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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: H2ODOG]
      #253116 - 07/29/16 04:58 PM

I wasn't saying we NEED a starter dawg. I was just stating that if one gets injured, we go to Lyons. That's it. I happen to think Lyons is a hell of a lot more than chopped liver too. He is quite valuable in long relief.

Before the rain out last week and we had to play the Dbl Header and a #6, the Cardinals were the only team in baseball to have used the same 5 starter for every game. I know the value. I also know about Cardinal pitching injuries that seem about as regular as Bubba's daily constitution.

Get Carp back and go with Garcia, Alydmes, Wong and Gyorko on the infield. Leave Peralta on the stretcher for all I care.That guy fell down big time last fall when we needed him most.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: last_stand]
      #253130 - 08/03/16 04:07 PM

Very rapidly losing confidence in Matheny. 5 years on the job and he is still making rookie manager mistakes. Can anyone honestly say they have confidence that he is going out maneuver the opposing manager on any given night? But all of that is secondary to him being at the helm of the sloppiest, worst defensive team of my lifetime. And that doesn't even account for the poor base running and poor at bats in key situations... This team is just hard to watch. Not sure how players get paid millions to do one thing, play baseball, and can't seem to eliminate the foolish mistakes that you wouldn't tolerate on your U-14 boys team...

If you took this team and didn't change one thing other than eliminating the piss poor play in the field, they would be a 90+ win team, assured of a wild card spot and possibly challenging the Cubs for the Division. As it is, they will be darn lucky to get a Wild card spot and if they do, their odds in the playoffs aren't very good with that kind of undisciplined, sloppy, error-pron play. My goodness, how freakin' hard it is to know what base to throw to, what base to cover, what base to back-up? How hard is it to know who should have priority on hit balls? How hard is it to know that you NEVER make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd base?!?!? How hard is it to know to take a pitch or two, late in the game when you're down a run or two and the opposing pitcher just walked the guy in front of you? And what are the consequences from this Manager when all of these bonehead moves and many more occur?

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: sptsman]
      #253133 - 08/04/16 04:55 PM

ok.from the bottom up...a schrade folder

prolly caint add

never say never

it isnt

im sure some of um never played lil league

Matheney sux 4 sure......the way i c it.....is that fact that most players must like him and there4 will play pretty hard ( not smart granted ) .

I like the effort most games.
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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: fastman]
      #253140 - 08/07/16 12:44 PM



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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: Bubba]
      #253145 - 08/08/16 10:57 AM

Too bad we traded Shelby Miller for a worthless outfielder......we could use Miller right now.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: H2ODOG]
      #253146 - 08/08/16 12:56 PM

miller is in the minors right now... he sucks as bad as heyward

weren't you at the game when the starting pitcher had half of the team's two hits and the only rbi??

that's part of the forkin problem..

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: HAUS]
      #253147 - 08/08/16 06:36 PM

Ya I was there. Garcia had 11k's and had to be the offense for the night. Having Moss and Carp go down didn't help. It got them out of sync. Diaz out of the lineup is a huge negative. The entire team has no consistency from top to bottom. Holliday needs to just hang it up after this season.

Watching them nightly will make a man drink a lot.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: H2ODOG]
      #253148 - 08/08/16 09:44 PM

Quote:

H2ODOG said:
Watching them nightly will make a man drink a lot.




True this

But they must have got a new shipment of pixie dust after tonight's comeback in the 9th


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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: wuchang]
      #253176 - 08/12/16 11:42 AM

See Andy's post above about fundamentals

Brain freeze is a terrible thing to see and let the Cubs back into the game

Game in about 30 minutes--

Hope that they can shake the loss off because I am not sure I can take more of last night


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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: wuchang]
      #253177 - 08/12/16 02:29 PM

Today ain't much better..
Neither new money or old money is very good this year..

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: IIFID]
      #253179 - 08/12/16 07:52 PM

Pitiful

Just pitiful

Without the goofy second wild card............


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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: IIFID]
      #253181 - 08/13/16 03:52 PM

Well new money is for sure sucking ass. Below .500. No where near a playoff spot. 3rd or 4th in their weak division.......and we all know how playing in a weak ass division will cause other fans to say how you can't hang anywhere else.


Old money is in 2nd place. Should make the playoffs. Battling for the wildcard spot. Lots of key injuries to starters keeping us farther back in division and WC race. Old money can get hot and do something in the playoffs. New money won't be in the playoffs if they get hot

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: H2ODOG]
      #253183 - 08/14/16 06:37 AM

They must have got a new supply of pixie dust

Whupped the cubbies pretty convincingly

Wonder what the Chitcago press is writing about the 'genius' Maddon this morning?

Best part--we moved 1/2 game up in that goofy WC

Baseball Prospectus says the Birds have a 51.4% shot at getting in the playoffs

Our neighbors to the west chances?????

If you just have to know

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: wuchang]
      #253185 - 08/14/16 09:11 AM



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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: H2ODOG]
      #253191 - 08/14/16 04:42 PM

Wu, I already know the bad news. Seeing it almost every night. What with the injuries we have had and both the starting and relieving pitching goin south I doubt we have any chance at even the wild card. But still not a bandwagon jumper. Crap happens.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: H2ODOG]
      #253192 - 08/14/16 04:43 PM

Card game on ESPN tonight--

may be a KMOX night


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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: wuchang]
      #253195 - 08/15/16 06:02 AM

Cards 6-4
Bop Baby Bears with long ball

Chitago press is singing like they just lost the Series even though cubbies have a 12 game lead in the division.


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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: wuchang]
      #253196 - 08/15/16 07:47 AM

Piscotty looked pretty pumped up after smashing that ball

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: H2ODOG]
      #253198 - 08/15/16 01:16 PM

Every time I talk this team up they chit in their pants for a week.

I will say this, maybe repeating myself, but my dream is to somehow someway face them cubs in the 5 game round 1 series.

And I don't care what they say in Chicago about how great the cubs are or Madden this or Madden that. Deep down the Cardinals will be the last team they wanna face out of all of 'em. And the last 2 games are a good reminder why.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: last_stand]
      #253203 - 08/15/16 04:45 PM

Preach on Brutha.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: Bubba]
      #253209 - 08/17/16 06:17 AM

Saw Reyes for the first time last night.

Very raw still but dayum that ball comes off his hand like a shot from a cannon. Very different look than other fastball pitchers and I think it messes with the batters head.

Two impressive outings against two good teams. Hope he can keep this up and control his game.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: last_stand]
      #253211 - 08/17/16 07:31 AM

Moss 1B
Diaz 2nd when he gets back
Gyroko SS
Carpenter 3rd
Pisscottt RF
Grichuk CF
Pham LF
Molina C

Go with that lineup for the best bars with the most pop and it takes us to the playoffs. Holliday needs to just retire. Hazelbaker and Moss can rotate into the OF with Adam's at first.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: H2ODOG]
      #253212 - 08/17/16 08:44 AM

Agree. And I don't want Holiday back this year. MM will put him in and he will fail coming back, just like last Fall.

Cards owe Rizzo or Bryant a high one to the ribs too. MM should have done already.

For now:

Moss at first, Carp 2nd, Garcia ss, Gyroko 3rd

Pham Piscotty RG in OF

Now go sit down Johnny. We'll need you off the bench

on edit dawg, not sure about gyroko at ss.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: last_stand]
      #253213 - 08/17/16 03:11 PM

I meant to put Diaz at SS and Gyroko at 2nd

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: H2ODOG]
      #253214 - 08/17/16 04:26 PM

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I meant to put Diaz at SS and Gyroko at 2nd




Much better


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