i have been combing youtube and came across a couple videos of folks talking about KEH for buying used gear, so i checked em out and found the rig i purchased.

a bit of a risk, but i bought a "bargain" rated body and "ugly" rated lens, but they'll let you send it back for free within 21 days and both are warrantied for 180 days, so I'll see how "bad they are when they arrive.
From the handful of videos I had watched, the people who ordered "ugly" said their equipment was in fantastic condition, aside from normal wear, so i thought it was worth it on this first go-round.

i got the camera, battery, charger and lens for under $600 (free shipping too). Supposed to arrive today already so I'll see what the shutter count is and report back on the condition of everything.