were worse.. bu they probably had more "heart"..




Those teams had no skill. Not so with this one.

Here's the truth, and I watched it in person for 5 years:

This was a team born of early draft choices and big contracts for "skilled" players. This is/was a skilled team, or at least it was built with that idea. Armstrong himself has said that there was a window for a cup run, and I don't disagree. (until he killed it)

The fact is, the "leaders" of this version of the Blues were NOTHING of the sort. They quit on one of the best coaches in hockey. After that happened the GM doubled down by extending contracts and firing the coach for a guy who was being "tutored on the job" to be the head coach while the head coach was still there.....a boneheaded move that could only be conceived by an idiot (Doug Armstrong.....the same idiot who extended the contracts of quitters). After the idiot fired the head coach, he traded away the only character players on the team, and instituted the new coach as the savior. Problem was, and is, the "leaders" of the team were still the same guys who quit on their coach.....it's in their nature....and they eventually quit on the new coach too.

No sir....there has NEVER been a worse "team" than this one to wear the Note. Don't be fooled by people who don't know hockey. This team was a failure from day one this season (the reason I dummped my season tickets).....propped up by a schedule quirk that made it appear they were better than they were (more games played than any other team in hockey by 4-8% in the first 3 months). The losses were ignored for the point total, which is a farce under the OT loss system in the NHL.

This is a team of quitters......there can never be a worse team than that....regardless of the record.

To add to the misery, Doug Armstrong's contract extension is a forking joke. He has ran this team into the ground. (Davidson left him plenty of good pieces)....ultimately HE owns this abortion and anyone who says differently is an idiot.

BTW - in case anyone is still counting, they are now 19th in the league......they've got two more places to fall before they are EXACTLY where I said they would be before the season started.......not even in the top 20.

FORK THIS TEAM!!!!!

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      #256834 - 03/10/18 04:47 AM

They are in free fall right now. They weren't as good as their record in oct-nov but they are not as bad as their record is now either even though they are playing as bad as they can so yeah, it's a hard argument to make.

I don't disagree one of the worst teams in the franchises history. Some skill issues for sure but even worse some bad actors splitting the team up, imo.

We had what was a "heavy" team and DA moved and/or lost the most heavy players who happened to be key role guys in making this team go.

He never replaced them.

Rather, he re-signed Allen (worst move and completely unnecessary at the time),Steen and Berglund and Sobi. All convenient, lazy signings and all are part of the teams problems now one way or another.

Then you are left with guys like Tarasenko and Petro who couldn't lead a horse to water. Both skilled, talented and potentially great but presently wasting every bodies time and money as they pretend to play and fail their team.

Worth mentioning again is Allen. A true head case. He's signed for 3 more years too. Can't understate his role in all of this.

As I said imo there's a split on this team, a cancer that has exasperated all the other issues. Probably not more than just 2 players. Whatever the changes coming this summer, and there needs to be many, this HAS to be addressed and true leaders have to be brought in.

I would far prefer to see Thomas and Thompson and Kyrou and new players do their best next year trying to build something than watch this debacle.

As for Yeo, very disappointed in his handling of Allen and his complete failure to fix the pp all season long. I'm not sure yet but he also seems to be favoring the guys who have been around and, well, that makes no sense if he is.

It's a tough time right now. And DA is probably the last guy I would pick to fix this mess.

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to fix it, DA would have to admit me has made multiple serious mistakes. I don't think his ego will let him do that..

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y only crickets?

I detect a pulse.sure.not quite a heartbeat yet, but, we're lookin good so 4

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      #256843 - 03/13/18 06:13 AM

That was there best game in a month.

Allen is impersonating as a goalie again.

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If they win tonight v. the Avalanche at home I give them a 50/50 shot at a wild card spot.

If they lose tonight I think they are done....just not enough life to make it happen.

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If they win tonight v. the Avalanche at home I give them a 50/50 shot at a wild card spot.

If they lose tonight I think they are done....just not enough life to make it happen.

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That'll be some parade....you pushing LS down Market Street in a wheelchair asking folks to just step up.

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      #256847 - 03/16/18 05:26 AM

At this point, I damn well might be in a wheelchair before I see a Cup come down Market street.

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If they win tonight v. the Avalanche at home I give them a 50/50 shot at a wild card spot.

If they lose tonight I think they are done....just not enough life to make it happen.

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Last one out turn out the lights......I've watched my last game this year.

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Last one out turn out the lights......I've watched my last game this year.

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Finally.

Thank you.

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Did Dawg quit too?




I say>>>>

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      #256859 - 03/19/18 06:21 AM

5-2-1 since the losing streak was stopped.

In spite of ho hum play by Allen who continues to give up goals that don't belong.

Maybe Petros best game ever. And Dunn too. Anybody notice who's not on the blue line these days???

Blues 5th of the five teams going after 2 spots. To have a prayer, the tending has to be better. Like, a lot better.

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      #256860 - 03/19/18 08:49 AM

Fabrii???


Always a chance. Long way 2 go.

1 game ( which we have in hand over dallas and LA ) @ a time.

Lookin 4 ward 2 Boston.


Hutton back soon??? Who u play in goal LS?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: fastman]
      #256861 - 03/19/18 05:34 PM

Just not an Allen fan Eddie. He played great in the Fall and then fell down. The last two games he was his average self, letting in 2-3 bad goals. This, on a team having trouble scoring.

Last 3 games he has allowed 10 goals and that's without having a ton of shots taken against him. Heck he's been a big problem 2/3rds of the season now.

Not good enough.

Husso, the rookie, is back-up right now. He looks like he's 12 years old and it might be crazy to throw him in for Boston but I'd be tempted. He has played very well of late in the AHL. But I seriously doubt Yeo or DA are going to do that.

Hope Hutton is coming back soon. But for whatever reason Yeo and DA have been Jakes biggest fans and unfortunately my gut says we are stuck with him. He's a goof, he could get hot as a firecracker, but he better giddy up if he wants it to count.

Boston's one of the leagues hottest and best. Gonna be a tough 2 points to get.

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      #256862 - 03/20/18 05:03 PM

Senko pretty much out for Wednesday.

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      #256865 - 03/22/18 05:43 AM

Oh baby.

How cool was that?

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      #256866 - 03/22/18 06:22 AM

Dam.missed it.





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      #256868 - 03/22/18 07:39 AM

I believe Schwartz is back in full plumage!

Allen with a mistake free 20 shot game. Does wonders.

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      #256879 - 03/24/18 07:50 AM

On to the big boys.

Eight left.

Points from the next three may well decide their fate.

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      #256880 - 03/25/18 06:39 AM

5-0 since you quit on them griff. It's like a charm every time you do it.

I'm superstitious as hell, I know your watching, but just don't come back during the next 7 and say you are.

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      #256882 - 03/25/18 11:19 AM

Seriously, no I'm not. No interest at all.

There's really nothing entertaining or good about that team.

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      #256885 - 03/26/18 05:33 AM

Rembrandt or train wreck, put me down for entertaining.

And the D has been down right good. Somehow.

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      #256886 - 03/26/18 11:14 AM

San Jose at home and and Vegas on the road are the next two. If they gets points in both of those I MIGHT begin to believe again.

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      #256887 - 03/26/18 01:42 PM

Those are the 2 toughest they face here on out. I'd take 2 out of those 4 right now.

They'd have 10 points to still go after, and three wins would get them to 97 pts.

It's actually a crazy close to the season in the West.

If Allen keeps it up, they are as good a chance as the other 4 to get in.

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      #256891 - 03/28/18 06:14 AM

It's confirmed. Hockey is great. What a game.

STC hasn't rocked like that in a long time.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMRrNY0pxfM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

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Why don't you guys just throw your dick up on the counter and hit it with a hammer? It'll be a lot quicker then what you're about to put yourselves through.

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      #256896 - 03/29/18 08:07 AM

You and I...... miles apart.

No pain here, none coming either. Fly me to the moon.

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Bad thing bout a streak is that they always end.
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      #256909 - 04/02/18 06:47 AM

Tonite could well tell the tale

Need LA to whoop ass & the Blues sure could use a point or 2.

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      #256922 - 04/03/18 05:50 PM

Three games to go.

Not sure if they need to win two or maybe all three.

Two against the arch rival Blackhawks. The last, a potential major showdown in the Rockies on a back to back.

Win or lose, I am at ease. Eerily at ease. Love the game, love the Blues, but this team has for now brought me to the point of believing only what I actually see.

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What percentage of teams make the playoffs?

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      #256927 - 04/04/18 07:52 AM

16 of 30.

The most grueling play off in sports.

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      #256938 - 04/04/18 09:04 PM

If there is a God, Jake Allen will not be a Blue next season.

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If there is a God, Jake Allen will not be a Blue next season.






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Man, I bet it's fun to be a Blackhawk right now. You've got NOTHING to play for, but you hold the keys to a "successful" (no, the Blouse has ZERO chance of a cup) season for one of your biggest rivals.......and that rival has NO HEART.

I'd love to be them right now......playing the team that knocked them out as their best years wound down....revenge is sweet!!! All they need to do is win one against the Blouse at home to kill them off.......hey LS....you betting on the Blouse? LMAOOOOOO

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Do you know the way to San Jose?? Tonite!!!





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      #256943 - 04/05/18 09:40 AM

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Man, I bet it's fun to be a Blackhawk right now. You've got NOTHING to play for, but you hold the keys to a "successful" (no, the Blouse has ZERO chance of a cup) season for one of your biggest rivals.......and that rival has NO HEART.

I'd love to be them right now......playing the team that knocked them out as their best years wound down....revenge is sweet!!! All they need to do is win one against the Blouse at home to kill them off.......hey LS....you betting on the Blouse? LMAOOOOOO

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      #256949 - 04/05/18 02:54 PM

Nah......I was watching Wicked Tuna.

I haven't watched at all the last month.....for what? Like I said, I don't hate myself that bad anymore.

I did see that they got a little streak going and ya'll got all happy over a team that was fighting for the last playoff spot. Yippee!!!!

Maybe they can sneak in and get Nashville in the first round......that oughta make the Blouse "step up".

This version of the Note is pathetic.

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      #256950 - 04/05/18 03:41 PM

With a decent goalie, we win last night 3-1, maybe 3-0. Just decent is all.

With a decent goalie, this team would have been in 10 days ago.

Plenty of problems to go around, up and down the org, but at the top of it all is that head case. He alone lost that game, not even debatable.

And it ain't good.

As bad as last night was, and I mean bad, they win 2 they're in.

Oh, and Yeo says Allen is back in the net.

Lot's of problems.

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      #256953 - 04/05/18 05:16 PM

I wouldn't want Allen playing for the ECHL team we have on the Westside. Can you imagine being his teammate? Most nights instead of fighting the other team you'd want to kick your own goalies ass.

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      #256955 - 04/05/18 06:06 PM

Cost his whole team last night. Big time. Chit..........how many other games?? Then, in his presser, he said the whole team let down in the third.

He doesn't man up to anything.

Not one of those shots gets past a good goalie.

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Yeah, this is all Allen's fault.

Dude....only 3 teams in the West scored fewer goals than the Blouse

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      #256960 - 04/05/18 08:52 PM

Never said it was all the sieves fault. Just like it isn't all the Swedish Slugs fault. or Bymeesters.. or... But he sure isn't a #1 NHL goalie and Yeo and the Blouse management keep trying to force feed that crap, don't they?

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I was mostly referring to LS, but yeah, we have been force fed this entire mess.....and the people over here keep supporting it.

This version of the Blues sucks and it doesn't just end with Allen. In fact, it ends with Armstrong.

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I was mostly referring to LS, but yeah, we have been force fed this entire mess.....and the people over here keep supporting it.

This version of the Blues sucks and it doesn't just end with Allen. In fact, it ends with Armstrong.




Where did I say only Allens fault? I said it about the Chicago game. Then said how many other games lost on his shoulders. All true. Show me a contender with a goalie like Allen.

We've both said it before, we are not far apart on each others assessment of this team. There's plenty off and not all on the ice.

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      #256974 - 04/07/18 06:32 AM

Like Wednesday, out hit, out shot and out played the Hawks.

But this time we had a goalie.

Yeo starting Allen tonight? How in the fork is that possible? So sick of catering to this guy.

After the way they have gone this year, it's appropiate it comes down to the last game.

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I'm up in Columbus....I guess I'll watch t he Blue Jacket / Predators game.

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Looked like a microcosm of the season.

DA has a lot of work to do. I wonder if it gets done.

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Dismantle and rebuild. That is a soulless team that cannot be fixed.

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      #256986 - 04/08/18 07:28 PM

Unfortunately the re-building, re-tooling, whatever you want to call it is up to DA.. the same person that put this team together. Do you really have hope that he can and will do better? I don't.

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No, I don't. Hell, the re-signing of Berglund and keeping Allen as the #1 goalie is all you need to know about that.

The fans could be in for an extended playoff drought. I'm fine with that as long as the dead weight is gotten rid of in any way possible.....and that may mean playing a bunch of kids making the minimum......I'm good with that too because it's a good crop.

The following are not salvageable.... Allen, Burglund, Steen, Bouwmeester, Sobotka, Jaskin, and Upshall. Pietrangelo must lose the C at minimum. Tarasenko needs to be put on the market to see what he may bring......he's another forking head case.

Firing Armstrong should come before any of the above but I don't see it happening.

Dismantle and rebuild.....nothing else is acceptable.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #256989 - 04/09/18 09:14 AM

Allen has to go. Period. Another DA mistake that will cost the Blues to rid themselves of him.

Berglund and Sobotka might be movable. Need to do it.

I can live with Steen on the third line, you can only dump so many bad contracts in a year so he's gonna be back anyway.

It's a good D they have, but a chip may have to go to get the front better.

For sake of creativity, DA should consider anybody else on this team but Schwartz to be in play.

But in the end, it's still DA finger printing the "new" Blues. This makes little sense unless he is willing to fess up.

Last thing is how ready Kyrou and Thomas and Husso are to come up. I am skeptical of the Blues evaluation of these guys because of all of Army's contracts in place blocking their path.

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      #256990 - 04/09/18 09:19 AM

DA will survive and I don't understand it. At a minimum he must have pictures of the ownership buck ass nekkid dressed like Marcellus Washington in the basement with a transgender hooker, a donkey and Hilary Clinton (possible redundant).

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      #256991 - 04/09/18 11:47 AM

I still can't believe that mf'er signed Allen a year before he had to.

And Stillman should have waited too. He took the cheese and signed DA before the year played out.

Keep in mind, both of those premature signings were for a franchise that had repeatedly done what they just did again.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #256993 - 04/09/18 12:11 PM

Wait, what? Is the season over already? What happened?

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      #256994 - 04/09/18 12:24 PM

Yep.....seems they couldn't make it into the playoffs under the leadership of the first-rate hockey man, Doug Armstrong.

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      #257000 - 04/10/18 09:43 AM

He's just lining things up for next year. Or is it the year after?

Look on the bright side, your new team is looking good for a run at the Cup. You can rush down to Music City and give them piles of your monies...

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      #257003 - 04/10/18 01:25 PM

Fork the Preds. Whiners and divers. Fork them. And half those idiot fans wouldn't know a hockey puck after it hit them in the face.

Here's to the Preds going down. And I don't care how.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #257005 - 04/10/18 03:31 PM

I don't give a rip who wins the cup...but I'm getting ready to watch a lot of good hockey for a change!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #257006 - 04/10/18 04:18 PM

Anymore, this is the only hockey that's worth a fork to watch. The NHL has managed to fork up the regular season so bad, it's painful to watch. The scheduling must be done by some of the NHL executives, grade school-age kids or grandkids. And the regular season officiating on and off the ice would have to improve to rise to the level of just bad. It is just horrific...

Why the fork can't they officiate the regular season like the playoffs? Watching playoff games is the way hockey is supposed to be played. Fork all of those ticky-tacky penalties and the idiotic calls from 100 feet away by the ref across the ice. Let s the boys play and sort it out themselves.

Too bad the Blues aren't in it. This is Berglund's time to shine with all that hard-nosed play in front of the net and grinding in the corners and along the boards... Oh, wait... Never mind.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #257008 - 04/10/18 04:24 PM

West I go anybody but Turdville. Vegas or the Jets I can deal with. I know, 2 more teams who would get it first before the Blues but it is what it is.

I like Toronto or Tampa in the East. Toronto would go beserk if they could pull it off but Tampa, Pitt and Boston will be formidable opposition to get through.

If it's April, it's hockey.

On a sad note, hard not to think of that tragedy up in Saskatoon. 16 kids and all that pain. Dang.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #257009 - 04/10/18 06:35 PM

I think I'm gonna go with Boston...they lit it up better than any team in the 2nd half. I'd like to see the Bruins and Preds in the final....and I'd like to see Boston kick their arse. Anybody but the Penguins....I still hate them from back in the today and I always will.

And yeah....the bus crash....geez. My kid is on a team bus every single weekend traveling the country.....there are no words for something that tragic. I can't even imagine that pain.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #257021 - 04/14/18 08:43 PM

You know LS....Toronto could possibly beat Boston.

Did you actually watch any hockey besides the pretenders we had here?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #257024 - 04/15/18 01:00 PM

Sup , ninjas?
Ive been gone for a few weeks. What did I miss , LS??

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I cant believe LS would leave me hanging...

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      #257038 - 04/18/18 04:02 PM

I guess a guy can't get away a few days rather than baby sit this dump.

Meanwhile Bubba, apparently you can go away for weeks at a time and then want supper at six. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

As for Toronto, I never PREDICTED dude. I said I liked them as a team and see the city as a true hockey town unsurpassed by any other.....didn't say they were a power house that should win it all. It may not be this year, but they have some good chit goin on there.

You want the odds on? I guess it's Pens and Preds. There you go. Now pardon me while I puke.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #257056 - 04/24/18 05:42 AM

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You know LS....Toronto could possibly beat Boston.

Did you actually watch any hockey besides the pretenders we had here?




Any more great insight to offer?

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Best game I've seen of the play offs so far.

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      #257058 - 04/24/18 02:34 PM

They are the 2017 Blouse....they'll be out tomorrow.

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      #257059 - 04/24/18 05:03 PM

Yeah, maybe. 3-3 last time I checked and better than you gave them.

Like I said, that team will be going places and I like their style.

Fork Boston anyway. Sure before Pitt or Wash or Turdville, but that isn't saying much.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #257060 - 04/24/18 11:31 PM

Dude.....they have Gagcock for a coach.....I hate that mofo. Biggest whiner in the league. Not surprising you're rooting for them.

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      #257064 - 04/25/18 08:30 PM

LS - when do you think you'll be right about ANYTHING this season?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #257065 - 04/26/18 05:49 AM

Never predicted them to win that series.

I do believe I said fork Boston, and that won't change for next series either.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #257068 - 04/26/18 08:49 AM

Yeah, I notice you always leave yourself that out....didn't predict the Blouse would be good, didn't predict the Leafs would win, blah,blah,blah.

Let me reiterate.....the Blouse SUCK and will not make the playoffs, Babcock SUCKS and the Leafs won't beat Boston, and Boston is a force right now. I'd like to see Backes carrying the cup and I think he may finally get there since he shed the note.

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      #257069 - 04/26/18 12:05 PM

Fork the Bruins, Pens and Turds. I don't give a chit what "force" they are. Fork them.

And yeah, you got my predictions there right. I'm a fan of the Blues and will always wish them the best. It ain't that difficult to understand.

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      #257099 - 05/02/18 05:21 PM

Forkin Subban a finalist for the Norris.

What a forkin joke.

Faker, diver, whiner.............Pred through and through.

I'd take Josi over that drama queen faker any day. I hope somehow Byfuglien takes him out for good.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #257100 - 05/02/18 06:32 PM

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I hope somehow Byfuglien takes him out for good.




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      #257103 - 05/03/18 07:28 AM

WaaaWaaaaWaaaaaa

Join the forkin club whiner.

https://www.tsn.ca/predators-unhappy-over-game-3-officiating-1.1074004

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      #257106 - 05/06/18 05:06 PM

Damn......the Lightning are big and FAST.....I had no idea.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #257107 - 05/06/18 05:40 PM

Backes found that out when he got smacked and did a "canvasback"

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      #257108 - 05/07/18 05:46 AM

bwaaaaaa.....looks like the "force" got whooped 4 in a row.

Now let's knock off the turds and the pens and all is well.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #257109 - 05/07/18 09:31 AM

The Stanley cup to TAMPA BAY??? Hell no!!

I'd rather see it in Vegas.

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      #257111 - 05/07/18 12:02 PM

Great team. They got a leader too.

Once the Turds go down the Cup run will be as it should be.

I really like the Jets, then Vegas.(#57 anybody? bwaaaa)

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      #257117 - 05/07/18 05:18 PM

See what you did LS? You forking happy now???

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(#57 anybody? bwaaaa)




Nice try.....but you got the numbers out of order. Fork David Perrenial loser.

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      #257119 - 05/08/18 05:27 AM

I didn't do chit and neither did the Jets.

Back to Trashville so Kerry Underwood can lead all those great hockey fans to make some noise.

I fully expect the turds to win. How's that?

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      #257129 - 05/11/18 05:40 AM

Took the trash out last night.

What a beautiful morning.

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      #257132 - 05/11/18 10:49 AM

Oh boy!!! What a lineup!!

Winnipeg
Washington
Tampa Bay
Vegas



I can't stand watching Statzny, Perron, or Oshie so it looks like I'm out.

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dude...dont let the door hit ya on yer way out





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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
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Oh boy!!! What a lineup!!

Winnipeg
Washington
Tampa Bay
Vegas



I can't stand watching Statzny, Perron, or Oshie so it looks like I'm out.

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I thought you just hated watching a hockey team with no heart? As far as I can tell you won't see that with any of these teams! Is it maybe because your beloved Preds got beat? At home..in a game 7.. in a blowout? Sounds like the Preds might have a heart issue..

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Dude....I'm NOT a Predators fan....although I am a big Nashville fan. Great town, non-stop party. (and a good rink to watch a game)

My team this year was Boston. They're out, I'm out.

Statsny and Oshie and Perron yourself on!!!!

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      #257143 - 05/13/18 05:27 PM

Haha......so a few players keep you from watching the next 20 games?

And that tongue licking weirdo on the Bruins? That dude passes your test? bwaaaaaaaaaaaa

Dude......whatever. Really strange logic but hey, you're out.

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      #257145 - 05/13/18 07:58 PM

Dude....I put up with you window lickers, why would I care who Marchand licks?

I'll take him over any LW on the Blouse roster any day.

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      #257171 - 05/20/18 10:26 AM

So hopefully, another epic collapse/fail from the Caps is in the making.

As much as I'd like the Jets to do it, they have their work cut out for themselves, just a huge gaffe by Bufuglien that cost them that last game.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #257177 - 05/21/18 07:51 AM

Reaves scoring the winning goal to propel Vegas to the Cup finals is yet another dagger in the heart of Blues fans...

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #257179 - 05/21/18 09:42 AM

I think that was great. Awesome tip, Reavo has to be on cloud nine.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #257181 - 05/21/18 12:35 PM

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I think that was great. Awesome tip, Reavo has to be on cloud nine.




He's been there since he got out of St. Louis and away from the nuthouse.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #257182 - 05/21/18 01:23 PM

Pretty sure that was a special goal that goes beyond your sarcasm. Unlike you, he liked hockey here, quite a bit actually.

There's a chance he comes back but that goal may have made him a Knight for years to come.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #257183 - 05/21/18 03:53 PM



The only guy who wanted to come back to the Blouse was just trying to get out of the KHL and couldn't go anywhere else after arbitration.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #257209 - 05/29/18 06:28 AM

How bout that for game #1? Holy chit!!

How was that nba game you watched griff?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #257210 - 05/29/18 09:42 AM

I actually did watch the game, and yeah, holy chit! It also goes to show just how far away the Blouse is to contending for the Cup.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #257212 - 05/29/18 12:26 PM

It goes to show you apparently can't quit watching enough times. bwaaaaaaaaaa

Knights aren't going to lay down and miss their opportunities like the Bolts did.

Who knows but the "misfits" still have some game, eh?

Fork the Caps.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #257216 - 05/29/18 06:40 PM

Yeah, it turns out I can't quit watching good hockey. I thought it was hockey in general....but it turns out I just can't watch a franchise that takes advantage of it's fans, and players that lay down. Who knew?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: griffin]
      #257251 - 06/07/18 04:32 PM

Whelp, the Knights have fallen down the last two games, arguably three. I get the firepower, the marquee names of the Caps and now the media adding Oshie to the banner. I get it.

But the Knight have NOT played up to their season these past few. Perhaps the fuel is gone, the dream is over.

But gimme the win tonight. Let's go back to Washington. Let's play another big game.

The Preds are out so I'm basically happy. But I mean....fork the Caps. And fork Oshie too.

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #257252 - 06/08/18 05:31 AM

4-0 SWEEP

It is June

But that won't stop the Never Ending Season eh?

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: wuchang]
      #257253 - 06/08/18 06:20 AM

Love the long season. Best playoffs in sports!

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: last_stand]
      #257254 - 06/08/18 08:08 AM

It's over

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Re: 2017-2018 STL BLOUSE [Re: sptsman]
      #257258 - 06/11/18 07:03 AM

Told y'all you should keep Oshie!!

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