wuchang
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They need a steady, reliable, solid bat. A 26 or 28 year-old Matt Holliday. Stanton is a cartoon character. He may hit 50 HR's or he may get hurt and hit 15-20. Either way the Cardinals can't take gambles like him. I think the Stanton talk is silly. I, for one, hope they don't get him. The initial price will be high and the long term price could be crippling for more than a year or two.
If they're going to pay that kind of jack, go the free agent route. Then you only get hurt on the financial side and not on the depth chart side as well. How about J.D. Martinez or Eric Hosmer? Hosmer would be the perfect fit to end the revolving door at 1st base and he's still under 30.
I'm glad I'm not the GM of the Cardinals!! then again, I'm not sure any other GM in MLB has as much "help" as a Cards GM does. Lot's of opinions... 
Sums it up pretty well
If they had not screwed Piscotty up with trying to make him into Grichuk--- who knows
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Cardinals added a middle of the order bat at the Marlins fire sale. Ozuna is a good all around player and I think StL fans will appreciate him.
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Agree.
But still don't know what we gave up.
He fits real good into any lineup and a gold glove is getting back to what this franchise used to be about.
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Pretty cool story.
And yes, I do like that dress.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/...D29693696BC6801
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Far from a perfect off season but I'll say this...........................they needed to move Grichuk and Piscotty and they did.
Now the closer thing.............................. WTF is that?
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On the one hand, the Cards may have locked up their shortstop with a steal.
On the other, the hand I have seen too much of lately, that ss's head might grow to the size of a basketball while he counts his money and see's his game go to hell.
I like this kid. A lot. But it may have been best for both to wait a year.
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wuchang
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They are saying the same things about him that they were saying about Piscotty before the Cards screwed up his swing.
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A very inauspicious start for both of the MoMo teams...
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fastman
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Fork the cards...they'll not git 1 mo dime of my money.
No heart mofos & cain't hit. pitch. r catch.
Might as well clean house and start ova from the top.
That freakin manager has got to go.7 years of him has ruined a once gr8 franchise.
Over paid primadonnas can KMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Edited by fastman (04/02/18 06:48 AM)
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fastman
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Ozuna & Weaver & that young flamethrower can stay.ship the rest 
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You might give it another game or two before you burn the barn down Eddie.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
But you're dead on about Matheney. Good thing is, if he doesn't make post season this year I do think they'll move on.
It's a pretty good line up at the plate if they just do what they are capable of. The D still has some issues at first and third and the starting pitching has a lot of wood to chop before they can be counted on.
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ok dude....two more games and thats it
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So magic Mike uses Hicks Monday night back to back for 2 innings, brings him into a 8-4 leading game.
Then last night, as the bullpen fails and his closer goes to 25 pitches Hicks is unavailable because he wasted him on the 4 run lead outing.
This is 101 chit we are talking about.
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So magic Mike uses Hicks Monday night back to back for 2 innings, brings him into a 8-4 leading game.
Then last night, as the bullpen fails and his closer goes to 25 pitches Hicks is unavailable because he wasted him on the 4 run lead outing.
This is 101 chit we are talking about.
Preachin to the choir bro
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Hope Hicks won't need Tommy John by June
Never have understood why Matheny,Beloved Leader of Men, carries 8 relievers and only uses 3 of them.
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Hope Hicks won't need Tommy John by June
Never have understood why Matheny,Beloved Leader of Men, carries 8 relievers and only uses 3 of them.
Typically 5 of the 8 in the penshohkd be at AA ball or retired. Mo seems to like the washed up players or ones who oversign a contract. We haven’t had a solid pen full of good pitchers in forever.
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My question..........with low to mid 70 mph curves. Stuff boring at sub 70 mph, barely 81 mph breaking balls, and a fastball that starts off in the upper 80’s and by 70 pitches in is closer to the low 80’s........how long before Waino is retired?? Dude doesn’t have the control like a Greg Maddox to throw mid 80’s and spot pitches low and work a count. He tosses BP down the heart of the plate and up in the zone. 90+ pitches and he doesn’t even make 4 innings........and everyone wonders why the bullpen is worn the fork out. Time to retire to middle relief.......or maybe just retire
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I thought he'd be a dude who knew when to say when too.
Not sure how many innings Flagherty can do this year but for now they need to be done up here more than down there.
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sptsman
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At $19.5 million, he's not going anywhere. Best fans can hope for is a season ending injury and that's not really a long shot, with his history. As long as he's healthy, Matheny will keep running him out there. It's a sad situation... A worn-out pitcher making $19.5 mil and a mediocre to poor Manager that has a man crush on him...
I often wonder what percentage of players would walk away from $19 mil or even $1 mil because they know they can't live up to it? Guys like Pujols, Waino, Howard, etc... My guess is less than 1%. First, most people are driven by the almighty dollar. Even guys like these that have more money than they ever dreamed of having can't get enough. Having $200 or $300 mil or more in the bank just isn't enough when there is more for the taking... Second, I think guys like these rationalize that they earned it and deserve it. They see past performance as justification for taking obscene amounts of money for piss poor performance today. And finally, I think most of them think they can still play. Don't bother them with reality, they can still get it done. "Just wait and see what I do tomorrow..." Did anyone watch the Spring Training interviews with Waino? Was there ever a fading, worn-out pitcher so cork of himself?
Great guy and some great memories but as Ferris Bueller said... It's over...
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So, I watched the game last night to the bitter end. In the top of the 10th, was there even one person in the stadium and the entire TV viewing audience that couldn't see Holland wasn't ready and was in big trouble? I can see letting him pitch to the 2nd batter, maybe. But letting him pitch to any more after that is a level of stupidity that is immeasurable. This team isn't all that great to begin with. Having a sub-par Manager is going to make this a very long and painful year...
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fastman
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Yer prolly right sports dude.
Always mushrooms & crappie & bluegills & bass I hope.
Come on Spring. Get here & stay.
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I predict all three (or four) by Monday evening... 
Should be a bounty of shrooms by Friday. Crappie are already biting and a turkey should die Monday...
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Now we get to see if the Cards can compete with a real baseball team. The 14-6 NY Mets for three games. I suspect Matheny will cost them at least one of these games with some bonehead move...
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Like last night???
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Like last night???
Tuesday's loss was 95% on Matheny (again). Should have pulled Weaver before he gave up the dinger. What part about "He doesn't have it tonight" does Matheny not understand? You carry 37 pitchers and fail to see that the most critical part of the game may come in the 4th or 5th inning. He was not having a good night and had just walked two. So, when one of the best hitters in the game comes to the plate, how about putting in a pitcher that has a prayer of getting him out or at least controlling the damage. And don't get me started on the bottom of the 9th. A forkin' little league coach knows the game is over if you can just get that man on 2nd base across the plate. So what gives you the best odds of that happening?
Matheny is just not a big league manger. In fact, I'm not so sure I'd want him as the skipper on any level team. Don't they have a spot for him somewhere in the organization where Mo and the DeWitt's can still have their man-crush on him, without him costing them MLB games every few weeks?
He sure shined last night, didn't he?
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