| last_stand |
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| 07/10/13 11:16 PM |
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Perron shipped out to Edmonton for a 22 year old LW and a second round draft pick next year.
Magnus Paajarvi, another Sweede, is our new winger. They say bigger, faster, tougher and more of a go to the net guy. He was drafted 10th in 09. Much of his attraction is in POTENTIAL, a familiar phrase indeed down on Clark Street.
I wish Perron well but I am not surprised he was traded. Blues really had to do something with the current lineup and Roy/Paajarvi, while not super stars, just may be what this team needs to get the hell deep in the playoffs.
As always, for 45 years now, GO BLUE.
| Bubba |
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| 07/10/13 11:40 PM |
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Ninja , please.....
| sptsman |
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| 07/11/13 12:13 PM |
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Good move, to be sure. Pre-concussion, Perron would have fetched more in return but this was a pretty good deal nonetheless. Aside from the salary cap benefits, I wouldn't be surprised if this deal had a little of Hitchcock's fingerprints on it. The Blues needed to get a litle bigger and a little tougher, in the corners and in front of the net.
Perron needs a new environment. By all accounts he seems like a good dude that wants to succeed. Hopefully, the Oilers will be the right fit for him.
I'm not sure about a Cup but they damn sure need to go further than the first round in 2014...
Go Blue!!
| last_stand |
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| 07/11/13 04:39 PM |
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Reading the boards in Edmonton it seems a good 60-40 they like trade. Quite a few like the trade BUT they recognize Paajrvi had a much better second half than first and they are wondering if the Oilers are giving up on him too soon.
Blues had to move salary. Teams were not lined up to give us super stars anyway. This is probably the best DA could do and we get the 2nd round pick and the POTENTIAL for a steal with MP.
One thing, contrary to the first things I read......the fans up there are saying he is not super physical and he does not clog in the net.
Gonna be a different look next year. I think it's all for the better. Thing is, are we really staying pat with Halak and Elliott??
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| 07/18/13 02:09 PM |
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I think they are legitimately hoping the copetition between them and Allen will bring forth a legtimate goalie for the season. I also think they might have trouble moving one of them. Other GM's are fully aware of what we know...
In a perfect world, Elliott plays like we saw he is capable of, Allen backs him up and Halak gets traded.
| last_stand |
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| 09/06/13 09:01 PM |
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We open camp without Petro??
Both groups are working on it. The Blues are right to be careful but it is most likely in their interest to get something done long term.
Will be interesting to see where DA ends up on this.
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| 09/07/13 11:33 AM |
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They had to lower their offer to pay Hull. That won't end well...
Fortunately, Petro can't really go anywhere and a prolonged holdout isn't in his best interest. I suspect he will be in the fold in the next week or two.
The bigger concern that we'll never really know is if DA is being hamstrung due to limited finances with this ownership group. We keep being told that is not the case but I'm not convinced. Only time will tell...
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| 09/07/13 07:53 PM |
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Go Blue...
| last_stand |
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| 09/07/13 08:38 PM |
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They had to lower their offer to pay Hull. That won't end well...
Fortunately, Petro can't really go anywhere and a prolonged holdout isn't in his best interest. I suspect he will be in the fold in the next week or two.
The bigger concern that we'll never really know is if DA is being hamstrung due to limited finances with this ownership group. We keep being told that is not the case but I'm not convinced. Only time will tell...
Not a fan of hiring Hull. At all. I sure hope they aren't paying him for 40 hours cuzz he won't be there to do it.
And what am I missing about new owners not bucking up??
They had to move Perron for CAP SPACE knowing Petro had to be signed.
We haven't had a cap move in some time.
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| 10/04/13 10:22 AM |
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1-0.
Now that's how you start a season off.
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| 10/04/13 11:40 AM |
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Good start, to be sure. The intensity was there and overall the team looked good. The "D" looked a little disjointed at times but that is to be expected early in the year.
So far, so good...
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| 10/04/13 11:42 AM |
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Oh yeah, I was very disappointed to see Backes wearing the "C". He's not Captain material....
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| 10/07/13 10:43 PM |
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7-0??? 7 DIFFERENT goal scorers??? WTF? Are they that good.. is Florida that bad.. or was it just one of those nights?
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7-0??? 7 DIFFERENT goal scorers??? WTF? Are they that good.. is Florida that bad.. or was it just one of those nights?
I think it is a combination of both. Florida was not at their best and isn't going to be a great defensive team, even when they are. They have some firepower up front but they really aren't a great team.
The Blues are really deep. They may have the best #3 and #4 lines in the league but they have been lacking a premier goal scorer or two for the last few years. If one or two of the goal scorers on this team can take it to the next level, this team could compete for the Cup ... Schwartz? Tarasenko? Backes or Berglund finally?
Go Blue!!
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| 10/08/13 10:32 AM |
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Oh yeah, I was very disappointed to see Backes wearing the "C". He's not Captain material....
uhhhhhhh......yes, he is.
As for the Panther whoopin it was fun to see but time will tell on just how good this team and Jaro Halak really are.
And there is plenty of time left to do it.
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| 10/09/13 09:20 PM |
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Hated arch rivals in town tonight. They drop the puck about 5 minutes after the first pitch on 4th street.
Keeping up is gonna be pure hell I tell ya.
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| 10/10/13 01:06 PM |
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I was flipping back and forth between the Note game and the Cards. Fun night to be a fan of sports in the Lou! Flipped back just in time to see the game winner by Steen. How do you allow a 3 on 1 with 25 seconds left in the game? Sounds like something the Blues used to do! LOL Go Blues!
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| 10/10/13 02:25 PM |
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Man the Hawks are good. We played with them for about 40 minutes but good thing it was the last 40 minutes.
Great win by the good guys. It's a long season but they all count.
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| 10/16/13 10:26 AM |
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From the little I saw of it last night, that game looked like fido's butt.
And is Lapierre the right guy for us? We need to be a little meaner, and he is that, but is he the right guy or is he just a run of the mill dirty player?
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| 10/16/13 01:45 PM |
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Apparently, for the 4 guys that watched and the Post guy who recorded it... the blue notes got their arse handed to them.
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| 10/18/13 10:52 AM |
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And that followed by the best game of the year. On the Road. Agin you know who.
Please please play like this in March!!
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| 10/18/13 03:47 PM |
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And to think I watched High school soccer instead!
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| 11/20/13 11:35 PM |
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Well we had the stinker on Sunday and the magic came back Tuesday night.
The Blues are really rolling........it's hard to complain about the front 6 on any of the lines.
I still am not sold on Halak. I hope he's the guy good enough to not cost us.....to play solid.....for the year. He's done well so far on the win column but man he still loses his focus too often for me to buy in. And it's early yet.
And Backes, our CAPTAIN, with 20 points. And still the hits and energy. Not too shabby, eh sportsmn?
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| 11/21/13 01:46 AM |
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They are hitting on most cylinders on most nights. I think it is the most talented team they have had that I remember. Seem to have grit as well. Some depth too. Can they make it to the finals? I still have my doubts but they are fun to watch.
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| 11/21/13 10:23 AM |
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I never said he wasn't a very good player. For his talent and size, he should be a great player. In the past he has been inconsistent and has been a playoff disaster with dumb penalties and poor leadership, as a Captain.
I contend that Backes would be best suited with no "C" on his sweater. Maybe an "A" but preferably not. Like it or not he is just not a leader. He's the typical "dumb jock". Tons of talent and should be scoring 30+ goals a year on a top line. Put the "C" on him and he has too much to worry about. Not to mention that he doesn't know how to be a an effective leader. Watch the last two years of playoffs. Those Blues teams were steamrolled and they looked lost after the first period of the first game against the Kings (both years). The guy just isn't "C" material, he just isn't.
If they want to win the cup, they'll just have to overcome having a "C" that isn't a very good "C".
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| 11/21/13 03:17 PM |
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So we lost the last two playoff series in particular because of Backes being our Captain.(this is laughable)
But if we win a Stanley Cup with him as Captain, or even if we go deep, it will be in spite of him.
Got it.
And it doesn't matter he's on track for 80 points. Points don't matter. But oh btw, he should have 30 goals a year.
Got it.
Dumb jock, too much to worry about, not a leader......You think there's one guy on the team that thinks this? We have a Captain who has no respect from his team mates? How do you make this chit up?
Backes wasn't born to be a Captain. Funny thing is he wasn't born to be a #1 center either. But the Blues have assigned him to both of those challenges. They were lucky to have him available. Two years ago, can you tell me who should have been made captain?
Sure there are marquee guys out there on other teams wearing their C. Guys with points, Cups and big names. Backes doesn't quite have those credentials yet and maybe he's not a perfect fit but the point is he's getting there.
IMO, the guy is highly under rated in this town. From people like you. Funny thing is, around the league, none of the #1 centers want to play against him. Wonder why that is.
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So we lost the last two playoff series in particular because of Backes being our Captain.(this is laughable)
But if we win a Stanley Cup with him as Captain, or even if we go deep, it will be in spite of him.
Got it.
And it doesn't matter he's on track for 80 points. Points don't matter. But oh btw, he should have 30 goals a year.
Got it.
Dumb jock, too much to worry about, not a leader......You think there's one guy on the team that thinks this? We have a Captain who has no respect from his team mates? How do you make this chit up?
Backes wasn't born to be a Captain. Funny thing is he wasn't born to be a #1 center either. But the Blues have assigned him to both of those challenges. They were lucky to have him available. Two years ago, can you tell me who should have been made captain?
Sure there are marquee guys out there on other teams wearing their C. Guys with points, Cups and big names. Backes doesn't quite have those credentials yet and maybe he's not a perfect fit but the point is he's getting there.
IMO, the guy is highly under rated in this town. From people like you. Funny thing is, around the league, none of the #1 centers want to play against him. Wonder why that is.
What straw man you've built up there. And you knocked him down with such authority!!
Made some pretty big leaps there with what I said and meant, don't ya think? Teammates don't respect him? Reason, in particular, for Playoff losses?
He's just not a good Captain. Come to grips with it. He's not going to kill their chances, he just hinders them a bit...
I have no idea who the best player would be for the "C". But I know he's mediocre at best. After watching him the the last two playoff series against the Kings and hearing him talk during the lockout, I feel pretty comfortable that he is just not that smart.
And let's be clear, he's not "the reason" they lost to the Kings, twice. We can list a dozen reasons for those series losses. But to pretend he wasn't part of the problem is naive. Dumb penalties at critical times shows a tremnedous lack of judgement and leadership by example. And don't you look to your "C" to say to the guys, "Hey, we're getting our arses handed to us in the physical part of the game, let's step it up!!"? He either didn't deliver the message very good or they didn't listen because they got beat in nearly every aspect of the game. You don't look to your "C" for any part of that? Hmmmm
I like the guy and think taking the "C" off his sweater would be a win/win. The team gets a better Captain and he gets to just play hockey. He has the potential to be one of the top players in the game. He's that good.
I rest my case becasue there is no chance they're going to change Captian during the season. Maybe he'll get better at it and become smarter...
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| 11/21/13 08:34 PM |
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Right he's no good but you can't name another who you would have preferred 2 years ago. That's really a great argument you have there......who the fork needs a straw man when all any one has to do is respond to you.
And last year he DID call out his team during the year and he took some crap in this forumn for doin it as I recall ....and the team turned around shortly there after. Who woulda thunk from a worried, slow thinking neanderthal.
That C on his jersey doesn't bother me at all....but I do hope they get some good camera angles on it for some proper viewing from your lazy boy.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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| 11/21/13 10:00 PM |
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None of these are me.
But I think it's 10 to 1 for Backes.
Maybe you are the 1.
http://interact.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=996158
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| 11/21/13 11:52 PM |
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Back to you , Boomer!
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| 11/22/13 12:10 PM |
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Right he's no good but you can't name another who you would have preferred 2 years ago. That's really a great argument you have there...
I have no idea who the best candidate was 2 years ago and I have even less of an idea today. Heck, he may have been the best candidate and that's how he ended up being the "C". That stuff is really for the coaches to decide. But not knowing who would be better, doesn't mean you can't recognize he isn't great at the job.
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And last year he DID call out his team during the year and he took some crap in this forumn for doin it as I recall ....and the team turned around shortly there after. Who woulda thunk from a worried, slow thinking neanderthal.
I never cared much for guys that call out teammates publicly and really didn't like it when he did it. That stuff should stay in the locker room, on the bench, at practice or even at the bar when you're drinking a few with the teammates. It was especially bad when he was as much a part of the problem as anyone. Just another example of how he was not a good choice for the "C".
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That C on his jersey doesn't bother me at all....but I do hope they get some good camera angles on it for some proper viewing from your lazy boy.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I'm not losing any sleep over it. He can get better at being a "C" (I hope anyway) and this team may be strong enough that it won't matter.
Huge win last night. Not their best effort in the 3rd period, especailly at the end. But Halak played great and they did enough to win. Great to see Roy get the shootout winner, after his near miss in OT.
Go Blue!!
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| 11/22/13 12:12 PM |
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Bubba, what's your take on this. Is Backes the best choice for the Blues Captain?
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| 11/22/13 05:32 PM |
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Right he's no good but you can't name another who you would have preferred 2 years ago. That's really a great argument you have there...
I have no idea who the best candidate was 2 years ago and I have even less of an idea today. Heck, he may have been the best candidate and that's how he ended up being the "C". That stuff is really for the coaches to decide. But not knowing who would be better, doesn't mean you can't recognize he isn't great at the job.Quote:
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And last year he DID call out his team during the year and he took some crap in this forumn for doin it as I recall ....and the team turned around shortly there after. Who woulda thunk from a worried, slow thinking neanderthal.
I never cared much for guys that call out teammates publicly and really didn't like it when he did it. That stuff should stay in the locker room, on the bench, at practice or even at the bar when you're drinking a few with the teammates. It was especially bad when he was as much a part of the problem as anyone. Just another example of how he was not a good choice for the "C".Quote:
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That C on his jersey doesn't bother me at all....but I do hope they get some good camera angles on it for some proper viewing from your lazy boy.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I'm not losing any sleep over it. He can get better at being a "C" (I hope anyway) and this team may be strong enough that it won't matter.
Huge win last night. Not their best effort in the 3rd period, especailly at the end. But Halak played great and they did enough to win. Great to see Roy get the shootout winner, after his near miss in OT.
Go Blue!!
Right. What most knowledge fans feel is our MVP isn't a good Captain. Stick with that. It suits you.
And it was a great win last night. Every one played their part. I especially liked Backes with the huge HIT to clear the puck with 2 minutes to go. Oh and the goal he scored was ok too.
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| 11/22/13 10:43 PM |
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Watch the Blue's +/- as the season wears on.....that's all you need to know.
This is a really good hockey team.
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| 11/26/13 08:29 PM |
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I checked it a few nights ago and it was +29, by far the best in the NHL. This team is as good, maybe better than the 90-91 season. I think they are a better two-way team. Steen is scoring but he is as good as they come as as a two-way player.
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| 11/27/13 03:33 PM |
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Tied for first in goal differential at 30 with San Jose.
Tied for second in goals per game at 3.4
Second in assists per game at 6.1
First in power play %
9th in penalty kill
6th in goals against average at 2.1
The numbers support that they are a pretty complete team.
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| 12/03/13 01:31 PM |
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Dissapointing losses in San Jose and LA. The team showed a real lack of toughness and heart, in those games. In San Jose, it was matter of not showihng up to play. I guess they figured the Sharks would see that 5 game winning streak and just lay down for them. Ooops, not so much. You actually have show up and play all 60 mins of the game. Spotting any team a 4 goal lead is relatively certain loss.
In LA the Blues showed what got them knocked out of the last two playoffs. The Kings just owned them and all but one or two Blues seem to be fine with that. They were out-hit 31 to 52. If this team doesn't learn to play that kind of grind-it-out hockey, it will be another bump from the plyoffs. A 100+ point regular season means nothing, if you don't have the heart and soul needed for playoff hocky. Let's hope the Blues use these losses as a barometer of what they need to do to be a Cup contender.
Let's hope they can overcome the lack of leadership, in their ranks...
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| 12/03/13 08:41 PM |
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There's no doubt the Kings are in the Blues heads.
At some point, this year, it has to be addressed. I know one thing that could help is outstanding goal tending and I am getting that queezy feeling again..........
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| 12/04/13 04:56 PM |
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Best this happens early in the year. Hopefully, it will give them time to grow a set, before they have to play them again. Not sure how you can play so strong against teams like Chicago and Boston, then melt when you play LA. Frustrating...
The net-minding is always an issue. While they are deep in goaltending, it remains to be seen if any one of them can carry them through the playoffs. Considering how critical it is to playoff success, I trust Hitchcock and Armstrong are just as concerned.
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| 12/05/13 10:18 PM |
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I just read an article on the NHL I thought was interesting. Supposedly NHL players were asked to vote on who they thought the best players and coaches were. There werre the 100 best Forwards, Top 50 defensmen, Top 25 Goalies and the Top 30 head coaches.
Here is where the Blues ended up:
Top 100 FORWARDS
Backes 37
Oshie 69
Steen 75 (remember this was before the season)
Top 50 DEFENSEMEN
Pietroangelo 11
Shattenkirk 20
Bouwmeester 27
Top 25 Goalies
Halak 25
Top 30 Head Coaches
Hitchcock 7
I found it interesting...
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| 12/06/13 06:41 PM |
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iifid do you have a link on that poll?
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| 12/07/13 02:16 AM |
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It was on ESPN.com
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| 12/09/13 02:23 PM |
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Another 1st period no-show against the Ducks. Starting to be a trend with these boyz... I wonder how long Hitch will put up with that before he benches a few key players.
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| 12/27/13 08:31 PM |
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Hawks on Saturday! Blues have had a some issues over the past few games, should be a a good test.
Not sure if Steen is back for this one.
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| 12/27/13 09:36 PM |
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When is the Blues last win against a high quality team? Lately the Blues have been winning against less talented teams and losing to the good ones - especially the real physical ones. San Jose, Anaheim and Vancouver come to mind...
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| 12/28/13 12:26 AM |
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The last good win against a good team was recent vs. the Habs........but your point is taken, prior to that it was a month ago.
We have major issues with SJ and the Kings, both big physical teams with good goal tending. Throw in the loss to the Ducks and I think the Nucks and yeah, it seems to be a west coast problem. And since we play in the WESTERN CONFERENCE that is no small potato.
This is looking samo samo to me for the payoffs but this really is a very good team and there is time for the guys to make the adjustments and figure out how to win the physical games. Blues are considered to be physical themselves.
And DA may make a move. Who knows.
I am still concerned with playoff goal tending. This is Halaks last chance to remain a Blue imo. Time to chit or get off the pot. He or Elliott or both will be gone after this year. It's up to him.
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I echo the fears re our goaltending. Perhaps if Reaves comes back some toughness will increase...
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| 12/30/13 02:23 AM |
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Back to back decent wins. Still not convinced they are equal to the teams at the top but they are a quality club.
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Back to back decent wins. Still not convinced they are equal to the teams at the top but they are a quality club.
The way I see it there are only two things that can keep them from advancing in the playoffs. The first is goaltending and we've beat that one to death. In short, Halak has the skills but serious issues between the ears. Elliott is good but not great. If he were to carry any team through the playoffs, it would be by bringing his A+++ game every minute of every game. Clearly, he hasn't been able to do that yet. Do you now give Jake Allen a shot?
The second is simply the leadership and inconsistencey of this team. For the skill level thay have, they should never lose to sub .500 teams. Yet we see them take shifts, whole periods and sometimes entire games off. Backes is a great player and very weak Captain. Guys like Stewart and Berglund have more talent than 90% of the guys in the NHL but can't bring themselves to play like they want to win every shift of every game. I think Berglund is just too soft and Stewart has headworms. He's the Jaime Garcia of the Blues. They should just hire a full time shrink to follow him around and keep him off the ledge. There are a few others but those are the big name players that just stick out like a sore thumb, when you look at current problems.
Let's hope the next few months is used to work out the kinks in the goaltending and gel these guys into winners. The God-given talent is there. Can they harness it and use it to win is the question.
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You guys are goofy. Elliot should be the #1 goalie....he's 9-1 with a 2.04 GAA, almost .5 lower than Halak. He's a true #1 and the Blues now have the scoring punch to win with him.
As for the rest of the tripe......the Blues have the best +/- in hockey as well as the best winning percentage. The three or four teams in the entire NHYL with better records have 3 games on the Note.
Let it go......this is a really good hockey club that doesn't need any more "pieces". There's alot of parity in the NHL so a cup may or may not be in the cards this year.....but this team qualifies as one of the best the organization has ever put on the ice.
Andy - stop your damn whining.....you can't make this club much better.....check the standings.
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He really can whine with the best of them. bwaaaaaaaaaaa
Well I am fine with where they are and the Chicago fiasco the other night had a lot to do with Halak and our key guys being out AND we still won that barn burner.
It's a great regular season. Teresenko and Schwartz are up and coming offensive play makers, worth watching by themselves.
But c'mon griff..........45 forkin years you can't tell me that's not in the back of your mind. Well you can but don't bother you'd be lying anyway.
Gimme the 94 pt. 8 seed but let's win a forkin Cup.......that's my standard for the year these days.....94 pts or 110 pts just get us to the finals.
I won't argue with you about Elliott because the only thing I am hanging my hat on with this team is the possibility that one of these two goalies can actually do justice for this roster and figure it out and come thru STRONG in April when it matters most.
Last year Kings had 12 goals and we had 10 in round one, our last round of the year. Elliott played well but Quick played better. 2 goal differential over 6 games.
You say it's Elliott. Well I forkin pray its Elliott, and if history matters, he needs the prayers.
We're scoring goals and we have the D. As I see it, it's the goal tending. It will all come down to the goal tending.
We got a head case and a career back up in tow. Gotta go light some more candles down at the Cathedral.
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Are you predicting a run to Lord Stanley's cup Griff? I didn't say that they weren't a good team. I think they are better than they have been for a long time. However I am not ready to say they are elite. They do have three wins against 0 losses to the 'Hawks which is surprising ( Especially considering the Hawks have a total of 7 losses). But they are also 0 and 6 against the Ducks, Kings, Sharks and Canucks. I still think their potential Achilles heel is playing very physical teams.
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Yes, this team can absolutely win the cup.....but it's all about being hot during the playoffs in the NHL. Just don't try to tell me that this team doesn't have the talent to win it all, of course they do....which isn't something that we've been able to say honestly too many times in 45 years.
Yes, Tim, I predict a run to the Stanley Cup......where it will end I don't know. But I know that this version of the Blues is one of the best in the NHL this year....so we'll see. I'd rather be sitting in this seat than most of the others we've sat in.
All of the crying over the years about not enough goal scoring etc.....can't say it this year. All the years about weak defense....gone this year. Goaltending? Halak and Elliot can hold their own in that league.....without question.
I'm enjoying the season......they don't need to make any moves.
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I enjoy watching them and think Hitchcock is the right coach for this team. Rarely do they seem to get out-worked. And yes I think they have more overall talent on this team than I can ever remember. I am hoping they are tough enough for the grinder which is a long season and the even tougher run through the playoffs.
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I thought their problem was a sucky Captain...what happened to that whine?
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I thought their problem was a sucky Captain...what happened to that whine?
You mean the most likely mvp of the team with 30 points and 20 minutes against opposing top lines every game?
Yep this team can go far.
Dear God,
Please let the Blues go far.
Thank You God.
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stfu bubba!!!!!!!
Somebody get that 4 ticks & 4 big macs for $129!!!!!!
sad......sad......sad......used to go to a lot of games.
$5
No freakin way this team can go for the cup
I've enjoyed this week of play..but goalies will win the day.......where's the gumper when we needs um???????
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lookin good after 2!!!!!!!!!!
on a side note.........m dixon jr. gets 40 for the tigers!!!!!!!!!
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i luv me some red wine
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Got a couple of primo tickets for tonight, as bithday present from the wife. Section 102, I think.
I always enjoy going to the games, especially with good seats. Between the high cost, my work travel and the general pain-in-the-arse that it is going to games (we live 40+ miles from there), I just don't go as much these days. In the late 70's and 80's I went to dozens of games every year. In the early to mid 80's I was going 20-30 times a year on average. One year ('83 I think) I went to every home game but one or two.
Looking forward to seeing how the Blues respond to the LA Kings, after losing to them. On the bright side, the Blues are hot and the Kings are struggling. They also won't have Jonanthan quick in the net. On the down side, it looks like they still won't have Backes or Steen. Although that hasn't slowed them too much, in recent games.
Now I just have to dig up my Larry Patey jersey....
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I think Backes may be back tonight. And Stewart is possibly back as well... haven't heard a thing about Steen though? Has anyone? Is this going to be a long time thing with him??
I hope Schwartz continues on his roll! Is it goals in 6 games in a row now?
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Got a couple of primo tickets for tonight, as bithday present from the wife. Section 102, I think.
Is the missus going with you or do you get to take griffin? Was thinking if he had 3 hours time he might get the whining to slow down around here.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Looking forward to seeing how the Blues respond to the LA Kings, after losing to them.
I guess they did alright, huh?
Stand down, Andy....this is the best Blues team ever..... no matter how the season ends, enjoy the ride. This team is +51 at the halfway point. Think about that for a minute.
And again, in case anyone missed it when I said it before....... Elliot should be the #1 goalie....period.
griffin - hopeless hockey homer
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Heck of an effort by our boyz. Talk about team play and puck support. That may have been one of the best team efforts of the year. Of course that's what they needed with Steen and Backes out. Sobotka got the #3 star and could have easily been the #1. Of course that would require bumping Elliott to #2 or #3 and he earned his shutout. Perfect positioning, few rebounds and a few big saves when needed. That first period could have easily ended in an LA lead, if not for him. Hopefully, he'll make it hard for them to put Halak back in the net.
Two things worth noting but shouldn't take anything away from the Blues effort and win. First, a healthy Jonathan Quick makes that a whole different game. Their goaltanding was terrible. Second, LA is in a slump and played like it. They were flat-footed and looked disinterested in the game. Very little of the hard banging you would expect from them... Of course the back-checking and defensive play of our fowards was a big part of it.
I forgot how much better it is to be at the games in person. You can see dozens of little things you just don't get on TV. You just get such a better feel for the game and how each team is playing it. Seeing how and when the defensemen pinch-in or retreat, how the neutral zone play is being supported, the little stuff behind the play, etc... Damn, it would be nice to be wealthy and have primo season tickets...
Not sure if this is the best Blues team ever but it is about as good as any I can recall. If Elliott and/or Halak can get hot, look out!! Solid goaltending behind this bunch would make them almost unbeatable.
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If Elliott and/or Halak can get hot, look out!! Solid goaltending behind this bunch would make them almost unbeatable.
DUDE!!! The Blues have allowed the 3rd fewest goals in the NHL.....stop it!
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That has a lot more to do with the quality of this team than it does the golatending. This defense is as solid as you will find in the NHL. Elliott has done better but just recently cracked the top ten in save percentage. Halak is barely over .900, coming in as #35 in the NHL rankings.
Like you, I'm hoping Elliott wins the job and plays out of his mind. But at this point, I'd be happy with good, steady netminding...
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It's a popular myth for hockey fans that good goaltending makes a good team.....that's backwards and wrong. A good team makes good goaltending. The Blues are absolutely fine with Halak and Elliot. Watch more of their shootouts if you need proof.
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Agreed that a good team can make a goalie better. But watch the playoffs and show me a team that has gone deep without a goaltender that is very good and hot during the run. It's rare...
I want shutouts every game dammit!!
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And WTF is with $9.00 beers? Good thing I went to dinner first and had a full belly (only had room for 2). That could be an expensive night otherwise...
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The Blues blocked 24 shots last night and I believe 28 in the game before. it takes a high level of commitment to do that and the Blues have it. I think Cole blocked 8 or 9 himself last night!
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I will be thrilled if either Elliott or Halak give us the quality goal tending that's required for a deep run.
I don't consider Crawford or Neimi elite but they were good enough at one point and time to give their GREAT teams enough skill to win. We don't need elite with this team. We need steady, solid and dependable net minding to get to April and continue once he playoffs begin. That includes making great saves at critical times and just being steady eddy the rest of the time.
I have seen Halak hot before and I have seen Elliott hot before. I have seen NEITHER hot in the playoffs for the Blues. OK Elliott was hot the first 3 games of last years Kings series. He then was not hot the last 3. And I'm not blaming the series loss on Elliott. We scored 10 friggen goals over 6 games. But Elliott was a part of that meltdown (we were up 2-0)with 2 very soft bad goals when we were trying to shut the door. That's not solid and that's not steady. on the other hand, Quick was both and then some.
Hey, we all agree we have the D and we have the guys who are actually putting it in the net. PP and PK no problem. We have the depth to win with 4 top players out of the line up. We are no longer waiting on Oshie or asking about Backes. The team has grown up and they have the experience we have all been talking about.
IMO, how far we can go is going to come down to the goal tending. I'm pulling for them. I'm listening but if it's Elliott he is going to have to do what he has not done before. And that's one dam long post season to endure. He has the ability no doubt but it seems he let's stuff in his head that suddenly impacts his whole game.
If it's Halak that comes through, well, I'll be shocked. And I was his biggest fan coming here.
And lastly there's Allen. Funny, I have this feeling we may be seeing him in the near future.
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But what about the sucky Captain....I mean , damn.
Did you know MIZZOU is playing?
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| 01/08/14 01:59 PM |
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The roll continues with a sixth straight win.
Record of 30 7 5
65 points with three less games played than the Hawks or the Ducks.
Goal diff is now +58
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With 10 Blues players headed to the Olympics, along with Hitchcock, there is no doubt this is the best Blues team ever. They will be in the conversation for Stanley Cup winners for sure.
griffin
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I like having Reaves back. He is an enforcer and brings an "edge" to this team. He is a ferocious forechecker. And while he isn't overly talented, he is talented enough that he isn't a negative while he's on the ice like some of the enforcers we've had before.
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I agree.
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Perhaps the shortest post you ever made..
And the smartest!
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I do not agree.
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I like having Reaves back. He is an enforcer and brings an "edge" to this team. He is a ferocious forechecker. And while he isn't overly talented, he is talented enough that he isn't a negative while he's on the ice like some of the enforcers we've had before.
The days of the "goon" enforcers are gone, probably forever. The resident tough guys on any NHL team simply have to be able to play effectively on a 3rd or 4th line. Reaves fits the mold of what teams need. He's never going to make it to the HOF but he can play for 10+ years in this league, if his body holds up.
It has been fun to watch this team grow and mature, especially guys like Oshie. When he cam into the league, he was a one man wrecking ball. He plays so much smarter now but still has that edge. Had he continued on the path he was on, it would have been a short, injury-filled career.
Clagary tonight. The Blues chit themselves last time they played there and ended up with a shootout loss. Hopefully, they'll put their foot on the Flames throat and not let up. They play Vancouver tomorrow night and the Canucks are playing as poorly as anyone, in recent games. That game has the potential for trouble. A tired Blues team and a hungry team trying to break a losing streak. If we can get 3 points out of the possible 4 that would be good.
Go Blue!!
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And the Hawk's lost AGAIN! 2 points back with FOUR games in hand!
What is the total of Blues players who are playing for their national team in the Olympics now?
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Just got done watching the Blues and Galgary......this is the best Blues team ever, no matter how the season ends up.
If you don't think so there are only 2 possibilities....either you haven't watched the Blues for 46 years like I have, or you are retarded.
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Pretty dominating performance last night..
Three games in hand on both the Ducks and the Hawks. Tied with 67 points with the Hawks and only 4 behind the Ducks. Lot of season left... but they are looking solid.
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I have no idea what the Blues' record is on for second games on the back-to-back night games but I'm betting it is under .500. You could see this loss coming... Vancouver was hungry and the Blues were tired. Not a good formula for success...
No they're off until Phoenix on Tuesday. This will be a good test against one of those pesky Pacific Div teams that give them so much trouble.
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Their back to back games record was 2-3-1 before last night.
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I watched the last of the 2nd period and entire 3rd last night because I sure didn't see the team you all have been talking about.
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I watched the last of the 2nd period and entire 3rd last night because I sure didn't see the team you all have been talking about.
Dude......you were watching basketball.
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On another note... I am at a Missouri Mavericks game tonight and had to laugh out loud. There is a dude here in a blue "CHIEFS" jersey with "HANSON" on the back. Considering the level of hockey here is is some funny Shiite!
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I watched the last of the 2nd period and entire 3rd last night because I sure didn't see the team you all have been talking about.
Dude......you were watching basketball.
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I might of well have been watching Blaine Gabbert throw up 3 pointers in a curling league at Arthur Ashe Stadium.
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Just got done watching the Blues and Galgary......this is the best Blues team ever, no matter how the season ends up.
If you don't think so there are only 2 possibilities....either you haven't watched the Blues for 46 years like I have, or you are retarded.
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45 years. You didn't watch them last year.
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Polak back but now Sobotka is out..
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Good win last night. This was the type of game that the Blues probably would have lost in years past. They were definitely not on there "A" game but still managed a win. IMHO Polak played well after being out for 10 games and is another physical presence on the ice that the Blues need.
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Agreed, good win for not bringing their "A" game.
That flu bug or virus or whatever is chopping them down, one-by-one, must be a biatch. Several of them have been ill with it and it has knocked them out for days and seems to take a few weeks to get back up to speed.
Kings back in town tomorrow night. They have Quick back and we may be without Sobotka. It will not be a 5-0 game. I think we'll see what a difference good goaltending makes and just how important Sobotka is to this team. He all but shut down their top line last time. I think the Blues had better tighten their pads a little for this game. It has all the makings of a much closer match this time... I also look for LA to be much more physical. Reaves will have to start earning some of that new contract money...
Blues 3
LA 2
I hope ...
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The Blues are a physical team but in context of playoff hockey they are not one of the top physical teams in the league like the Kings are. They just don't have the size. We have one of the smallest D's of all the top teams.
Our gig is to manage the puck down ice as quick as possible. We need to hit the Kings and play them hard sure but stay focused on getting the puck into the offensive zone and keeping it there and winning the game.
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Very astute , Cpt Obvious.
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When did I get promoted?
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I think it was a mis-type and he meant to call you Cpl Obvious..
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What's hilarious is that I guess I have to pretend that Bubba knows about hockey now.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
But Bubba don't know Jack or his cousin Jack chit.
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Not a great showing by the boyz last night. Even more evidence that Elliott belongs between the pipes. Can't say Halak lost that game by himself but he did his best to make sure they weren't coming back from a goal down...
What a contrast between a top tier, Cup-winning goalie, in Quick and what were hoping could be ... Halak. If Elliott doesn't see this opening and seize it, we may be screwed in the playoffs. That game had the feel of a playoff game and the Blues played, well, like they have in the last two playoffs. Lots of cycling around the boards and little action in the passing lanes and in front of the net.
They have a few months to figure it out. I trust Hitch will get them on track. If only they had a good Captain to lead them in games like this....
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Andy...there is NOTHING to figure out. This team is in the top 5 inthe league in every meaningful statistic. The difference in the gtame last night was Quick....period. The Blues played good enough to win, and given that same game on another night they would. LA has a good team.....the Blues are a good team. Sometimes you win 5-0, sometimes you lose 4-1.
As for your point about Elliot.....uh....there's not much more he can do. Why Hitchcock continues to throw Halak in there is lost on me. It's pretty clear who the #1 goalie should be.
griffin
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yall talkin bout the "quick" that waz in Harlem Nights?????????
Playas win games....knot stats
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Sptsman you are gonna love this but some of the Blues play last night is due to Backes not being 100%. We gave away the first 10 minutes if that game to the Kings.
While Stewart can take every other night off DB can't and his non recovery is evident to me.
Halak with the 2 good games and then the let down. Samo samo. That first goal was weak too that wasn't a screen shot imo. The guy is just not focused on the game. If you're a goal tender, EVERYTHING matters.
We have Quick in our net we win. Like I said, this "run" for this very good team is going to come down to goal tending in the end.
Officiating was it's usual horrible self. Nolan throws the first punch and he walks while they put Reeves in the box. And that one hurt.
Elliott has to stay in these games and deliver, it's all we got. If Hitch insists on Halak he's more than a half bubble off.
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I think we can all agree this team has the talent. What remains to be seen is if they have the toughness and grit to win during the playoffs. These last two games have shown they're not quite there yet. They are now 1-7 against Pacific division teams and I think we can all agree that the road to the Cup will require them to beat at least one of those teams and likely 2 of them, in a playoff series.
4 games in the next 6 nights. Let's hope they're in shape and over this bug that has been hitting them for the past month or two...
Go Blue!!
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| 01/20/14 05:57 PM |
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We had about 4 guys that came ready to play Saturday night.
You give the Ducks first 40 minutes of free ice and yeah, 3-0 sounds about right.
Nice third period but as the song says......it's too late baby.
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Pretty impressive outing tonight. The 'wings were short handed but still an impressive result at the Joe. Goals by three different defensemen? Steen didn't miss a beat, did he!
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| 01/22/14 11:22 PM |
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Worse game in many moons and not a peep from anybody? Please.......a 7-1 beatdown by the DEVILS?????????
We've lost 4 of the last six in regulation. Is this train gonna limp into the Olympic station for a rebuilt engine??
Nah...........so far it's just Blues hockey as usual. They are hiding the good stuff......the unheard of heretofore unseen heretofore unachieved stuff...... for later. Yes, it is still the year of the Cup for this team..........they are just making it interesting for all to take in.
Houston.............we got a problem.
But then again, Apollo 13 did get down safely, didn't it?
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Let 'em slump now.....who cares? Look at the last 3 or 4 cup winners.....all had 1-7, 2-8, type slumps during their season. I like that better than going in with the Presidents cup and no adversity all season.
Relax......breath deep.....watch the Sherman video.
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| 01/23/14 12:50 AM |
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Hey Griff what is your thoughts on the rumor of Halak plus next years #1 pick for Ryan Miller??
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I'm no Halak fan....that is my thought. I think Halak can get hot and play with any goalie in the league....but he's a head case. I'd make that trade.
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I'd make it in a heartbeat but it is will more than likely there will be more to give that Jaro and a 1st. Devils will want a young gun like Jaskin or Rattie to come along. OK, if we were really lucky they will want Stewie. bwaaaaaaaa
I'm not concerned with the slump. I am concerned with goal tending and yeah certain players who just can't seem to be ready on any kind of consistent basis.
Yep...they are the ones who need to watch the Sherman video. Say what you want, but that dude comes to play.
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It is a slump but it should give a little pause for concern. Goaltending will just have to be the big question mark. I don't see a trade for Miller happening. I won't be upset if it does, especially if you coul unload Halak and maybe Stewart as well. Both are complete head cases and play with no consistency.
Rangers tonight. We'll see how they respond. You'd like to think they would come out blazin' after that whuppin' in NJ but this team is hard to figure.
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| 01/23/14 09:51 PM |
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You know we are kind of screwed with the whole goalie situation.
First off DA and Hitch continue to believe in Halak......not that Elliott doesn't give them reason for that......but even their lean towards Halak is feasible because Elliott plays better as a back up.......so imo the whole thing is one big blob of grey matter.
Then they are both signed thru this year so the Blues are reluctant to send them down for the money they are making.
Neither goalie is truly attractive to other teams because of their inconsistency.
I am not convinced that the Blues are convinced that Jake Allen is the answer. I thought he played extremely well up here last year (8-3 I think...saved their bacon too) then they ship him off and I haven't seen him since....this in the midst of what I call a breakdown at this important position.
So right or wrong about this if they bring in Miller they will likely have to give up a good chunk and then Miller is a free agent after the play offs so is he a play off rental or do you now shelve Jake Allen again next year?? As I see it, if Miller comes in at a steep price we better win the Cup for that trade to be worth it's weight. OK.....Conference Champs.
Then you have to remember in order to sign and hold onto both Halak and Elliott they shipped of all things the local kid Ben Bishop off to Ottowa last season and he is now with Florida playing as one of the top goalies of the season. He was here the whole time. Right under their nose.
Not the best summary perhaps but good god this whole goalie thing has been one big mess after another. And that comes from a guy who thought Halak was the real deal when he came here.
So here we are....a very good roster BUT.........it's never that simple for the Blues.
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Indeed!!
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Really good win against the Rangers tonite. Hope Steen's injury isn't serious...
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You know we are kind of screwed with the whole goalie situation.
First off DA and Hitch continue to believe in Halak......not that Elliott doesn't give them reason for that......but even their lean towards Halak is feasible because Elliott plays better as a back up.......so imo the whole thing is one big blob of grey matter.
Then they are both signed thru this year so the Blues are reluctant to send them down for the money they are making.
Neither goalie is truly attractive to other teams because of their inconsistency.
I am not convinced that the Blues are convinced that Jake Allen is the answer. I thought he played extremely well up here last year (8-3 I think...saved their bacon too) then they ship him off and I haven't seen him since....this in the midst of what I call a breakdown at this important position.
So right or wrong about this if they bring in Miller they will likely have to give up a good chunk and then Miller is a free agent after the play offs so is he a play off rental or do you now shelve Jake Allen again next year?? As I see it, if Miller comes in at a steep price we better win the Cup for that trade to be worth it's weight. OK.....Conference Champs.
Then you have to remember in order to sign and hold onto both Halak and Elliott they shipped of all things the local kid Ben Bishop off to Ottowa last season and he is now with Florida playing as one of the top goalies of the season. He was here the whole time. Right under their nose.
Not the best summary perhaps but good god this whole goalie thing has been one big mess after another. And that comes from a guy who thought Halak was the real deal when he came here.
So here we are....a very good roster BUT.........it's never that simple for the Blues.
34-11-5 after 50 games......3rd best team in NHL....and you guys won't quit.
griffin
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| 01/24/14 12:03 PM |
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Well yeah........happy there's that.
Then there's the second season, the one that everyone gives a chit about.
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I see a team that has tons of talent and could easily win the Presidents Trophy. So what? I don't want a forking Presidents Trophy. I want a Cup.
Please don't tell me this team is ready for a deep playoff run, they are not there yet. They are 1-7 against Pacific Div. teams. Not sure if you noticed but LA and Anaheim have made some deep runs, in the past few years, including a Cup and clearly are equipped to do it again. The Blues have shown they aren't quite up to par with these teams when they go head-to-head. If it weren't for Quick being out in the spanking LA took a few weeks ago in STL, the Blues might be 0-8 against Pacific Div. teams. This is reason for concern.
I have confidence that Hitch and his staff will get them there but they are not there yet. We still have key players like Stewart and Berglund and a few goalies that just can't seem to bring their A game every night. That missed breakaway by Berglund last night was a perfect example of how this guy is a waste of talent. He has all the God-given talent you could ask for but can't seem to give it 100%, all of the time. I heard the announcer say, "I don't think Berglund realized the defender slipped..." SO WHAT?!?!?! If he were digging and giving 100%, he would have had the breakaway!! When he and Stewart ran into each other, I just thought; how appropriate! Maybe hitch has some magic dust he can sprinkle on those two...
So, let me have my anxiety over this. I've seen some great Blues teams, just like this, that haven't even managed to get to the finals, much less win a Cup. And all of them had this same problem. They are great in the regular season but don't have the grit and physicality to stay with the bigger, tougher, grinding teams, come playoff time...
Again, I trust Hitch will get them there and maybe DA makes a trade (I doubt it). Either way, I'd like to see them compete a little better against serious playoff contenders.
Oh, the above anxiety doesn't mean I am not thoroughly enjoying the run. Most of the games are fun to watch and it is a treat to see some of these young guys flying around and making moves. There is some special talent on this team. And this defense is every bit as good as the Pronger/MacInnis days. I love watching them pinch in and/or join the rush.
And that's all I got to say about that...
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I think they are in trouble for a cup run, as is Chicago this year. The Olympics will take a big toll, especially when nearly half your team is going.
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And this defense is every bit as good as the Pronger/MacInnis days.
Nice try but no, they are not. Those two anchored a couple of D's that were the berries.
(Haus, you will have to look that up..........bwaaaaaaaaa)
Christ, Petro was better two years ago than he is playing right now. Contractitus? Something.
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dingle??
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Pretty remarkable win today. They got a huge break from whatever dolt was reviewing that last Islander non-goal. It should have been a goal. I guess the bad calls even out over a season
No question he kicked it in. The question is did he intend to do it and it was a kicking motion. No way. I would argue he didn't even know where the puck was. Oh well, good for us... Rumor mill churning that the Miller trade is a possibility. I'll believe it when I see it...
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| 01/29/14 03:06 PM |
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Another good win last night. Pretty complete game against the Devils. Not quite the payback for last week but a good win. Why wasn't Reaves playing last night? Anybody know? Was he a healthy scratch? Could have used him in the third when things got chippy... Polak got pole-axed!
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Another good win last night. Pretty complete game against the Devils. Not quite the payback for last week but a good win. Why wasn't Reaves playing last night? Anybody know? Was he a healthy scratch? Could have used him in the third when things got chippy... Polak got pole-axed!
Yes - much more enjoyable to watch than the State of the Union. Blues looked pretty good. Halak really looked sharp. And poor Polak, wow, his knees buckled on that upper-cut from Clowe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujhEgFGZbfo
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Friday night the Blues were simply out-skated and out-worked. On a bright note, if it weren't for Halak they would have lost by 3 or 4 goals, maybe more.
Last night was the opposite, in the nets. Much to my dismay, 2 of the 3 goals by Nashville were soft by Elliott. Again, he's given the chance to rise to the occasion and simply doesn't. Granted the whole team let down to allow Nashville to come back and Elliott made some good saves in the 3rd and in the shootout but we never would have been there, if he hadn't let in the softies.
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Friday night the Blues were simply out-skated and out-worked. On a bright note, if it weren't for Halak they would have lost by 3 or 4 goals, maybe more.
Last night was the opposite, in the nets. Much to my dismay, 2 of the 3 goals by Nashville were soft by Elliott. Again, he's given the chance to rise to the occasion and simply doesn't. Granted the whole team let down to allow Nashville to come back and Elliott made some good saves in the 3rd and in the shootout but we never would have been there, if he hadn't let in the softies.
I sure was happy to have Elliot in the net when the shootout started.
Nice win for the Blues.
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Tarasenko is one hell of a player. He has a plan every time he touches the puck.
And that wrister of his is the sweetest thing I've seen in Blue since they came to town.
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Man, those terrible goalies of ours almost cost us a win against arguably the best team in the East.....so lucky to have pulled out yet another win behind them.
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Tarasenko is one hell of a player. He has a plan every time he touches the puck.
And that wrister of his is the sweetest thing I've seen in Blue since they came to town.
Yeah, if that Brett Hull guy woulda had decent wrist shot he mighta scored a hunnert goals a year when he was a Blue.
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Man, those terrible goalies of ours almost cost us a win against arguably the best team in the East.....so lucky to have pulled out yet another win behind them.
I think you miss the point completely. We all agree the both golaies are very good. The question is: Can they carry this team through the playoffs? Since they have both showed inconsistent play at times, there is some question as to whether either of them us up to the task of playing at the highest level for the duration of the playoffs. If you don't think that is a concern for this team, you have your head in the sand...
To take each win during the regular season and hold it up as some vlaidation of these netminders being compared to Glenn Hall or Patrick Roy is absurd. A team, no matter how good they are, will only go as far in the playoffs as their goalie(s) will take them. Both of ours have talent and appear to be capable. But neither of them has played more than 3 or 4 solid games in net, in a row.
When some goof says that a team can be good enough to overcome, less-than-stellar goaltending and still win the Cup, I ask them to give me one example. They can't because it has never happened. Even average netminders that have their name on the Cup somehow managed to play outstanding during the run to the Cup.
And that's all I got to say about that...
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On any given night Halak or Elliot can look like the the second coming of Glen Hall or Jacques Plante. However on another night either, but especially Halak, can look like Phil Myre or Ed Staniowski. The inconsistency is what bothers me.
Griff do you REALLY trust either of these goalies to be good enough for the Note to make a deep run in the playoffs? I still don't. Even last night Halak got very lucky several times and as usual he gave up a lot of fat rebounds.
Or put another way, if you list the forwards, the defensemen and the goalies as separate groups, which would say was the strongest group and which would you say was the weakest? I would definitely say the goalies are the weakest of those three groups.
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Now we just keep our fingers crossed that none of our boys get injured in Sochi. Talk about a coach and GM's nightmare... I don't envy their job, especially when they get back from Russia. A team like the Blues has half the team that needs hard workouts and the other half that needs rest. How do you run those practices? I guess the boys that need rest just sit.
Also hearing rumors that the Blues are shopping Chris Stewart pretty hard. I, for one, would love to see him go. He's a head case and plays aout as inconsistently as you can. It's a shame too, because his physical presence is exactly what the Blues need in the playoffs. What good does it do to be 6'2" - 230Lbs if you only decide to give an effort every 3rd or 4th shift? Reaves has 1/2 the talent but gives twice the effort. Even Berglund is starting to come around a little...
The post Olympic play will give us a good read on who is going to get hot for a playoff run.
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Tarasenko is one hell of a player. He has a plan every time he touches the puck.
And that wrister of his is the sweetest thing I've seen in Blue since they came to town.
Yeah, if that Brett Hull guy woulda had decent wrist shot he mighta scored a hunnert goals a year when he was a Blue.
I had Hull in mind when I wrote it. Still wrote it. This kid is gonna be better than Hull in about different 10 ways. And you gotta wait 15 years to prove me wrong. bwaaaaaaaa
Oh yeah, fork Hull.
bwaaaaaaaaaaa
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On any given night Halak or Elliot can look like the the second coming of Glen Hall or Jacques Plante. However on another night either, but especially Halak, can look like Phil Myre or Ed Staniowski. The inconsistency is what bothers me.
Griff do you REALLY trust either of these goalies to be good enough for the Note to make a deep run in the playoffs? I still don't. Even last night Halak got very lucky several times and as usual he gave up a lot of fat rebounds.
Or put another way, if you list the forwards, the defensemen and the goalies as separate groups, which would say was the strongest group and which would you say was the weakest? I would definitely say the goalies are the weakest of those three groups.
The only way we get to the Cup Finals is if Halak 1) stays healthy 2) plays solid, consistent, near lights out for the long post season, AS HE DID IN MONTREAL.
That's it. Forget about Elliott as a #1 for the answer for the long haul, ain't gonna happen.
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Tarasenko is one hell of a player. He has a plan every time he touches the puck.
And that wrister of his is the sweetest thing I've seen in Blue since they came to town.
Yeah, if that Brett Hull guy woulda had decent wrist shot he mighta scored a hunnert goals a year when he was a Blue.
I had Hull in mind when I wrote it. Still wrote it. This kid is gonna be better than Hull in about different 10 ways. And you gotta wait 15 years to prove me wrong. bwaaaaaaaa
Oh yeah, fork Hull.
bwaaaaaaaaaaa
Fork 15 years.
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Both Halak and Elliott are capable of getting red hot for the playoffs, something that, over time, has proven to be much more important than the GAA in the regular season (something that both halak and Elliott are NOT lacking....they stack up fine with any goalies in the league).
We're fine......I'm sure you naysayers want to say that the second lowest team goals against in the NHL this year has nothing to do with the goalies, but you'd be so full of crap that it's not worth discussing.
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Fine? bwaaaaaaaaa. Is that like a 6 on a scale of 10?
Yeah and these two won the Jennings 2 years ago and what happened in the playoffs?
Halak was hurt or was it the flu and then Elliott lost his award winning edge.
So the Jennings got us 1 and done. Fork that.
The last three years have been full of great goalie play...at times.......and awards.....at times. But it's a 3 year span that has also shown poor play off goal tending for what ever reasons.
So you say this year is different. It might be....it can be.....it should be.....but that track record of theirs has to be broken. Even you can't deny that.
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2nd best record in all of hockey.....goalies have nothing to do with it....check.
Even if goalies have something to do with it they cannot be trusted in playoffs......check.
You forkers could screw up a one car funeral.
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2nd best record in all of hockey.....goalies have nothing to do with it....check.
Even if goalies have something to do with it they cannot be trusted in playoffs......check.
You forkers could screw up a one car funeral.
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Twice.
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Even if goalies have something to do with it they cannot be trusted in playoffs......check.
3 times now.
But that's fine. bwaaaaaaa
If Jaro can avoid the flu, injuries, the sniffles, the clap and your basic mental break down we have a chance.
Lord knows, this may well be the best team he EVER suits up with. His job comes down to not forkin up.
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Ok ladies.. We have a break here for a couple of weeks.. at this point in the season who do you think is:
The biggest positive surprise for the Blues:
The biggest disappointment for the team:
The most talented Blues player:
The MVP of the team at this point:
The player we could least afford to lose:
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The biggest positive surprise for the Blues: Schwartz
The biggest disappointment for the team: Halak
The most talented Blues player: Tarasenko
The MVP of the team at this point: Backes
The player we could least afford to lose: Tarasenko
ok ok......just kidding on Halak. I think. Yet.
It's Stewie. I still like the guy, still waiting and waiting. But it's Stewie.
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The biggest positive surprise for the Blues: Steen
The biggest disappointment for the team: Stewart
The most talented Blues player: Tarasenko
The MVP of the team at this point: Oshie / Backes / Steen
The player we could least afford to lose: Oshie
Almost everyone of these catagories could have 2 or 3 or even 4 guys named and you could make a good arguement for each:
I picked Steen becasue he has28 goals, 7 game winners, he's +14 and he missed 10 games!! Who saw that coming? Schwartz is a good choice as well.
Tarasenko has more talent in his little finger than most have in their whole body. That guy is sick-good. I hope he gets the playing time to be the next Ovechkin. He's every bit as good. The only thing holding him back is the depth of talent on this team.
Hard to pick an MVP until the season is over. I cheated and put the top three and you could add Shatenkirk and Tarasenko to that list as well.
Oshie is quickly becoming the heart and soul of this team. I think losing him would really impact them more than anyone.
Go Blue!!
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I am moist with anticipation waiting on Bubba's take on this...
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I am moist with anticipation waiting on Bubba's take on this...
Take it to the Sams thread please...
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It's not the loss that bugs me but recent play has been poor and losing to Dusquene?? with VCU tomorrow is NOT a good idea.
Man you gotta be playing your best about now. It's March.
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hope u all iz happy now!~
bluz gotz ah goalie huh?????
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Miller is a stud! Could he be the final piece to get the Note deep in the playoffs???
Discuss amongst yourselves...
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Miller is a stud! Could he be the final piece to get the Note deep in the playoffs???
Discuss amongst yourselves...
This is one of those hockey deals that is good for both teams. If you look at raw numbers this year the Sabres got the best deal.....if you look at where the players fit within an organization, the Blues may have just wrapped up a trip to the finals.
I, for one, am not happy to see Halak or Stewart go.....but I think it's a good move for them too, because I think the organization had lost confidence in them.
I'll say this.....the trade has been made....play Miller every day....he's your guy now, live or die with him.
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I am happy to see both go. I have not been this giddy about a trade, in a loooong time. Giddy, I tell ya, giddy!!
Stewart is a head case. He has as much talent as anyone in the league and pouts like a grade-schooler when he doesn't get enough playing time, gets demoted to a 3rd or 4th line or just doesn't like the way things are. He is consistently inconsistent. You can't have guys like that on your team, if you're going to make a serious run. Everybody needs to be "all-in" and he wasn't. The Blues lose a problem child and his $4+ million salary for next year. This was addition by subtraction, if nothing else...
I feel bad for Halak but he just didn't do it. He was given the role and simply didn't answer the bell. Gotta hope Miller is up to the task. All indications are the he will be.
Now the Blues just need to remember how to score goals.
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Oshie and Backes have now played 4 straight games without their team scoring a goal.
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But Backes brought home all the stray dogs he could from Russia... I told you he was stupid.
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But Backes brought home all the stray dogs he could from Russia... I told you he was stupid.
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But Backes brought home all the stray dogs he could from Russia... I told you he was stupid.
BWAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA!!!
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Ya'll laughin at the captain who stood up and fought for Tarasenko the first night Stewie was gone?
Dumb forkin joke anyway. bwaaaaaaaaaa
DA ships out two of his big trade players he brought here. Ouch. Ship out the kids and send me the adults.
I just hope this is the deal to end the ridiculous black goalie hole that's existed in this town for so many years. At 33 years, Miller recognizes what's at stake too. However, make no mistake....I hope he likes pressure.
I can only assume they wanted to give up the #1 pick over sending them Rattie and got their way. And Jaskin was never on the table.....that guy is going to be a great payer starting very soon.
Ott for Stewie? In this Conference? Thank you Doug.
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Then again, we DID just trade the goalie from the best team in hockey for the goalie of the worst team in hockey. I know you goalie haters are happy.
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Game one of the Miller era had me very nervous. Once they scored once though they looked like a different team.
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Then again, we DID just trade the goalie from the best team in hockey for the goalie of the worst team in hockey. I know you goalie haters are happy.
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Uh huh. And with that logic the Blues should slide and the Sabres should glide. Good luck with that.
This isn't about team and it's not about stats. It IS about making the plays expected and then a few game savers thrown in. We'll see if Miller can do that because Halak sure as hell could not.
Go Blue!
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Then again, we DID just trade the goalie from the best team in hockey for the goalie of the worst team in hockey. I know you goalie haters are happy.
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Uh huh. And with that logic the Blues should slide and the Sabres should glide. Good luck with that.
This isn't about team and it's not about stats. It IS about making the plays expected and then a few game savers thrown in. We'll see if Miller can do that because Halak sure as hell could not.
Go Blue!
Hey, at least it give you haters a scapegoat.
griffin
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hey..........if that trade did anything it got you off the hook.... big time..... supporting the sleeping midget.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaa
Now back to regular programming:
"How the Blues might still have a chance to win the Cup with a real goalie"
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hey..........if that trade did anything it got you off the hook.... big time..... supporting the sleeping midget.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaa
What? Andy's not that short.
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Can you imagine how good this team would be if they played like they did in the 3rd period Sunday night and the last 2 periods last night, all of the time? I honestly don't think these guys understand what they have here, at least not the younger ones. I'm sure guys like Ott and Jackman do. They've been around long enough and understand what good and bad teams look like in the NHL. But the younger guns and dumb guys like Backes (
) probably can't really grasp just how special this team can be. Hitchcock has to find a way to get these guys to turn it on for 60 mins, every game. The 1/2 period or full period lapses are about the only weaknesses left on this team. Pretty special stuff when all you have to biatch about is the Captain's low IQ (still can't believe he brought home stray dogs from Russia) and a few spells of less than 100% performance. Especially when the Captain is still a great player and the team is good enough to overcome the lapses...
Oshie's short handed goal last night was sick. And Steen's backhander in traffic was pretty darn good as well. Fun game to watch...
Go Blues!!
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Do you even watch these games or do you just read about them and then make stuff up??
Jax was hardly stellar. But so glad he understands the importance of it all. Good grief.
I'm sure no one told you Backes had the 2 assists, +2 on ice and 3 big hits. Next time you actually watch a game....and see Backes slacking....please by all means point it out in the am.
This should be good. Can't wait for more heady reports from your living room.
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Can you imagine how good this team would be if they played like they did in the 3rd period Sunday night and the last 2 periods last night, all of the time? I honestly don't think these guys understand what they have here, at least not the younger ones. I'm sure guys like Ott and Jackman do. They've been around long enough and understand what good and bad teams look like in the NHL. But the younger guns and dumb guys like Backes (
Pretty special stuff when all you have to biatch about is the Captain's low IQ (still can't believe he brought home stray dogs from Russia) and a few spells of less than 100% performance. Especially when the Captain is still a great player and the team is good enough to overcome the lapses...
Oshie's short handed goal last night was sick. And Steen's backhander in traffic was pretty darn good as well. Fun game to watch...
Go Blues!!
LOL - last week it would have been "we can't spot the good teams two goals like we did this game just because our goalies let in soft goals due to their bad position in the net. This team needs a strong netminder and a winger who can grind".
I'll say this.....from all the flopping around the defense was doing, ya'll must have A LOT more confidence in Miller than they do.
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Miller gave up 2 goals on 17 shots. Both goals early in the game. One was unstoppable, the other...maybe should have had it.
But then the goals stopped.
That's all he has to do. NEITHER OF THE GOALS GIVEN UP WERE SOFT OR BAD. Team knows this. Team knows they are still in it. Team plays hard.
Look at Bishop, one of the top goalies in the league. He, too, "could have" stopped 2 of the Blues goals. But his mates still know he's a good goalie.
Doug Armstrong was the last guy in the world who wanted to ship Halak out. He brought him here. He had to be hit on the head with a 2X4 for 2 years time before he finally had to admit what a lot of people said they knew. And it took a trade deadline to do it.
Miller is still considered a top 5 goalie right now at 33. Whether he plays up to that for us this Spring, I don't know. What I do know is that he will play better than Halak down this stretch and into the playoffs. The Blues will play harder in front of him as well. And that's what DA finally concluded too.
So we all agree how much better this team was before the trade than last year at this time. Schwartz, Senko both jumping out with 20 goal seasons so far. Backes, Steen and Oshie waaay ahead of last years offensive production. Lappy and Morrow adding the hard nosed play we need in this conference. Jbo and Petro geling in their second year together.
But THAT TRADE has been made. Time to end the nonsense. Are you gonna sit at your keyboard and bang out the letters telling me that you would prefer Halak over Miller? I say I say...freaking HALAK over MILLER????
Good god........don't go there....I got my hands full already dealing with one knucklehead who doesn't know the difference of a puck from a buffalo chip.
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Halak to the Capitals.
The East can only be better for him.
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Miller gave up 2 goals on 17 shots. Both goals early in the game. One was unstoppable, the other...maybe should have had it.
But then the goals stopped.
That's all he has to do. NEITHER OF THE GOALS GIVEN UP WERE SOFT OR BAD. Team knows this. Team knows they are still in it. Team plays hard.
Look at Bishop, one of the top goalies in the league. He, too, "could have" stopped 2 of the Blues goals. But his mates still know he's a good goalie.
Doug Armstrong was the last guy in the world who wanted to ship Halak out. He brought him here. He had to be hit on the head with a 2X4 for 2 years time before he finally had to admit what a lot of people said they knew. And it took a trade deadline to do it.
Miller is still considered a top 5 goalie right now at 33. Whether he plays up to that for us this Spring, I don't know. What I do know is that he will play better than Halak down this stretch and into the playoffs. The Blues will play harder in front of him as well. And that's what DA finally concluded too.
So we all agree how much better this team was before the trade than last year at this time. Schwartz, Senko both jumping out with 20 goal seasons so far. Backes, Steen and Oshie waaay ahead of last years offensive production. Lappy and Morrow adding the hard nosed play we need in this conference. Jbo and Petro geling in their second year together.
But THAT TRADE has been made. Time to end the nonsense. Are you gonna sit at your keyboard and bang out the letters telling me that you would prefer Halak over Miller? I say I say...freaking HALAK over MILLER????
Good god........don't go there....I got my hands full already dealing with one knucklehead who doesn't know the difference of a puck from a buffalo chip.
I am not a Miller fan. I AM a Halak fan. I AM an Elliot fan. I was fine with Halak and Elliot. They were part of a team that has been in the top 3 of fewest goals allowed all season. I don't believe in messing with that kind of success.
Ryan Miller is a pompous ass. I don't like him. I'm not going to start liking him. Fork Miller.
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Ryan Miller is a pompous ass. I don't like him. I'm not going to start liking him. Fork Miller.
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Of course there are some things wrong with him. He's a friggen GOALIE.
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ditto...
That there's a good one Bubba.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Brett Hull was the most pompous ass to ever wear the note. Were you able to get on baord when he was pumping in 50+ goals?
Man, I still can't believe Backes brought stray dogs back from Russia. Were the souvenir shops all depleted? WTF was that all about?
I mean, really, last stand, doesn't that at least make you scratch your head a just a little? Stray dogs? From forkin' Russia? Jeeze, we have plenty of stray dogs right here in STL, don't we?
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Brett Hull was funny......Ryan Miller is an azzhole.
Besides, Ryan Miller is no Brett Hull. In fact, He's no Yaraslov Halak either. Halak's regular season AND playoff GAA and SV% is better than Miller's.
Fork Miller.
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What's the "pompous" thing about anyway? I guess I'm behind the times on Ryan Miller.
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So we are ignoring the really important thing - Griff how is Miller's footwork?
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He looks slow to me.....and pompous.
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What's the "pompous" thing about anyway? I guess I'm behind the times on Ryan Miller.
You're not behind the times. At least not on this... He's just bored and had a man crush on Halak. You know, sort of like you have on Backes...
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Well he pouts like Halak.
You get the flu every month too griff? How's your hammy?
Did your boss recently tell you "you're done"?
Fan base in Buffalo ........to a tee......are now rooting for Miller to get a Cup. Sounds like griffs kind of azzhole to me alright.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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I'm hoping for Washington/St. Louis in the cup final. I might actually root for Washington and Halak just so I'd never have to read anything about hockey from you two boneheads again.
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I saw the highlights of the Nicklas Lidstrom ceremony, in Detroit last night. I only got to see Bobby Orr play one time, in person and was really too young to appreciate what I was seeing. But I've seen dozens and dozens of highlight reels and saw him live on TV many times. I understand he is the best defenseman ever. But Lidstrom could be #2. If he's not, he's certainly in the top 5 ever to play the game. What a stud he was!!
I heard the Blues announcers talking about it last night and bringing up Doug Harvey and Dennis Potvin. I can't believe they left out Larry Robinson. Of course there is also the guys we are familiar with like Al MacInnis, Chris Pronger and Scott Stevens.
Makes you wonder if any of these guys we have can get to that status? I think we have some good ones right now but not quite that level. Then again, having 4 or 5 really good defensemen may be as beneficial as one superstar back there.
Here's to Nicklas Lidstrom. He played hockey that right way
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Bobby Orr was one of the best that ever laced up but I never liked him.
Extremely pompous.
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There may have been better defensemen, but nobody was more feared in front of the net, EVER, than Vladimir Konstantinov. If I was building an all-star team and needed 6-8 defensemen.....he'd be one.
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Yeah, he would last about a week in today's NHL. They would flag him for interference, elbowing, leaving his feet, and every other thing they could think of. He would get penalty after penalty and suspension after suspension. He wouldn't be a good player for your team because the NHL wouldn't let him play...
Vlad the Impaler was an anomaly for a Russian.
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Should put skirts on all of them NHL guys..
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Whelp I listened to the Blues game on the radio today. What a trip. Aside from nearly giving me a heart attack it brought back some old sweet memories.
Beating the Avs in Colorado is significant. A hot top conference team.
Anyway..........in that Miller seems to be consistent, and has won 4 games more than Jaro since the trade, (that be F-O-U-R) I thought it might be worth it to make a suggestion to you griffin.
I think you had better jump on this wagon right now. The Miller-Blues wagon. Just pick up the phone and call Lee and find how to do it as gracefully as possible. We will all go along and pretend you never wanted to keep Jaro.....bwaaaaaaaa........sorry, pardon the lack of composure..............anyway.....this might really be it...........you don't wanna be outside, after 46 years of waiting.....and Miller is NOW BLUE...........you can't separate them......just make the leap dude......get on this love train....we will all turn our backs when you do it.
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He played really well this afternoon for sure. He's steady.
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But he is pompous .. And that is unforgivable
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He played really well this afternoon for sure. He's steady.
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Nice to know you called Lee. I see he recommended his "baby step" tactic for this particular matza ball.
This is good.
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Elliott stood on his head tonight. They need to stick with him....
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Dude....without a doubt, one of the best saves I have seen all year from any goalie by Elliot tonight.
You realize that Elliot is 5th is GAA ad Miller is 23rd.....right?
Sometimes I think you sniff glue.
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Overheard after the game ended when Miller congradulated Elliot......nice game Elli, but if I had been playing, we would not have needed to go to overtime.
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Dude....without a doubt, one of the best saves I have seen all year from any goalie by Elliot tonight.
You realize that Elliot is 5th is GAA ad Miller is 23rd.....right?
Sometimes I think you sniff glue.
griffin
You do realize that Miller spent all but the last 4 games, playing for the worst team in the NHL don't you? GAA is a stat that carries far less weight than save percentage, for evaluating goalies, becuase it reflects overall team play more than the goalie's talents. Look at save percentages and you will see Miller ahead of Elliot. That is even more impressive, when you consider the quality of his saves with Buffalo. That is a really bad team...
I still like Elliott and glad to have him as a back-up, in case Miller gets hurt or falls on hs face. But Elliott was given chance after chance to show he is top tier and just didn't do it. He's good. This team deserves great.
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Dude....without a doubt, one of the best saves I have seen all year from any goalie by Elliot tonight.
You realize that Elliot is 5th is GAA ad Miller is 23rd.....right?
Sometimes I think you sniff glue.
griffin
You do realize that Miller spent all but the last 4 games, playing for the worst team in the NHL don't you? GAA is a stat that carries far less weight than save percentage, for evaluating goalies, becuase it reflects overall team play more than the goalie's talents. Look at save percentages and you will see Miller ahead of Elliot. That is even more impressive, when you consider the quality of his saves with Buffalo. That is a really bad team...
I still like Elliott and glad to have him as a back-up, in case Miller gets hurt or falls on hs face. But Elliott was given chance after chance to show he is top tier and just didn't do it. He's good. This team deserves great.
No, I had no idea Miller was with Buffalo and they were the worst team in hockey.....I rarely follow the game.
(I guess Miller gets some credit for being last too, huh?)Their save percentages are .924 - .918....hardly a massive difference when you consider the GAA is over 1/2 goal difference in favor of Elliot.
I'm fine with Miller....I was fine with Halak and Elliot...all top tier goalies, and Halak actually has a better save percentage than Miller in playoff games.....if you want to hand your rather large and pompous hat so proudly on that statistic.
If the Blues win the cup, Miller doesn't get the credit for it.....period.
griffin
| last_stand |
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If the Blues win the cup, Miller doesn't get the credit for it.....period.
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Right......I forgot.............the mighty Halak was here.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Tell you what...IF we win the Cup, or just get to the finals.......you and Dorothy and the Tin Man can run around town telling everybody how that trade meant nothing in goal.
Now I gotta go lie down.....I think I busted a hole in my gut a minute ago.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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If the Blues win the cup, Miller doesn't get the credit for it.....period.
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Right......I forgot.............the mighty Halak was here.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Tell you what...IF we win the Cup, or just get to the finals.......you and Dorothy and the Tin Man can run around town telling everybody how that trade meant nothing in goal.
Now I gotta go lie down.....I think I busted a hole in my gut a minute ago.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa
You're smoking crack, admit it, your cocaine addiction has ate your brain.....are you trying to tell me that Blues couldn't win the cup with the #4 and #9 goalie in hockey? What forking planet are you from?
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Why you gotta bring the poor guy's addictions into this? Hater...
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I'm no Halak fan....that is my thought. I think Halak can get hot and play with any goalie in the league....but he's a head case. I'd make that trade. Of course tonight Miller has given up two soft goals.
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So you would make the trade and now that they got him, Miller is a headcase?
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Miller was waaaay less than impressive tonight. So much for controlling rebounds, huh?
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Did you watch Jaro play last night? He didn't have rebound issues, the puck just went flying right by him.
Miller gave up one that he could have stopped but our pp right now is in the tank. Dallas came to play, the Blues, not so much.
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Not the Blues best effort. Miller would tell you that he would like a do-over on that breakaway goal against him. The other two were goals no matter who was in net. The first was a power play goal and the OT goal was a point blank wrist shot from 15 feet, with three players in front of Miller.
griffin - just how good can a goalie be if the team that traded for him, traded him away the next day?
Next up, David Perron comes back to town with Edmonton. I'd say that trade has worked out well for both teams. Perron is doing well in Edmonton and the Blues were able to free up some ice time for guys like Tarasenko and Schwartz. Hopefully, Backes or one of the boyz can rock his world with a few punishing checks and get him off his game. I fear the kid will want to score a few goals against his old team, just to prove a point.
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Halak lovers/haters
His shining hour and one of the reasons the Caps wanted him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1U_WpDiLgE
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That's why WE wanted him. 4 years ago.
Caps now? Good luck.
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If the Blues win the Stanley Cup this year I think we should build a new bridge and put Miller's name on it.
We always need another bridge.
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If the Blues win the Stanley Cup this year I think we should build a new bridge and put Miller's name on it.
We always need another bridge.
I was going to suggest that the next bridge be known as The Sportsman and Last Stand Span
It wouldn't even need lighting since you two are so bright
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Well Wu.......one side would be lit up, ready to go and smooth as a baby's bottom.
The other side would be stuck in the mud still driving piers sideways......no Captain, no Project Manager on site......while rumor has it somebody is still sitting on the fence looking for a leader with the right kind of pedigree to build his bridge.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Well Wu.......one side would be lit up, ready to go and smooth as a baby's bottom.
The other side would be stuck in the mud still driving piers sideways......no Captain, no Project Manager on site......while rumor has it somebody is still sitting on the fence looking for a leader with the right kind of pedigree to build his bridge.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
If that's true, then I vote you build the east bound lanes.
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Well Wu.......one side would be lit up, ready to go and smooth as a baby's bottom.
The other side would be stuck in the mud still driving piers sideways......no Captain, no Project Manager on site......while rumor has it somebody is still sitting on the fence looking for a leader with the right kind of pedigree to build his bridge.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
If that's true, then I vote you build the east bound lanes.
Amen Brother Foots
Amen
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Yep I can get you two horn toads east bound to your fav night club.....I know it must be hard to choose......bwaaaaaaaaa........but comin home ya'll will have to make do on your own somehow.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Meanwhile........I am gonna miss Senko out there on the ice. Dammit anyway.
That's it for all Blue injuries. No More. Notta. Zip. Uh Uh.
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I have to say that I believe last night was the first time I saw a goal awarded where the puck didn't go anywhere near the net...
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Oh yeah and congrats to the Note for going over 100 points last night. Only the 6th time in team history.
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Look for a barn burner tonight. This should be good.
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The Blues appear to be one goalie away from winning the cup.....hopefully they can find one before the payoffs start.
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Yes, he really let his team down didn't he?
No fore check.
No back check.
Did not hit anybody.
All his shots went wide.
Weak at the blue line
Weak in the neutral zone
Didn't clear Petro or Jackman out of his way to make the deflected saves. Should have been a snap, they were just standing there....all he needed to do was shove them.
He was terrible. Bring back the midget. I don't care if he does have the flue...get him back here....we are lost with out him. I want the midget!!
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I have been somewhat of a Jackman apologist but he was absolutely awful last night.
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Yes, he really let his team down didn't he?
No fore check.
No back check.
Did not hit anybody.
All his shots went wide.
Weak at the blue line
Weak in the neutral zone
Didn't clear Petro or Jackman out of his way to make the deflected saves. Should have been a snap, they were just standing there....all he needed to do was shove them.
He was terrible. Bring back the midget. I don't care if he does have the flue...get him back here....we are lost with out him. I want the midget!!
Dude....that is EXACTLY what could be said for every game that Halak or Elliot lost.....this is a great team, and sometimes they run around like idiots.
My gig at the "miracle goalie" is because you guys seem to think he is some savior above and beyond what we had.....he's not. And so far, from what I can tell, it's no wonder Buffalo let Ott go.....he's got nothing.
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Yes, he really let his team down didn't he?
No fore check.
No back check.
Did not hit anybody.
All his shots went wide.
Weak at the blue line
Weak in the neutral zone
Didn't clear Petro or Jackman out of his way to make the deflected saves. Should have been a snap, they were just standing there....all he needed to do was shove them.
He was terrible. Bring back the midget. I don't care if he does have the flue...get him back here....we are lost with out him. I want the midget!!
Dude....that is EXACTLY what could be said for every game that Halak or Elliot lost.....this is a great team, and sometimes they run around like idiots.
My gig at the "miracle goalie" is because you guys seem to think he is some savior above and beyond what we had.....he's not. And so far, from what I can tell, it's no wonder Buffalo let Ott go.....he's got nothing.
griffin
Yeah they are so much alike you had to wait 3 weeks before you could rip on the trade.
Elliott? Great back up. Glad we have him. He'll likely be gone from this team next year, but I don't see him starting anywhere in the league, do you?
You like Halak. I get that. But these two are night and day apart in a whole lot of ways. Hitchcock agrees and obviously so does DA, the guy who brought him here and stood by him for 4 years. It must have been tough to ship him out. His biggest supporter.
Splain that.
One city thrilled, another city sad. Splain that.
It wasn't because he never played well. He could do that. It's because he was inconsistent. Sick. Hurt. Head case. And lord knows he had his shot. Four forkin years. Always something to keep him from actually contributing when it counted most.
Playing better and more consistent than Halak doesn't make you a Savior, it just makes you better and more consistent than Halak.
And that's why two smart guys shipped him out.
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Yes, he really let his team down didn't he?
No fore check.
No back check.
Did not hit anybody.
All his shots went wide.
Weak at the blue line
Weak in the neutral zone
Didn't clear Petro or Jackman out of his way to make the deflected saves. Should have been a snap, they were just standing there....all he needed to do was shove them.
He was terrible. Bring back the midget. I don't care if he does have the flue...get him back here....we are lost with out him. I want the midget!!
Dude....that is EXACTLY what could be said for every game that Halak or Elliot lost.....this is a great team, and sometimes they run around like idiots.
My gig at the "miracle goalie" is because you guys seem to think he is some savior above and beyond what we had.....he's not. And so far, from what I can tell, it's no wonder Buffalo let Ott go.....he's got nothing.
griffin
Yeah they are so much alike you had to wait 3 weeks before you could rip on the trade.
Elliott? Great back up. Glad we have him. He'll likely be gone from this team next year, but I don't see him starting anywhere in the league, do you?
You like Halak. I get that. But these two are night and day apart in a whole lot of ways. Hitchcock agrees and obviously so does DA, the guy who brought him here and stood by him for 4 years. It must have been tough to ship him out. His biggest supporter.
Splain that.
One city thrilled, another city sad. Splain that.
It wasn't because he never played well. He could do that. It's because he was inconsistent. Sick. Hurt. Head case. And lord knows he had his shot. Four forkin years. Always something to keep him from actually contributing when it counted most.
Playing better and more consistent than Halak doesn't make you a Savior, it just makes you better and more consistent than Halak.
And that's why two smart guys shipped him out.
Dude.....I have said this before and I'll say it again ELLIOT SHOULD BE THE #1 GOALIE!! I have no idea what Hitchcock's problem with him is......but he is, and has been, the best goalie on the team.
griffin
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Good question. Why does Hitch have Elliott on the pine?
He's on the bench because he's a great back up.
He's on the team because Halak, attitude and all, would have been a terrible back up.
He's been our #1 multiple times always to have inevitably fallen apart and sent back to the bench.
He got 3 games into the Kings series last April playing great and then pretty much lost his edge. Did the same thing the year before.
They tried to move him all last summer and couldn't. No one saw him as a starter or wanted his contract for his play.
You're at odds with a lot of hockey people. You rank them Elliott, Halak and then Miller? Really? I'm ok with that, but please.........at the first sign of daylight......for your own good.....put down the forkin crack pipe.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Yeah, I know......I'm at odds with all the people who apparently can't see that Elliot has the second best GAA in hockey.
I think Elliot is a #1.....and I don't consider you to be "hockey people".
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I think Elliot is a #1.....and I don't consider you to be "hockey people".
griffin
as compared to
dog people?
horse people?
ballet people?
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Never said I was. But heh, since you are so tuned in to them hockey peoples, put a few names up who want Ell's to be their #1.
At least you're off the Halak wagon. That was a short ride.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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That was a very good win. I have to say in this game Elliott looked like a #1. Excellent defense by the whole team. I am worried about the lack of scoring punch lately...
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I heard it on the radio and sounded like he had a great game.
Big win, 2-2 road trip at this point would be nice.
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At this point you HAVE to start Elliot over Miller.....Hitchcock won't do it, and "hockey people" won't agree, but they're wrong.
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At this point you HAVE to start Elliot over Miller.....Hitchcock won't do it, and "hockey people" won't agree, but they're wrong.
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have you tried twitting them this information?
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At this point you HAVE to start Elliot over Miller.....Hitchcock won't do it, and "hockey people" won't agree, but they're wrong.
griffin
have you tried twitting them this information?
Seriously, between LS and Andy I have all the Twits I can handle.
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At this point you HAVE to start Elliot over Miller.....Hitchcock won't do it, and "hockey people" won't agree, but they're wrong.
griffin
have you tried twitting them this information?
Seriously, between LS and Andy I have all the Twits I can handle.
griffin
damn.........
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Yes. After all, he's won 2 games in the last 40 days.
I said he's a great back up. Good mate. Glad we have him. And no twit is going to change my mind on that, particularly one who can't see a tree in a forest.
bwaaaaaaaaaa
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Yes. After all, he's won 2 games in the last 40 days.
I said he's a great back up. Good mate. Glad we have him. And no twit is going to change my mind on that, particularly one who can't see a tree in a forest.
bwaaaaaaaaaa
Oh, yeah, that's him......the guy with the 1.97 GAA and the same save percentage as Miller.
You guys are boneheads.......really.
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Yeah. Hitch and Armstrong are boneheads.
You can't get me to rag on Elliott. Hope he wins every time out. Just trying to tell you why he doesn't play much. Why he's been a back up for most of his time here.
You can throw all the stats out there you want. Fact is in four years he's been basically a back up goalie. Every single time he's rolled hot he fades and goes back to the bench. EVERY. TIME.
THAT"S why he's a back up. Stats have zero to do with it.
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Miller is a stud! Could he be the final piece to get the Note deep in the playoffs???
Discuss amongst yourselves...
This is one of those hockey deals that is good for both teams. If you look at raw numbers this year the Sabres got the best deal.....if you look at where the players fit within an organization, the Blues may have just wrapped up a trip to the finals.
I, for one, am not happy to see Halak or Stewart go.....but I think it's a good move for them too, because I think the organization had lost confidence in them.
I'll say this.....the trade has been made....play Miller every day....he's your guy now, live or die with him.
griffin
Did you mean every day for a week??
Live or die with him......well....it sounded good at the time.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....you two knuckleheads change your opinion like diapers on a 1 year old.
"live or die".....bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Miller is a stud! Could he be the final piece to get the Note deep in the playoffs???
Discuss amongst yourselves...
This is one of those hockey deals that is good for both teams. If you look at raw numbers this year the Sabres got the best deal.....if you look at where the players fit within an organization, the Blues may have just wrapped up a trip to the finals.
I, for one, am not happy to see Halak or Stewart go.....but I think it's a good move for them too, because I think the organization had lost confidence in them.
I'll say this.....the trade has been made....play Miller every day....he's your guy now, live or die with him.
griffin
Did you mean every day for a week??
Live or die with him......well....it sounded good at the time.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....you two knuckleheads change your opinion like diapers on a 1 year old.
"live or die".....bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Admittedly, that was before I read up on Miller, the trade was already done, and I was listening to the twits.
Not anymore.....Buffalo couldn't win with him, and hey, WE GOT THE OLYMPIC BACKUP!!! Not a #1.....a BACKUP! You apparently understand that part.
Elliot should start until he proves he's not worthy.....but having the second best GAA and one of the top Save% in the NHL right now doesn't prove that.
Sit Miller, play Elliot.
Twit..ter on!!!!!
griffin
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Yes.
Miller is a back up to Quick. And I agree. Even though your twit stats don't prove it.
See how easy that is?
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Man, that Ryan Miller sure was a stud tonight against a team that had lost 5 straight. What is the save % of 3 goals on 25 shots anyway?
I'm telling you.....this guy will carry us to the cup!!!!
Ryan Miller: "Yes, Pat, I think I'd like to buy a rebound". bwaaaahahahahahahahaaaaa
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HEY!!!!
Do you twits remember when we had the #2 and the #8 goalies in hockey instead of the #2 and #28?
I'm telling you, that trade would be a skunk in my book if we hadn't gotten Ott in the deal....because he's......washed up!!!!
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You like stats, right?
You base everything on them, right?
Here's a stat for you. The only one that matters.
Miller is 8-3 since he got here. Halak 4-4 since he left.
And GAA is a garbage stat for goalie play dude.
Try Save Percentage. But I don't give a chit about that one either.
And since this is so much fun to argue after a Blues WIN....and since now you have multiple Blues to rag on during one of their best seasons ever....what the fork is it you are looking for from Ott anyway?
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And since this is so much fun to argue after a Blues WIN....and since now you have multiple Blues to rag on during one of their best seasons ever....what the fork is it you are looking for from Ott anyway?
I'll settle for what he was billed as: "The guy everyone hates because he is so pesky but you wish he was on your team."
Where the fork is THAT guy? He's not hitting anyone, he's not fighting anyone, he's not PESKYING anyone.....he just looks like an old hockey player trying to make it to the end of his career.
And, if it's ok with you, can Miller PLEASE grab a rebound? I know he's leading us to the Stanley cup and all, but he spends more time sliding OUT of the goal crease than anyone goalie I've ever seen in my life.
Miller is not a winner......sorry. He's been on losing teams since he got to the league, he's team USA's BACKUP goalie, and you guys have blinders on.
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He is what he is. And that's better than Halak.
Elliott is what he is. A great back up.
105 pts....Be happy.
And Ott has 32 hits since joining the team. Stewie had that maybe the whole year. bwaaaaaaaa
Ott is 60% on face offs.
Those are the two main reasons why he's here. The rest is gravy.
105 pts....Be happy.
Elliott sharp as a tack off the bench...and I admit Miller has not been crazy stellar..... But by God, like the head twit once said... I do believe we need to live or die with him. bwaaaaaaaaaaa
105 pts....Be happy.
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I don't give a rats arse about 105 pts. All I care about is the Cup....and Miller hasn't shown me chit. In fact, he's been barely mediocre. Last night was a joke.
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Bubba, can you believe the way these two go back and forth? I can't!!
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I think they should thumb wrestle to decide who is right once and for all!
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Bubba, can you believe the way these two go back and forth? I can't!!
Hey....GREAT Save% by your boy last night.
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I think they should thumb wrestle to decide who is right once and for all!
at least go drink a beer or two together..
i imagine all three of em live within a half hour of one another or less..
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Yep Griff your boy Halak was a stud last night too if you didn't notice. Gave up three in the third period so the Kings could tie it and then win in a SO. Oh yeah and Halaks save % for the game was .8649... Just saying..
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I don't give a rats arse about 105 pts. All I care about is the Cup....and Miller hasn't shown me chit. In fact, he's been barely mediocre. Last night was a joke.
Boy when your lap dog was on the roster that's all we heard about was be happy we are in first.
So he gets canned, then you jump on Elliotts bandwagon and start singin your new tune and NOW it's all about the Cup.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa
It IS about the Cup. It's ALWAYS about the Cup. And the midget was never going to get us there anyway.
So now we go with your last weeks live or die guy and Ell's is on the pine waiting for the call. Beautiful!
We are MILES ahead of 3 weeks ago. I can see for MILES and MILES and MIIIIIIILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Haus....I'd have a beer with 'ol Patrick Henry here but he'd prolly change his mind on sumpthin before I could get my first gulp down.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
| last_stand |
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Oh..... and Sportsmn can come too....we need sumbody to buy the rounds.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!
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Haus - can you brew up some TwoTwit IPA?
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How bout some "Live or Die I didn't Mean That Stout?"
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Pretty decent save % tonight...
That was a fun game to watch! Oshie has more fun playing than about anyone.
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If Miller doesn't adjust to this team, and learn to stay on his skates on a 2 on 1, or when there is a scramble in front of the net, he's not going to get it done.
This game was fine for Miller, but that team can't play with the Blues, and the goal he gave up is typical of all the goals he has given up......he's off his feet and can't adjust, or becomes completely out of position.
If you can't see that, you don't know jack chit about hockey. Miller will see plenty of 2 on 1's in the playoffs, and so far, from what I have seen, he sucks at defending them.
I don't like goalies who play on their knees.....and Miller can't get off his.
griffin
| last_stand |
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I think he bites early and bites strong and that leads to some of his position problems.
But c'mon griffin. You're lookin ate up on hatin this guy. This is NOT the play to use rip on him. Good grief he had to stay with the puck and once the pass got thru no way he could get across the net to stop a perfect shot from Parise. Bang Bang. Who in the fork is stopping that shot?
No one.
I guess Panger doesn't know hockey. He tells it like it is and as he said "there was nothing he could do about that one."
I know it's hard for you to accept but we're better off with him than Halak. Warts and all. Armstrong was never dying to get Ryan Miller, he just wanted to get rid of Halak and find what he could to improve the team.
Is Miller a Cup winning goalie? A SCF goalie? I don't know, but right now he's far better than Halak.
| last_stand |
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| 03/28/14 10:48 AM |
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And Congrats to Oshie on his first hat trick. Pretty cool.
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I'm out ! Can't worry bout the Blues, I'm focusing on the Flames. I'll just throw my support to whatever LS says!! He doesn't appear to have a real life outside the Blues anyway , so he must be right. ( except for that chicken snobbery trait)
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Where is Bunny Larocque when you need him?
Go Blues!!
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I think he bites early and bites strong and that leads to some of his position problems.
But c'mon griffin. You're lookin ate up on hatin this guy. This is NOT the play to use rip on him. Good grief he had to stay with the puck and once the pass got thru no way he could get across the net to stop a perfect shot from Parise. Bang Bang. Who in the fork is stopping that shot?
No one.
I guess Panger doesn't know hockey. He tells it like it is and as he said "there was nothing he could do about that one."
I know it's hard for you to accept but we're better off with him than Halak. Warts and all. Armstrong was never dying to get Ryan Miller, he just wanted to get rid of Halak and find what he could to improve the team.
Is Miller a Cup winning goalie? A SCF goalie? I don't know, but right now he's far better than Halak.
Dude....I can't even stomach listening to Pang regarding Miller....it makes me want to puke and I'm pretty sure it's the reason Miller spends so much time on his knees.
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I think he bites early and bites strong and that leads to some of his position problems.
But c'mon griffin. You're lookin ate up on hatin this guy. This is NOT the play to use rip on him. Good grief he had to stay with the puck and once the pass got thru no way he could get across the net to stop a perfect shot from Parise. Bang Bang. Who in the fork is stopping that shot?
No one.
I guess Panger doesn't know hockey. He tells it like it is and as he said "there was nothing he could do about that one."
I know it's hard for you to accept but we're better off with him than Halak. Warts and all. Armstrong was never dying to get Ryan Miller, he just wanted to get rid of Halak and find what he could to improve the team.
Is Miller a Cup winning goalie? A SCF goalie? I don't know, but right now he's far better than Halak.
Dude....I can't even stomach listening to Pang regarding Miller....it makes me want to puke and I'm pretty sure it's the reason Miller spends so much time on his knees.
Holy jumpin'!! I asked you to take over being last stand's antagonist for a while, not drive him to drinking...
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Pang tells it like it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnSd94OONfU&feature=player_embedded
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I thought you liked Pang....he was a midget goalie too.
Love the Panger!!!
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http://www.stltoday.com/sports/hockey/pr...aec4b268a5.html
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http://www.stltoday.com/sports/hockey/pr...aec4b268a5.html
I agree......Miller is absolutely STEALING some victories for us!!!
griffin
| last_stand |
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Boy that was restrained.
You must be losing some of your stuff. I think you were more pizzed off after some of our wins.
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Dude....we are 9-3 with that guy and his .912 save percentage as a Blue (near the bottom of the NHL). I'm just happy we haven't had this guy all year....he has lost 25% of the games he started.
I'm sure he'll come around in the playoffs when the pace is a little slower, there are less 2 on 1's, etc.
It'll be absolutely comical because you'll jump up and down about how it wasn't his fault and he got no help, and blah,blah,blah......the same way you twitted on about how we couldn't win with what we had.
Stand by for an epic playoff failure......seriously.
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| 03/30/14 06:26 PM |
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Miller and the whole team played like crap last night. I sure hope they can dial it up for the playoff run..
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Miller and the whole team played like crap last night. I sure hope they can dial it up for the playoff run..
What about Miller's play thus far has led you to believe that?
I have seen NOTHING from Miller except that the other team's goalie has outplayed him 50% of the time.
| last_stand |
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Dude....we are 9-3 with that guy and his .912 save percentage as a Blue (near the bottom of the NHL). I'm just happy we haven't had this guy all year....he has lost 25% of the games he started.
I'm sure he'll come around in the playoffs when the pace is a little slower, there are less 2 on 1's, etc.
It'll be absolutely comical because you'll jump up and down about how it wasn't his fault and he got no help, and blah,blah,blah......the same way you twitted on about how we couldn't win with what we had.
Stand by for an epic playoff failure......seriously.
Epic playoff failure? Maybe. I ain't a fortune teller. But we had plenty of those epics with Halak and Elliott over the past four years so how is this all of Miller's fault now? Where were you then??
Or was it YOU saying they got no help?
I have never with held criticism over the past years regarding our D and when they played poorly. Which is exactly how they have played of late. Piss poor to be exact.
At the same time, the last two Dallas games the Stars have looked like world beaters.
My whole point with you is that Miller is better than Halak. Not that he is Jesus Christ or Glenn Hall. Just better than Halak. And that speaks more about Halaks play and readiness than Miller's. And I'll stand by that cuzz I ain't goin back in Halaks corner. I did that for 3 and 1/2 years and I'm done with him.
As for Elliott, he's had 10 chances to be our #1. The fact he's not? That's why they got Miller. This ain't rocket science. Armstrong shipped his own guy out the door and got what he could on the market to better the team and NOW it was all a mistake because Halak really never did let in soft goals, got injured all the time or thru a fit during team playoffs or had the flu 3 X's a year AND Elliott is NOW really ready to be a true #1.
Armstrong and Hitchcock DID NOT BUY IT. they ran out of patience with Halak and they could not count on Elliott to play as a #1 and I don't nor will I ever blame them for making this change. If it doesn't work it doesn't work and we end up just like we did the past 2 years anyway.
I want a Cup run. If Elliott is ready to go that distance then hell yes, let him have it. I love him as a great back up but need convincing still that he can go deep and play well for extended periods.
When Hitch believes Miller is not the guy, he won't be the guy no more. Bet that.
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This must be how baseball conversations go on the north side of Chicago...
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Absolutely stellar.....amazing what he can do when he stays off his knees.
griffin
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Oh he sprawled out and flopped. Yes he did. But he did position himself much better and did not bite on the cheese so quickly.
Great game to watch. This is going to be one hell of a play off season. So many good teams.
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Miller gets the shutout. Elliott misses it by less than 2 mins... Clearly, Miller is the better netminder.
Any questions?
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Missed both games this weekend...and it appears I am glad I did.
Not exactly the kind of play to get ready for the post season, huh?
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I would say they're in trouble.
You can't be playing your worst hockey of the year heading into the playoffs....that formula has never worked.
5-5 over last ten games, only 8 goals total for 8 of those games......not looking good.
griffin
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Here are the troubles as I see them:
Fatigue is going to take it's toll on every team but maybe a little more on the Blues, with so many in the Olympics. They are certainly lacking that spark we've seem most of the season. Are they just gassed?
Scoring is always tough in the playoffs. Tarasenko is doubtful for the start of the playoffs and I have no idea what to expect with Steen's return. If both of them are out, this team seems to have trouble scoring. Pretty disappointing that others have not stepped up and filled the voids. Reason for concern.
Guts and heart. One trait this team has shown all year and even more in the past few weeks is the grit it takes to get out of a mini-slump, in the middle of a game. It seems once they get down and show a poor effort, it gets worse not better, as the game progresses. I know last stand thinks I'm nuts but Backes is a great player and weak "C". I would rather have Jackman or even Roy or Morrow as a "C". Backes has a tendancy to get a little wild when the Blues are down by one or two goals and take dumb penalties, at the worst possible times. I think he is doing that to try to "lead" the team. Since he doesn't have real leadership skills he just does what he thinks will show everyone else how hard you can play. Being one of the best players in the NHL doesn't do us much good when he's sitting in the penalty box, with 3 or 4 mins to go and down by a goal.
On the bright side:
The goaltending should be top-notch!!
They have a great NHL coach that has his name on the Cup already. He knows what it takes to win, in the playoffs.
They have one of the best balanced defenses in the NHL and they are all healthy.
They have the talent up front. They just need to get it clickin in these last few games.
Go Blue!!
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They have one of the best balanced defenses in the NHL and they are all healthy....
.....and playing like chit. In 5 of the last 10 games the Blues have allowed 4 goals. They will NEVER win with defense like that.
griffin
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The whole team is playing like chit. I can't argue that the defense is not playing it's best but when the Blues are losing like they have been it is as much about the forwards not playing a 200' game as anything.
I'll tell you who I can't figure out is Berglund. That dude was coming on stong in the 2nd half and looking like the player everyone thought he could be. Now he's playing like some kind of a 4th line role player again. Guys like him have to step up, when Tarasenko and Steen go down.
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Honestly.....to imply that this slump is on Backes is a joke. He never slacks. Guys got one speed. And Jackman needs more ice time to be a Captain....what is he a #4 or 5??
We are like 39-1 when we score 3 goals or more. While an off D can be very bad, you got a absolutely, guaranteed disaster on our hands if you can't score goals.
Steen and Senko not helping in the dressing room. I hope it's rest and recovery for Steener, he hasn't been right since coming back.
Problems in both areas right now but give me goals to climb out of this.
Ducks have lost 2 in a row, Hawks have not been much better than us lately and the Pens are 5-5 like us too. No smooth sailing for any club it appears.
They gotta snap out of this and find ways to score the goals. I would think play in front of the net is key. Shoot the forkin puck and get in front of the net guys
C'ya.....Gotta go light a candle.
| last_stand |
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| 04/07/14 06:07 PM |
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This sports board is out of whack on my computer.....threads are all jumbled up out of order....got any tips for me woo??
TX
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Honestly.....to imply that this slump is on Backes is a joke. He never slacks. Guys got one speed.
Do you actually read any of the posts or do you just see Backes and go all Foghorn Leghorn on us? Nobody is blaming the slump on Backes. The whole team is playing like chit.
And maybe take the blinders off or at least adjust them a little so you can get a peek at what is obvious to eveyone else. Backes is a great player, maybe MVP material. But he takes too many bad penalties at really critical times. He was really bad about it last year in the playoffs and he's done it a few times in the last several games. That's not what you want your "C" to be doing...
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This sports board is out of whack on my computer.....threads are all jumbled up out of order....got any tips for me woo??
TX
check your pm
| last_stand |
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Backes is a great player, maybe MVP material.
I've never seen any one who can beat you at fence sitting.
Great player...MVP...but wait a minute.... no....can't be Captain.
Good God man. They have meds now for this kind of thing.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Really?? Miller is going to lead us to the cup? Gimme a forking break!!!!!
This prick loves giving up 4 goals.....it's his standard.
I hate this corksucker.
griffin
| last_stand |
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Miller?? Played no better no worse than most rest of the team.
This is beyond goal tending. But you already know that.
If Wayne "Cola" Gretzky takes yet another shot from the blue line he should be benched. Wait....bench him anyway.
Blues are clearly reeling once they get behind. that is the trend. Playing hard to start but Bam! spiral down once they get behind.
Miller and this team need to stay with all 60 minutes. Offense needs more shots and the D has to avoid getting caught on the 2 on 1's.
Puck possession, quick transitions and fore checking.
Same thing that got them where they were 2 weeks ago but all the more important with Steens game being off and Senko on the pine.
If Backes's injury is minor, I think they'll turn this around. I really do. Ya'll can jump off the wagon but I'm stayin put.
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And so it begins.......
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I was not even considering just how low this team can get before the end of the season but last night was a revelation along those lines.
WOW.
I am stuck believing a light switch will turn them on come next Wednesday.
For who ever is left, that is.
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Last night's game was a complete embarrassment. Players running into each other, poor clearing attempts, minimal puck support, giving up a SHG, and generally weak play. I have never seen this team play so poor defensively. When the other team transitions into our zone, it looks like the forwards have no idea how to come back and defend. The defense is scattered and the goaltending has been abysmal. I was/am a big supporter of the Miller trade but he needs to be 10X better than he is right now. If we wanted to give up 4 goals a game, we could have just kept Halak.
I have no idea what it takes for them to go back to their winning ways but it is clear they are in a funk that makes them look like a Div II college hockey team could beat. I honestly thought I was watching one of the pathetic mid-2000's teams we had.
Let's hope like hell they can turn it around but it ain't lookin' good... If they play tonight, like they did last night, I would predict a 10-0 or 12-0 loss. Dallas is hungry...
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I'll give y'all credit---
no one has jumped off the bandwagon..................
yet
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I'll give y'all credit---
no one has jumped off the bandwagon..................
Just like a Cubs fan, I may get frustrated but "Hope springs eternal..."
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Last night's game was a complete embarrassment. Players running into each other, poor clearing attempts, minimal puck support, giving up a SHG, and generally weak play. I have never seen this team play so poor defensively. When the other team transitions into our zone, it looks like the forwards have no idea how to come back and defend. The defense is scattered and the goaltending has been abysmal. I was/am a big supporter of the Miller trade but he needs to be 10X better than he is right now. If we wanted to give up 4 goals a game, we could have just kept Halak.
I have no idea what it takes for them to go back to their winning ways but it is clear they are in a funk that makes them look like a Div II college hockey team could beat. I honestly thought I was watching one of the pathetic mid-2000's teams we had.
Let's hope like hell they can turn it around but it ain't lookin' good... If they play tonight, like they did last night, I would predict a 10-0 or 12-0 loss. Dallas is hungry...
Dude....wake up!!! Miller has been a joke since he got here. I'll say it again.....YOU DON'T TRADE ONE OF THE GOALIES WHO HAS LED YOU TO BE THE NUMBER 1 TEAM IN HOCKEY WITH 3/4 OF THE SEASON IN THE BANK!!!
This will go down as one of the dumbest trades in Blues history.
I watched the first 2 goals tonight and I'm done. Miller is HORRIBLE!!! Yeah, I know, "oh, but the injuries, and blah,blah,blah". Forking save it.
griffin
| IIFID |
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Looks like they are in a free fall...
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Personally I thought after a horrendous game Thursday nite Miller played pretty good last night.
But Hitch will have a short leash for Miller in the play offs. Ells will be ready.
If the Blues go down in round one the trade whine will be heard from here to Saskatoon for a hundred years.
I guess it's going to be Chicago. A good test indeed.
Too bad you're done with them griff.........if we get the guys back whom you claim don't matter, this is going to be a hell of a playoff series.
GO BLUE!!
| last_stand |
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Should be a great ending today.
I'd say Bubba has the edge but his putting is very much in question.
Speith pretty incredible kid. All round solid. Amazing.
Blixt not far off that mark either.
Lot's of players to root for. Freddy, Miguel, and the Walrus JR. would all be cool to win.
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Should be a great ending today.
I'd say Bubba has the edge but his putting is very much in question.
Speith pretty incredible kid. All round solid. Amazing.
Blixt not far off that mark either.
Lot's of players to root for. Freddy, Miguel, and the Walrus JR. would all be cool to win.
Hung over is ya. Seen it right off.
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Should be a great ending today.
I'd say Bubba has the edge but his putting is very much in question.
Speith pretty incredible kid. All round solid. Amazing.
Blixt not far off that mark either.
Lot's of players to root for. Freddy, Miguel, and the Walrus JR. would all be cool to win.
Especially if Miller is on net
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It looks like Miller will be golfing soon...
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It looks like Miller will be golfing soon...
Looks like sptsman has finally beat LS down...poor fellow.
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Well, I didn't watch today's game but I just looked at the final box score and recap. Not pretty...
I would have to say this is the biggest meltdown I have ever seen firsthand. I'm sure there are some other epic failures in sports, of this nature but it is really something to see up close. On one hand, you have to think that anything can happen in the playoffs and they can turn this around. On the other hand, you have to be realistic and think this team has completely lost whatever mojo they had. I can't think of a single player that deserves a grade of C or better, in the last 10 games and most deserve F's, including the coach.
I will tune in to watch the playoffs and will hold out hope that this mess turns around. But I'm not optimistic. The Hawks may even sweep them...
griffin - Feel free to bloviate all you want about the goaltending but that is about 2% of the issue here. This is a complete team failure. They have scored 5 goals in the month of April. That is the last 8 games. Unless your theory is that Halak and Elliott would have scored a dozen goals or more, in the last 8 games, netminding isn't an issue to worry about. They have waaaaay bigger issues right now.
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Well, I didn't watch today's game but I just looked at the final box score and recap. Not pretty...
I would have to say this is the biggest meltdown I have ever seen firsthand. I'm sure there are some other epic failures in sports, of this nature but it is really something to see up close. On one hand, you have to think that anything can happen in the playoffs and they can turn this around. On the other hand, you have to be realistic and think this team has completely lost whatever mojo they had. I can't think of a single player that deserves a grade of C or better, in the last 10 games and most deserve F's, including the coach.
I will tune in to watch the playoffs and will hold out hope that this mess turns around. But I'm not optimistic. The Hawks may even sweep them...
griffin - Feel free to bloviate all you want about the goaltending but that is about 2% of the issue here. This is a complete team failure. They have scored 5 goals in the month of April. That is the last 8 games. Unless your theory is that Halak and Elliott would have scored a dozen goals or more, in the last 8 games, netminding isn't an issue to worry about. They have waaaaay bigger issues right now.
Whatever bro......you don't make trades that can completely change the chemistry of a team that is leading the league....it's dumb beyond belief. Yeah, there are injuries and blah,blah,blah.....but the Blues have not been the same team since the trade. You just don't do it.....it's retarded.
Hitchcock has blabbered on and on about how Miller needs time to get used to his new team, and on and on and on....it's all crap, because if that's the case then you don't make the trade at that time.
LS - name me the team that has advanced past even one round going into the playoffs with a 6 game losing streak....get over it.
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It's the reigning Stanley Cup Champs for round 1.
No sense in forkin around. Might as well cut right to the cheese and get to the big dogs up front.
On a 6 game losing streak.
Hollllllly chit. Only the Blues could put themselves in this hole. In all their years of pursuit......and I mean a lot of years....this one can't even rank as deja vu all over again.
This one stands alone.
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Well, I didn't watch today's game but I just looked at the final box score and recap. Not pretty...
I would have to say this is the biggest meltdown I have ever seen firsthand. I'm sure there are some other epic failures in sports, of this nature but it is really something to see up close. On one hand, you have to think that anything can happen in the playoffs and they can turn this around. On the other hand, you have to be realistic and think this team has completely lost whatever mojo they had. I can't think of a single player that deserves a grade of C or better, in the last 10 games and most deserve F's, including the coach.
I will tune in to watch the playoffs and will hold out hope that this mess turns around. But I'm not optimistic. The Hawks may even sweep them...
griffin - Feel free to bloviate all you want about the goaltending but that is about 2% of the issue here. This is a complete team failure. They have scored 5 goals in the month of April. That is the last 8 games. Unless your theory is that Halak and Elliott would have scored a dozen goals or more, in the last 8 games, netminding isn't an issue to worry about. They have waaaaay bigger issues right now.
Whatever bro......you don't make trades that can completely change the chemistry of a team that is leading the league....it's dumb beyond belief. Yeah, there are injuries and blah,blah,blah.....but the Blues have not been the same team since the trade. You just don't do it.....it's retarded.
Hitchcock has blabbered on and on about how Miller needs time to get used to his new team, and on and on and on....it's all crap, because if that's the case then you don't make the trade at that time.
LS - name me the team that has advanced past even one round going into the playoffs with a 6 game losing streak....get over it.
griffin
Well Sprtsman and I seldom agree but no way am I putting this thing all on Miller or that trade.
His share, his due? For sure. But he has not CAUSED a collapse. He just got on this team and now he has ruined it? You and a gazzilion other fans will be saying it for years......it's an easy goat to kick around....but it doesn't answer what went so wrong.
The regular season is over and yeah, I'll watch and while i wouldn't bet the house on this team I can see a lot of ways for us to take Chicago down. If they come to play.
6 straight games gone down or not, I still think we have a shot. I know we do.
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Well, I didn't watch today's game but I just looked at the final box score and recap. Not pretty...
I would have to say this is the biggest meltdown I have ever seen firsthand. I'm sure there are some other epic failures in sports, of this nature but it is really something to see up close. On one hand, you have to think that anything can happen in the playoffs and they can turn this around. On the other hand, you have to be realistic and think this team has completely lost whatever mojo they had. I can't think of a single player that deserves a grade of C or better, in the last 10 games and most deserve F's, including the coach.
I will tune in to watch the playoffs and will hold out hope that this mess turns around. But I'm not optimistic. The Hawks may even sweep them...
griffin - Feel free to bloviate all you want about the goaltending but that is about 2% of the issue here. This is a complete team failure. They have scored 5 goals in the month of April. That is the last 8 games. Unless your theory is that Halak and Elliott would have scored a dozen goals or more, in the last 8 games, netminding isn't an issue to worry about. They have waaaaay bigger issues right now.
Whatever bro......you don't make trades that can completely change the chemistry of a team that is leading the league....it's dumb beyond belief. Yeah, there are injuries and blah,blah,blah.....but the Blues have not been the same team since the trade. You just don't do it.....it's retarded.
Hitchcock has blabbered on and on about how Miller needs time to get used to his new team, and on and on and on....it's all crap, because if that's the case then you don't make the trade at that time.
LS - name me the team that has advanced past even one round going into the playoffs with a 6 game losing streak....get over it.
griffin
Well Sprtsman and I seldom agree but no way am I putting this thing all on Miller or that trade.
His share, his due? For sure. But he has not CAUSED a collapse. He just got on this team and now he has ruined it? You and a gazzilion other fans will be saying it for years......it's an easy goat to kick around....but it doesn't answer what went so wrong.
The regular season is over and yeah, I'll watch and while i wouldn't bet the house on this team I can see a lot of ways for us to take Chicago down. If they come to play.
6 straight games gone down or not, I still think we have a shot. I know we do.
Pay attention Ridalin boy. I said you don't mess with a team that is first in the league and playing well as a team. It was a stupid trade at that time and it remains a stupid trade.
It's stupid besides the fact that Miller is worse than the 2 goalies we had and Ott is a joke.
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Just for you LS...
It can happen.
It has been a while since a team slumped as badly coming into the playoffs as the Blues did: the year was 1993. The Buffalo Sabres came into the NHL playoffs on a six-game losing streak, after finishing fourth in the Adams Division. They faced the best team in that said division, the Boston Bruins, who were red-hot coming in. The Sabres shocked the League, going on to sweep the Bruins 4-0, and earning a berth in the second round. (The Blues also swept the Blackhawks in the first round that year).
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jsr .... what you are saying is the odds are about a million to one.......so........that means we still have a chance???
Go Blue!
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Backes, Sobi, Senko, Petro, Morrow and Jax all back on the ice today.
Oshie not but was yesterday. Who knows.
Bergy still out.
A banged up team for sure, hope we can get as many as possible on the ice Thursday nite.
Miller needs to play on his head and this team needs to manage the puck for every second they can account for.
EVERY FORKING SECOND.
It's a long shot....but GO BLUE!!
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Chicago has firepower. If you knew this matchup was coming a few months ago, you would have siad the Blues need to figure out a way to shut them down or keep up with them. Based on what we've seen in the last 10 games, it is hard to imagine them doing either. They haven't been able to even slow down average teams, much less good ones. Then you look at the offense they've shown and it is downright scary.
The only way I see them beating Chicago is to keep them to 2 or 3 goals and hope like heck they can find th back of the net themselves, one more time than the Hawks. They simply cannot take dumb penalties and they can't get out-worked. Both are areas the Blues have shown to struggle in recent playoffs.
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Post Dispatch
Blues-Blackhawks:5 Things to watch
4. MILLER CAN’T BE MEDIOCRE
Blues coach Ken Hitchcock said that his goaltender, Ryan Miller, has to be “great” in this series. No pressure, eh? There has been a lot of hype regarding Miller since his arrival from Buffalo on Feb. 28, and it’s been hard to live up to the headlines. Miller went 10-8-1 with a 2.47 goals-against average and a .903 save percentage with the Blues, but that was after a 7-1 start. He is 0-5 in his last five starts with a 3.82 GAA and .856 save percentage, but that can, in part, be attributed to injuries and poor play in front of him. Miller’s career numbers in the playoffs, all with Buffalo, include a record of 25-22 in 47 games with a 2.46 GAA and .917 save percentage with three shutouts. He took the Sabres to the Eastern Conference finals in 2005-06 and ’06-’07, but the club lost to Carolina and Ottawa, respectively.
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A couple of you Homers , you know who you are, better get the Suicide Hotline set up on your speed dial .Just sayin'
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Post Dispatch
Blues-Blackhawks:5 Things to watch
4. MILLER CAN’T BE MEDIOCRE
Blues coach Ken Hitchcock said that his goaltender, Ryan Miller, has to be “great” in this series. No pressure, eh? There has been a lot of hype regarding Miller since his arrival from Buffalo on Feb. 28, and it’s been hard to live up to the headlines. Miller went 10-8-1 with a 2.47 goals-against average and a .903 save percentage with the Blues, but that was after a 7-1 start. He is 0-5 in his last five starts with a 3.82 GAA and .856 save percentage, but that can, in part, be attributed to injuries and poor play in front of him. Miller’s career numbers in the playoffs, all with Buffalo, include a record of 25-22 in 47 games with a 2.46 GAA and .917 save percentage with three shutouts. He took the Sabres to the Eastern Conference finals in 2005-06 and ’06-’07, but the club lost to Carolina and Ottawa, respectively.
entire article
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/hockey/pr...85f974af77.html
I share that concern. And we are talking the Stanly Cup Champs here too, all the more concern.
But last night the first three games were played in the playoffs.
19 total goals were scored, all in one goal games.
The Blues have scored NINE goals in their last NINE games.
Goal tending is always important, but the Blues have to find a way to score too...multiple goals....if they expect to advance or even compete.
It's Miller, it's puck control, it's quick transition, it's goals. We need 'em all.
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A couple of you Homers , you know who you are, better get the Suicide Hotline set up on your speed dial .Just sayin'
Just popped a couple of ridilin and I'm washing it down with 10 year old bourbon.
LIFE is good here. It's play off hockey and the underdogs are under siege!!!
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Wow!!! Miller has been AMAZING so far!!!
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nerves eye suppose Ojibway
Stoned um since
Could have bin a win in regulation.what.2 posts & a crossbar
Be a shame to lose this one.
Loved the hittin the last few minutes on boff sides
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It is pretty ironic that of all the places in the world...deep in the heart of San Louie....
...it has became Miller time
didn't see the first period but have watched the rest of the game. Who is gonna score first in O T?
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The Blues...
And did you see that goal? What a feed from Ott. So you have Miller standing on his head to hold the Hawks to 0 goals in 4+ periods and Ott feeding the game winner. Now we can rank that trade as the best in Blues history. And Ott may be the best player ever to wear the note...
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I falled asleep after the first ot period.
I didn't see the first period but Miller looked good the rest of the game with the exception of being out of position once and La Pierre save them from going to the shows as losers.
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Well...there goes that streak.
Under the circumstances, while far from perfect, not sure you could ask for a better game to start the series off.
Our best players showed up. Our role players played their role. I mean every one gave what it took to win.
And the coolest play of the night? Had to be Ott's little game winning drop pass assist in front of the net to end the long night. Sweetness.
Welcome back Mr. Steen.
Long way to go but a great start. And not unnoticed, a great COME FROM BEHIND win.
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Wow!!! Miller has been AMAZING so far!!!
griffin
Glad to see you are on top of things. Please do keep these honest, impartial in-game updates coming....I'd be lost with out them.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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It is pretty ironic that of all the places in the world...deep in the heart of San Louie....
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didn't see the first period but have watched the rest of the game. Who is gonna score first in O T?
Beer snob.
Glad the goalie could be of some assistance. I was worried....
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Wow!!! Miller has been AMAZING so far!!!
griffin
Glad to see you are on top of things. Please do keep these honest, impartial in-game updates coming....I'd be lost with out them.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Miller was horrible in the first......and he wasn't even the Blues best goalie in the OT.
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Wow!!! Miller has been AMAZING so far!!!
griffin
Glad to see you are on top of things. Please do keep these honest, impartial in-game updates coming....I'd be lost with out them.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Miller was horrible in the first......and he wasn't even the Blues best goalie in the OT.
griffin
Other than letting in the game tying goal with 1:45 left and then letting in the game winning goal in Triple OT I agree.
Though I can see your point. I remain objective.
But that's a lot easier to do do if you haven't fallen in love with a midget and lost all perspective.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Might get the next few games on the radio, might not.......but no matter.
Go BLUE!!!!!
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Is it just me or does Joel Quenneville look like he's losing his cool (and his mind)? For a guy that always looked as stoic as any coach I've ever seen, he's all but gone berzerk in these games. And now that he's been fined for the crotch grab ($25K) the cameras are on him constantly.
Let's hope the Blues can take one of these in Chicago and come back home for a game 5 wrap-up.
Still haven't heard any "real" new on Backes. Is it just a mild concussion? Are his brains scrambled? Is he Perron/Crosby bad or going to be back and a few days? Losing him for more than a game or two would put a serious dent in their Cup chances.
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Anybody besides me see where the Blues lost last night? Just curious.
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Anybody besides me see where the Blues lost last night? Just curious.
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I saw where the team who played best, with a "premier" goalie, had the game stolen by a second tier goalie.
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I didn't see chit but heard if you give up a soft goal and then fail to score any goals you will lose.
Sure feels like we have to steal one in Chicago. Easier said than done.
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I'm sure glad we got Miller.....he will surely lead us to the cup.
The Blues are playing good.....Miller is adequate at best.
Ott has played decently, Miller is a disappointment overall. Crawford is clearly better in this series.
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Miller is playing adequate.
He has been disappointing over all.
Crawford may get a slight edge so far. It is very slight.
But sorry, the Blues did not play well last night for huge segments of time, particularly with the lead and 7 to go and then of course in OT.
We hung back and waited to get beat in regulation. Barely survived a loss there.
And in the OT Kane literally walked in 4 times like he was some kind of prophet.
All and all it's been a great series, imo the best going on right now. Look around at the other games, the other play, and we stack up pretty good.
We. Need. David. Backes.
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The Blues could and should be up 3-1, if Miller plays the way we all (except griffin) thought he could. We needed him to help steal a game in Chicago and all we got was Halak-like performances.
Holding close leads has been an issue for the Blues. They just haven't seemed to learn how to put their foot on the throat of an opponent and finish them off. Up by a goal with 7 mins to go should be a done deal. They should have turned up the pressure, the hitting, the forechecking and generally shut the Hawks down with aggressive play. Instead, they play back on their heels and try not to lose. It reminds me of the prevent defense in football. It is fastest way to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory I can think of.
I have to wonder if Backes is done for the year and this "upper body injury" talk is just to distract everyone. It wouldn't surprise me. I hope that isn't the case but it seems to happen regularly in sports these days.
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The Blues could and should be up 3-1, if Miller plays the way we all (except griffin) thought he could.
HA!!! They could just as easily be swept and done. Miller is not impressive at all. But he's playing about as well as he did in Buffalo so not really a surprise.
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Personally, I never called Miller elite.
I just said he's better than Halak, which he is.
You wanna think we are 2-2 with 3 OT games using the midget in goal fine with me. I don't waste my time dreaming about such things. bwaaaaaaaaaaaa
There are a ton of issues surrounding the Blues great play and yeah, there lackluster play.
Goalie is just one of them.
Berglund and Oshie have been back for two games now. Time to contribute.
Backes isn't there to work Kane and Towes. Time for others, including our D, to contribute.
Sobi's doing his best but obviously no where near 100% healthy.
Where's Jbo been? I mean....on offense.
And our leading scorer, Steen, needs to score.
The whole 4th line, the youngsters Schwartz and Tarasenko, and a few of the older guys Lappy and Ott are doing their thing and playing well.
With Backes out we need the other best players to play their best.
And don't forget who we are playing against. These guys are a damn good hockey team. We are banged up and people need to step up and fill in to beat a team like Chicago.
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Personally, I never called Miller elite.
Dude......puleeeze. BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!
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Personally, I never called Miller elite.
Dude......puleeeze. BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!
griffin
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Personally, I never called Miller elite.
Dude......puleeeze. BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!
griffin
This guy is trying to straddle LS's fence.....with about the same success
Personally, I never called it a fence.
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Personally, I never called Miller elite.
Dude......puleeeze. BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!
griffin
This guy is trying to straddle LS's fence.....with about the same success
Personally, I never called it a fence.
griffin
"I'll say this.....the trade has been made....play Miller every day....he's your guy now, live or die with him."
griffin
And That's not me in that picture.
And it dam sure isn't sptsman. He'd be on one of those spikes.....standing on his head. bwaaaaaaaaaaa
And I'll take Miller over Halak any day of the week.
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| 04/26/14 02:12 AM |
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I bet there wasn't a single person in that building who thought Miller had a chance to make the save against Toews and prevent the game winning goal.
Miller is the last piece of the puzzle to get us to the cup!!!!!!
Nevermind that the puzzle was already the #1 team in hockey before he got here..... just stupid as hell.
griffin
| Bubba |
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| 04/26/14 05:29 PM |
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Miller sucks!
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| 04/26/14 08:47 PM |
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Miller sucks!
We traded one of a tandem of goalies from the best team in hockey for a goalie from the worst team in hockey.....and expected him to bring a winning game and attitude?
Dumbest crap ever!
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| 04/27/14 12:52 AM |
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And beer!
| Bubba |
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| 04/27/14 06:33 PM |
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He just sucked again.
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| 04/27/14 06:37 PM |
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There is no mystery here. When the Cardinals win a game........the Blues win the same day. The stats will bear out my theory.
God I hate that muthaforker announcing the Blues game.
Oh year, and Miller too.
| sptsman |
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| 04/27/14 11:07 PM |
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This team just lacks grit and playoff toughness. The Hawks played like they wanted to win the Cup again. The Blues played like it would be nice but really isn't all that important. The core group on this team has now lost 8 straight road playoffs games. Was any player on the Hawks intimidated in any way shape or form? Clearly some of the Blues were. I guess the Blues just don't have that extra gear that is needed for the NHL playoffs. Does Hitchcock get some of the blame for that? Hard to give him a pass...
I'm sure griffin will continue his bizarre rant bout "worst trade in all of sports history." But let's be real. Miller was a disappointment but hardly the reason for this collapse. There isn't a sane person Earth that honestly thinks the Blues would have won this series with Halak or Elliott between the pipes. The bottom line is the players that needed to step up and score, just didn't.
Until they prove otherwise, the Blues are the Cubs of the NHL.
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| 04/27/14 11:46 PM |
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I'm pretty sure dabs could have blocked that third score. I know I could have.
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| 04/28/14 12:10 AM |
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I'm sure griffin will continue his bizarre rant bout "worst trade in all of sports history." But let's be real. Miller was a disappointment but hardly the reason for this collapse. There isn't a sane person Earth that honestly thinks the Blues would have won this series with Halak or Elliott between the pipes.
Andy, give me a friggin' break with this crap. The Blues were 4-0 against the Hawks this season with Elliot and Halak. Miller sucks......he's a backup goalie on a USA team that isn't that good.
Now the Blues will be lucky to sign Elliott and why the hell would you want to sign Miller?
Miller was more than a disappointment......he sucked, period. He flops around like he doesn't have a clue, can't play an angle, and can't anticipate a pass.....if they sign his dumb arse they will only make a bad situation worse. Maybe there was a day Miller could play goal.....that day is gone, and shame on the Blues scouts for not seeing it. It's not like he played any different than he did this year in Buffalo.
Piss on the Blue's dumbass management.
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| 04/28/14 01:43 AM |
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I'll agree with Sptsman and Lastand. Miller wasn't brilliant, or even good for sure, but hardly the reason they lost the last 4 straight. When you are 0-7 on the power play as they were tonight -- you can't put that on the goalie. He11, even when it was even-strength tonight it sure seemed like the Hawks had the powerplay . . . . and they didn't! Injuries wore this team down and they didn't have anything left in the tank. The better team won, even if they did play dirty and cheat to get there.
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| 04/28/14 02:23 AM |
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I'll agree with Sptsman and Lastand. Miller wasn't brilliant, or even good for sure, but hardly the reason they lost the last 4 straight.
Then you don't agree with LS and Sptsman.....they've made it very clear that you can't win in the playoffs unless you have a goalie who is AT LEAST good......we didn't. Our goalie sucked.
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| 04/28/14 03:24 AM |
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The problem I have with all of the folks saying it wasn't Miller's faulty is that those are the same bastages who were hooting that we could now make a cup run JUST BECAUSE WE GOT MILLER. Uhhhh.......no!!! He sucks. The trade sucked!! Management messed with the chemistry of a team who had the best record in hockey! NOBODY DOES THAT!!!!
Wake the fork up!
griffin
| last_stand |
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| 04/28/14 11:14 AM |
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I'll give Miller the blame for failing to stop the 3 big huge break aways the Hawks scored on all at critical times.
And the soft game losing goal in game #3.
So he was not good enough to carry this team. He didn't do that. He was no different than Halak or Elliott in that regard.
Win 2 then lose 4. Same as last year.
So he gets his share from me.
And the rest of the team gets theirs. So much lacking on offense it's hard to know where to begin. And so many golden opportunities up in smoke.
A transition defense that didn't transition and then turned to butter.
So dead on..... Miller didn't make a difference. Samo samo Blues.
| sptsman |
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| 04/29/14 10:07 PM |
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Doug Armstrong nails it. I called it grit, he calls it "killer instinct". I used the analogy of the foot on the throat, uses the knife in the eye to the brain...
Doug Armstrong's assessment of Blues
Hitchcock and Armstrong need to take this team to a younger core. I see Tarasenko as not only a pure scorer but a guy with leadership skills. I've read countless stories and talked to people that interact with him. Without exception, he is considered a class act and natural born leader. Give him the "C" and let the old guard learn from him. If they keep going with the "seasoned veterans" teaching the young guns, the only thing they'll learn is how to collapse when it really counts.
Look for Allen/Elliott tandem in goal next year. Not only will the Blues not sign him, he likely cost himself millions with his playoff performance. But rest assured, someone will pay him...
| last_stand |
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| 04/29/14 10:39 PM |
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Take it to a younger core?
Let's get specific. Go thru the roster. Now who is going where?
I like the vast majority of this team. I see no problem with heart for the majority of our forwards. We do need a valid, #1 line playmaking goal scoring center. But we are at the cap, we have a lot of guys signed, so good luck with that. But no matter, that is one huge priority for this group.
I am ready to make a move on D. Just too dam soft for the playoffs. Love the transition game, and the idea behind it, but in the nhl you always need muscle when it gets down to April. Again, this is wishful thinking, but one big impact guy who can entirely alter our D.
I see these 2 big moves needed for sure. But not an over haul and not an intentional effort to "get younger" per say. We have the talent, we need the grit. We are close in many ways.
Who can go to TRY to land these guys?
Contracts aside... Berglund, Shattenkirk, Petro, Jbo, Rattie, Cole, Steen and host of others.
Sobi, Senko, Schwartz, Backes, = Untouchable. 2 of those are "youngsters".
As for the tender we remain ratforked. We need a good goalie and you have the 2 obvious choices. Elliott has been at his best as a back up and fill in. I like him in that role. But even there he might want to go or the Blues may use him to trade. That leaves Allen, a forkin rookie and basically, until proven, an unknown.
I like Armstrong and I can't blame him for moving Bishop but my gawd that ended up looking like one huge matzaball of a decision. Would he like to have a do over on that. Yes Sir he would.
And now the Miller move is on his resume as well.
Let's face it, we have not had a solid goalie in how many friggen years?
So for me we try to make a couple of big moves that might well upset the apple cart but change the missing dynamic for playoff hockey. I just don't know if DA can do it. I don't see either he or Hitch on the hot seat at this point and time but believe me they are looking hard at next year to get this team deep or they know they will be.
| Bubba |
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| 04/30/14 01:28 AM |
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Shake it off , boys, there is always next year!
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| 04/30/14 07:41 PM |
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I would make sure Roy (30) and Morrow (35) were not on the roster next year. Both took valuable ice time from some young guns that could have contributed and maybe even scored a goal or two. Both were a huge disappointment in the playoffs. Weren't they both here for "leadership"? Berglund is not old but he has been a huge disappointment. He came back from the Olympics and looked like the player we all know he can be, for about 2 weeks. Then, as usual for him, he disappears for weeks at a time.
I don't have that big of an issue with the "D". The bigger issue was lack of scoring and a goaltender that can stand on his head once in a while.
I will have to do some digging but I think the Blues are fine, with regards to the cap. If they let the FA's walk, that are not producing and don't sign Miller, they have some room. And how much room do you need to bring up Rattie, Jaskin, etc...
I was a huge fan of Armstrong and Hitchcock but some of this has to fall on them. While some of the deals didn't pan out, you have to give credit for the ones that did. Even the Miller deal wasn't all bad. They found someone to take Stewart's contract and that has value. Moving Bishop may prove to be his worst deal. We'll see.
| last_stand |
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| 05/07/14 09:25 PM |
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Still hung over....oance againe....with Blueless playoff hockey.
However, can't say I did not enjoy last nights double header with the Habs whippin the Bruins and the Wild getting their first win over the Hawks.
Too bad Pittsburgh did not play coulda been a trifecta.
It is great hockey but man could it be greater with a little more Blue on the ice.
oh yeah fork Sid Crosby.
| Bubba |
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| 05/20/14 10:30 PM |
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He gone....
What , no comments from either side of the great Miller debate ?
| last_stand |
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| 05/21/14 01:08 AM |
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He gone....
What , no comments from either side of the great Miller debate ?
Like "he gone" is some kind of Shakespearean commentary?
"He gone I glad".
There. Happy?
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| 05/21/14 02:30 AM |
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I have no idea who was ultimately responsible for the Miller debacle, but he should be fired.
It's obvious the Blues got a washed-up goalie on the back end of a decent career. His play was horrible. Call it whatever you want, that was just pizz poor goaltending from start to finish. Miller had one really good game as a Blue.....I think it was the Philly game. That's it.
You wannabe sports pundits can suck one.....there isn't anybody in the Blues organization who would go out on a limb for that forker after what he showed in his time here.
Geez....... one of the worst moves ever by a team with no shortage of boneheaded moves.
Dear Ryan Miller:
Don't just leave......get the fork out!! And take your cheering section with you.
griffin
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| 05/21/14 11:21 AM |
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And he had piss poor footwork too!
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| 05/21/14 08:11 PM |
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And was arrogant!
FYI , LS , "he gone" is a staple on the Duck Dynasty program. Shakespearean , not so much , but Willie , Jase and Philian...
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| 05/21/14 09:12 PM |
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can we move on to WORLD CUP...AT LEAST THE USA HAS A WORLD CLASS KEEPER!!!!!
NOT SO MUCH UP TOP BUT DEFINITELY A KEEPER...
I guess the pup Allen will lead the blues to the CUP in 2015.
| last_stand |
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| 06/01/14 12:01 AM |
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And was arrogant!
FYI , LS , "he gone" is a staple on the Duck Dynasty program. Shakespearean , not so much , but Willie , Jase and Philian...
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Duck Dynasty?
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I've seen a few clips of that show and I fail to see anything related to ducks or anything related to a dynasty. But keep them quotes comin and be sure to buy their coffee mugs. The "dynasty" depends on it. I met that Cy guy 30 years ago in southern Illinios. He must be laughin his azz off with this whole thing.
Back to hockey..........fork the Black Hawks.......watchin Kane go skate-free for another game winning goal makes me sick.
| Bubba |
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| 06/01/14 07:01 PM |
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Dude , it is June. Fork hockey ! Damn near as bad as a bowling league.
And if you are going to besmerch me , don't wait so long between posts.
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| 06/02/14 11:01 AM |
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oh the irony.
A duck dynasty fan telling me not to waste my time with play off hockey.
And it's besmirch. With an " I "
How'd I do?
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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| 06/02/14 11:57 AM |
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Was glad to see the Kings beat the Hawks. I have grown to really dislike the Hawks. They are good, to be sure but I just donlt like the way they acrry themselves. From coach Q to the last player on the roster, they are pricks!!
Now, let's hope the Blues can be hated like that some day...
I'll take the Kings over the Rangers in 5 or 6. I hope I'm wrong but I think they are a better team. Rangers have some emotion on their side with the St. Louis thing but that may have run it's course. If the Hawks were in it, I may not have watched a single minute of the Finals. At least now I can watch some of it...
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| 06/02/14 03:03 PM |
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oh the irony.
A duck dynasty fan telling me not to waste my time with play off hockey.
And it's besmirch. With an " I "
How'd I do?
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
You should have started the first sentence with a capital "O" ,and ended the third with some form of punctuation.
How'd I do ?
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| 06/03/14 12:15 AM |
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oh the irony.
A duck dynasty fan telling me not to waste my time with play off hockey.
And it's besmirch. With an " I "
How'd I do?
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
You should have started the first sentence with a capital "O" ,and ended the third with some form of punctuation.
How'd I do ?
We have been reduced to retired spell checkers. A new low!! Excellent!!!
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L before I except after M.
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L before I except after M.
Oh,you mean like lemming?
spell check that
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Does the database push your phone when someone mentions retired spell checker?
Staying the theme, there should be a space between "Oh," and "you".
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Does the database push your phone when someone mentions retired spell checker?
Staying the theme, there should be a space between "Oh," and "you".
Dude.....you can't put the comma between the quotes on "Oh".
WTF?
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| 06/03/14 10:38 AM |
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oh the irony.
A duck dynasty fan telling me not to waste my time with play off hockey.
And it's besmirch. With an " I "
How'd I do?
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
You should have started the first sentence with a capital "O" ,and ended the third with some form of punctuation.
How'd I do ?
I don't have time for that chit. I am not old and retired.
This besmirch chit is fun.
| last_stand |
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| 06/03/14 10:44 AM |
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Was glad to see the Kings beat the Hawks. I have grown to really dislike the Hawks. They are good, to be sure but I just donlt like the way they acrry themselves. From coach Q to the last player on the roster, they are pricks!!
Now, let's hope the Blues can be hated like that some day...
I'll take the Kings over the Rangers in 5 or 6. I hope I'm wrong but I think they are a better team. Rangers have some emotion on their side with the St. Louis thing but that may have run it's course. If the Hawks were in it, I may not have watched a single minute of the Finals. At least now I can watch some of it...
I was going to puke if I heard that forkin doowop song in OT.
Ahhhh.....but the sweet dead silence when the Kings scored was beautiful.
Don't count the Rangers out. Under dogs for sure but Lundquist is playing the best so far of all the goalies.
ooooops....I said that word again.......griffins que..........bwaaaaaaaaa
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Besmirch this..
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After watching the LA/Chi series and the first game of the Cup Finals, I have come to the conclusion that the Blues simply don't have the right make-up to make to the Finals, much less win it (actually, I came to this conclusion after the Chicago choke-job series). This is a war of attrition and the teams with the right combination of size, speed, skill, toughness/grit, experience and smarts are going to make it.
This Blues team as a lot of skill but lacks seriously in other areas. They need to acquire a top line scorer with serious grit. Preferably one that can stay healthy, out of the penalty box, lead his team when leadership is needed and leave stray dogs to the dog catchers...
Oh, and if Tarasenko isn't the Captain next season, this team will suffer the same fate as it did in the last several playoffs. The guy is a leader and it will free up more time for the old Captain to round up stray animals.
| last_stand |
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| 06/06/14 04:14 PM |
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After watching the LA/Chi series and the first game of the Cup Finals, I have come to the conclusion that the Blues simply don't have the right make-up to make to the Finals, much less win it (actually, I came to this conclusion after the Chicago choke-job series). This is a war of attrition and the teams with the right combination of size, speed, skill, toughness/grit, experience and smarts are going to make it.
This Blues team as a lot of skill but lacks seriously in other areas. They need to acquire a top line scorer with serious grit. Preferably one that can stay healthy, out of the penalty box, lead his team when leadership is needed and leave stray dogs to the dog catchers...
Oh, and if Tarasenko isn't the Captain next season, this team will suffer the same fate as it did in the last several playoffs. The guy is a leader and it will free up more time for the old Captain to round up stray animals.
Since you are obviously obsessed with this insane notion, you should just start up a write in campaign to replace Backes as captain.
Start with the soft underbelly....get your wife and kids to sign up. Then, with this momentum, go to friends and extended family. Then on to the various hockey boards where.....oh hell I'll let you find out for yourself.....if even then it can actually sink in.
bwaaaaaaaaaaa