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Problem 1 is who can they get? They would have to pay a fortune in bodies and cash to land a top guy, IF one of their teams would even deal. Votto? Freeman? Hard to imagine. If they do make a move, it might be one of those resurrection deals or some shrewd gamble on a guy like the Padres youngster, Solarte.

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Ok , so bring on the hate...I predict at season's end the Cards will be in second place tied with the Cubs 2.5 games behind Pittsburg. You read it here!

Meanwhile in the ATL....never mind.

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Ok , so bring on the hate...I predict at season's end the Cards will be in second place tied with the Cubs 2.5 games behind Pittsburg. You read it here!

Meanwhile in the ATL....never mind.

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No sane person in Cardinal's Nation would argue that it couldn't happen. To think the pitching is going to repeat in the 2nd half is not realistic. And if they fall off too much, the offense does not seem to be the type that is going to carry the pitching staff... That being said the likelihood is that the pitching will be good enough and the hitting will pick up just enough to win the Division...

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I bet ya'all are thrilled with this move! And gave up a pitcher who was a first round pick for him too..
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-le...-133805272.html

Does Fragile Matt average two trips to the DL every year or more?

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Him and Jaime can share time together on the pine as they both seem to be there quite a bit.. He is productive when he's in there but nor being able to count on him??

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Garcia lives on the DL. Holliday missed a month in 2011. He will miss 2 months in 2015. Carpenter had issues and spent a lot of time on the DL before he retired. Ask any Cards fan if it was worth having him on the team. Alex Gordon has missed waaaay more days than Holliday has since 2009. Yall should probably get rid of his unhealthy, pine riding, always on the DL ass too. He is more fragile than Holliday. Just sayin

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Meanwhile, Royals added the biggest d!ckicker in baseball with Cueto. He's a real tiger when the brawlin starts.

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"..biggest bunch of a-hole, bean-ballers in the league.." Uh you might want to check a few facts there Skippy as the Royals lead the AL in being HIT by pitch and are second overall to the Pirates in all of MLB. Glad you can make your decisions based on snippets from Sports Center..

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Dude, statistically two near misses to the head is "0". One plunk in the rear or back or leg is "1". The stats rarely tell the whole story. It isn't just some weird coincidence that the Royals keep ending up in bench clearing brawls and bean-ball incidents. I base my opinions after watching the games and listening to all sides of the arguments. The Royals have clearly become quite fond of themselves and their cowardly pitchers love to puff up their chest and demand respect, since they don't have to stand in the batters box.

Yost was at least somewhat respected until his idiotic statements yesterday. Let's summarize: My guys have never done anything wrong, didn't do anything wrong today and never will do anything wrong. They just pitch inside a lot and these things happen. When we throw at the opponents heads multiple times in a game, it is nothing to be concerned about. However, when our guys get hit, it is clearly intentional. Got it?

I hope the KC Royal A-holes (that should be their new name) get used to being disrespected and get very good at fighting. I can't see how their newfound attitude is going to get them in anything other than many more fights and everyone in the league hating them.

Sorry, that's the best I can do for a Monday morning. Was hoping to rile up the west siders but don't have my A game this morning...

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Yep hitting somebody with a changeup really means you're going after them..
So I guess if the Cards were playing a team of power hitters their pitchers don't throw inside?? Dude did you ever even play? If you got somebody who's diving in on you you pitch inside. A pitcher can't win only throwing to half the plate. Hell I learned that in CYC league..

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"..biggest bunch of a-hole, bean-ballers in the league.." Uh you might want to check a few facts there Skippy as the Royals lead the AL in being HIT by pitch and are second overall to the Pirates in all of MLB. Glad you can make your decisions based on snippets from Sports Center..

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When you are an asshole who no one likes, who like to beam other teams........they tend to bean you back. The royals lead the other AL teams, becauE they are busy plunking everyone they play. After 30 years of being in the AL cellar....the Royals are demanding respect. They forgot that chit get earned.......and being a one year wonder doesn't get them There.

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So if the Royals are so big and bad aholes throwing at everyone, why is it they've only hit 29 batters (5 more than the Cards have) which is way below the league average, yet been hit 57 times?

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So if the Royals are so big and bad aholes throwing at everyone, why is it they've only hit 29 batters (5 more than the Cards have) which is way below the league average, yet been hit 57 times?

your numbers don't add up...seems to me they are effectively throwing inside...

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griffin said:
George Brett was all the reason I ever needed to hate the Royals.

Piss on them.

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wuchang said:
Not all haters are from the East Side

This video/article just may sum it up

http://thebiglead.com/2015/08/03/blue-ja...ordano-ventura/

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The Royals are misunderstood people and demand respect.

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George Brett was all the reason I ever needed to hate the Royals.

Piss on them.

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I read an article in the KC Star over the weekend where they mentioned you and the team figured after 20 years of retirement your hatred might be wavering....hence the reason for the Cueto trade - just in case you needed to renew your hatred.

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George Brett was all the reason I ever needed to hate the Royals.

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I read an article in the KC Star over the weekend where they mentioned you and the team figured after 20 years of retirement your hatred might be wavering....hence the reason for the Cueto trade - just in case you needed to renew your hatred.

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George Brett was all the reason I ever needed to hate the Royals.

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I read an article in the KC Star over the weekend where they mentioned you and the team figured after 20 years of retirement your hatred might be wavering....hence the reason for the Cueto trade - just in case you needed to renew your hatred.

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Understood........you get your minor league fix during hockey season!!

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Since the deadline, Brandon Moss has won more games than Johny Cueto.

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Since the deadline, Brandon Moss has won more games than Johny Cueto.

I find that interesting and entertaining all in one.

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Been gone for a few days and I see this took on a life of its own. Now that the dust has settled can we all agree the Royals are a collection of A-holes that most baseball fans are learning to hate?

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Been gone for a few days .....

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last_stand said:Oh. We rank #1 in MLB Pitching with a era of 2.58. And Yadi is a huge part of that. Next team closest is 3.20.

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You know the Giants are in serious trouble when they have Joe Buck's boyfriend Bumgardner pitch hitting 2 days in a row. Seriously....you don't send out your ace pitcher when you are down by a run to get a win. Dude could pull a hammy, get hit by a ball......If I was an opposing team, I would have beam balled that bastard right away. Might pay dividends down the stretch or during a playoff run.

Yadi is being Yadi. Going to miss him when he retires. He is a huge reason behind the best ERA in baseball. Good to See Heyward pitch hit last night. Maybe he will be back in the lineup tonight. Piscotty is a beast, and without him, the Cards aren't 5 up on Shittsburg. Grichuk needs to get back soon. Depending on the rest of the injured players, the Cards might have a healthy ball club come October is Holliday, Jay, and Possibly Adams coming back. Ship Kozma out for the playoff roster and keep Piscotty around.

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This is a west coast trip. For whatever reason, the Cards have had too many west coast trips that were sub .500 even when their opponents are not that great. Let's hope they shake off that tendency and get at least 6 wins out of the trip.

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3 1/2 game lead

Wonder when the panic will set in to the fair weather fans,chicken littles and manic depressives

Prediction that the Post Dispatch will have a headline like this??

Cardinals lead shrinks to 3 1/2 games....Is this going to be like 2006?


LS--
Andy is kicking yer butt with these prognostications--

better put that swami hat on

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This is a west coast trip. For whatever reason, the Cards have had too many west coast trips that were sub .500 even when their opponents are not that great. Let's hope they shake off that tendency and get at least 6 wins out of the trip.

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pretty much nailed this series with the Padres

3 1/2 game lead

Wonder when the panic will set in to the fair weather fans,chicken littles and manic depressives

Prediction that the Post Dispatch will have a headline like this??

Cardinals lead shrinks to 3 1/2 games....Is this going to be like 2006?


LS--
Andy is kicking yer butt with these prognostications--

better put that swami hat on

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If the Cardinals can take two from AZ. then they can salvage the first part if the West Coast trip and Andy looks like a bonehead.

I predict they will.

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If the Cardinals can take two from AZ. then they can salvage the first part if the West Coast trip and Andy looks like a bonehead.

I predict they will.

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Uh, if they take 2 that means AZ took 2. Since we lost 2 of 3 in SD, that would make us 3-4 for the 7 games. Go back to talking about bicycle riding. You are clearly not smart enough to discuss the complexities of what is above .500 and what is below .500, for a 7 game run...

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last_stand said:
Personally, I think your foresight on Brian Elliotts performance last year was some of your best work.

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Personally, I think your foresight on Brian Elliotts performance last year was some of your best work.

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As with Alydar, my horse wasn't allowed to run.....I can't control what stupid people do.

Now, wipe the drool off your shirt, sit up straight, and pretend you've got some sense. Andy is watching, and quite frankly, you're embarrassing yourself.

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Personally, I think your foresight on Brian Elliotts performance last year was some of your best work.

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As with Alydar, my horse wasn't allowed to run.....I can't control what stupid people do.

Now, wipe the drool off your shirt, sit up straight, and pretend you've got some sense. Andy is watching, and quite frankly, you're embarrassing yourself.

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If the Cardinals can take two from AZ. then they can salvage the first part if the West Coast trip and Andy looks like a bonehead.

I predict they will.

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Uh, if they take 2 that means AZ took 2. Since we lost 2 of 3 in SD, that would make us 3-4 for the 7 games. Go back to talking about bicycle riding. You are clearly not smart enough to discuss the complexities of what is above .500 and what is below .500, for a 7 game run...

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Personally, I think your foresight on Brian Elliotts performance last year was some of your best work.

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Now, wipe the drool off your shirt, sit up straight, and pretend you've got some sense. Andy is watching, and quite frankly, you're embarrassing yourself.

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Personally, I think your foresight on Brian Elliotts performance last year was some of your best work.

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As with Alydar, my horse wasn't allowed to run.....I can't control what stupid people do.

Now, wipe the drool off your shirt, sit up straight, and pretend you've got some sense. Andy is watching, and quite frankly, you're embarrassing yourself.

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Actually, your horse got whipped, like so many here told you was going to happen.

"we'll be fine" bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

And Andy isn't watching chit. Other than Judge Judy every afternoon.

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last_stand said:
I can only assume I'd be wasting my breath with this since you already know what's going to happen.

But I really would hate to be gone and miss out on more of your hockey insight.

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The Cardinal Franchise has 10,552 overall wins. No team has 11,000 wins yet. Dabs...I used your topwater, new to baseball, bandwagon jumping way of counting......and I think the Cardinals are the first franchise to 11,000 wins. We might need to petition baseball to change the way they have figured wins for the last 150 years.

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I just want the redbirds against those morons from KC in the series......nothing else matters.

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But with their pitching, I can't see them failing.....again!

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But with their pitching, I can't see them failing.....again!

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It's all good. I think Matheney will work the odds on matchups and like Wu said maybe some home-away percentages.

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It could happen that way
AL has the hammer on having home field

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Royals are 2W 1L

Royals At Busch

Royals are 0W and 3L

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It could happen that way
AL has the hammer on having home field

2015 record Royals vs Cardinals

Royals At Home
Royals are 2W 1L

Royals At Busch

Royals are 0W and 3L

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Statistics , shamystics.......I'm going on observation , instinct and experience.....
I give the nod to St. Louis in pitching
KC gets the nod in offense and defense .

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It could happen that way
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Statistics , shamystics.......I'm going on observation , instinct and experience.....
I give the nod to St. Louis in pitching
KC gets the nod in offense and defense .

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On another note I predict the Braves will not make the playoffs. Take that to the bank as well.

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If the Cardinals can take two from AZ. then they can salvage the first part if the West Coast trip and Andy looks like a bonehead.

I predict they will.

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