| H2ODOG |
| (the one who never tires) |
| 12/15/15 02:11 AM |
Re: 2016 STL Cardinals
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last_stand said:
I didn't know Gonzalez was a free agent. So now you're trading for him, not so simple.
You want Holiday in left over Gordon have at it. So does Matheney. Holiday has one more year left and he's gone. He can't play first any worse than he does left imo. Gordon or Upton coming on fills in that position nicely if you ask me.... for half the money of Heyward and the next few years forward.
I have no problem with counting on Piscotty and Grichuk, but yes, they are not proven top half players....yet. There is risk.
As for Davis, Mo has supposedly ruled that out. Or so he says.
Anyway, according to Mo NONE of this is happening aside from obtaining a pitcher and non budget busting position players.
I'll wait and see where it all goes when the dust settles. I still say he goes for one big position player.
I didn't realize it was so tuff to trade for an outfielder. Who knew it was so hard????????
Go back 7 years and compare Holliday and Gordon.......who do you think has played in more games? I'll let you in on a secret. Its not the KC guy. Hell go back 9 years for the entire career of Gordon. Holliday has still played in more games.
Gordon missed 1/3 of last year. 2009 he missed 70% of the games. 2010 55% of the games. You want to get a guy who has missed significant time in 1/3 of his MLB career. Holliday missed a lot of games last year for his leg. In 2011 he missed games for the same injury, but roughly 20 games. 2013 another 15 days for a quad. I'll still take a guy who has missed less time and is a bigger bat over a guy who has missed more time that Holliday, with a weaker bat. We missed offense last year. Holliday gives the lineup more pop.
You act like Holliday gives is a huge liablity in the field. Dude has had 21 errors in LF while wearing a Caridnals uniform. 7 years of playing and 21 errors. Not a huge number. Sure its not the GG winning numbers of Gordon, who had 11 errors in 6 seasons. I won't even list his infield numbers, because Gordon sucked at 3rd.
Upton gives you more at the plate than Gordon, but makes Holliday look like a Platinum Glove Winner in the field. Upgrade the pitching, and get another guy at first. Worry about filling the outfield next season or mid year at the trade deadline.