Liberty
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"I don't give a rats ass."--Griffin
why would you, you live in Missouri
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griffin
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That ain't it.....just like "Charlie don't surf".......GRIFFIN DON'T HIKE!!!! 
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Ozark
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how do you think hunters get into some of these sections of the forest
They're pretty dumb hunters if they walk into a place that's not both near a road and uphill from it.
I've dragged enough deer through the woods to know better.
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Liberty
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well it's burning the motorized areas too, not that you give a damn about anything
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Liberty
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"They're pretty dumb hunters if they walk into a place that's not both near a road and uphill from it.
I've dragged enough deer through the woods to know better."--Ozark
a lot of them don't take more than the antlers, a lot of them just go for the trophy
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Ozark
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a lot of them don't take more than the antlers, a lot of them just go for the trophy
Well, there's some folks who need three hots and a cot at the Greybar Hotel.
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Liberty
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I don't disagree, some use pack horses though and a lot of traveling hunters end up donating the meat to charity, they fly in, shoot something and decide they don't want to take home the meat
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JJ McGuire
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I think the forests should be thinned out by logging and then whatever is left should be lit on fire then be put out by fire fighters. 
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Hellbender
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If you read close you'll see that mountain man Lib FLEW over the forest. The east side of Oregon has more mountain areas than where he lives, he just hasn't flown over enough of it to see it. There are plenty of roads, access isn't all that hard except for a few wideness areas.
Libs been out there a couple of years and he now would have you believe he's been all over it.
Like most other things, he don't know chit about the timber industry in the Northwest.
He drives a Honda for chris sake!
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Liberty
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HB you're nothing more than an idiot, who doesn't know jack chit about anything out here and you prove it everytime you post. You want everyone to focus on me, rather than what is being said because you ain't got an argument to post up, you are simply relying on everyone's dislike of me, which I have cultivated over the years on purpose.
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Liberty
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"wideness areas"--HB
is that a forest for fat people HB? 
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Liberty
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"If you read close you'll see that mountain man Lib FLEW over the forest."--HB
and how do you cover more than a thousand miles in a day, wait you're not from the future or from space are you
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Liberty
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"Libs been out there a couple of years and he now would have you believe he's been all over it."--HB
well more than you, and I'm not even using a transporter machine
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Hellbender
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I'm not even using a transporter machine
No, an airplane and a Honda to gain some experience to go along with your plagiarized article, written by someone who believes Elk are chasing beavers out of Yellowstone. 
keep diggin" Lib, you ain't hit bottom yet.
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Liberty
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plagiarism is when you pass something off that is not yours as if it were yours, the articles were cited, dumbass, I posted an article that has some minor statement about beaver herding elk and you've yet to argue the main point of thinning the forests and why private ownership is better than public ownership.
why don't you keep digging, because maybe at some point you will start going up
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Liberty
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so far you've said I'm going to grow the government, though my argument is to get the government out of the way, sell off the land to private organizations and people or even the states. I want logging companies to thin the forests, somehow you believe that grows government.
I argue against the government mismanagement of its lands and you argue for the government to keep it.
At what point do you look in the mirror and realize Bill Clinton is staring back at you?
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griffin
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Dove season starts Saturday.
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Burrhead
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And we'll be hiking... with guns.
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JJ McGuire
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And we'll be hiking... with guns.
Only to the nearest powerlines
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duko™
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Hellbender said:
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I'm not even using a transporter machine
No, an airplane and a Honda to gain some experience to go along with your plagiarized article, written by someone who believes Elk are chasing beavers out of Yellowstone.
keep diggin" Lib, you ain't hit bottom yet.
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duko™
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JJ McGuire said:
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Burrhead said:
And we'll be hiking... with guns.
Only to the nearest powerlines
that is if the ground hogs don't heard us up and chase us out
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bob
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either the fires finally burned out or dude remembered where he left his meds.
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Liberty
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what do you know of fires being from illinois newbie? Damn, you jackasses do nothing but elect jackasses.
by the way, HB, did you ever figure out how the elk ran off the beavers?
you may want to look into woody debris or the lack thereof due to the two largest herds of elk being on the north and south areas of Yellowstone and the many, many years that the herds have been fed by locals and they didn't experience natural death rates in winter, plus until the mid 90s they didn't have wolves eating them, thereby they changed the landscape, eating a lot of the food that would have otherwise been available for the deer. I didn't write the point, but apparently there's a lot of information out there about the subject that the elk herds did drive out a lot of other wildlife. 
but I am not arguing this point with you, I find it to be off point. You only wish to redirect to this point because you know your defense of the status quo in forest management is a losing argument
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Liberty
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let me explain how out of whack the mismanagement of our forests are to the newbie jackass from illinois
when the firefighters come out here and cut down a line of trees as a fire break, they will inform their hq of the location of the wood, then a forester will come out and estimate the amount of board feet the wood constitutes, then right about the time they've got someone to come in and get the felled wood, the liberals out here sue them and keep the matter in court long enough for the wood to no longer have a marketable value. Now in many instances they are tipped off by someone in the Forest Service that something so horrible as the extraction of already felled wood is going to happen.
Then there's the large amount of forest killed by beetle infestation that you aren't allowed to clear out due to lawsuits.
but you idiots think that this is just fine. Since you are against thinning, I guess you lock arms with the super freak liberals on the fallen stuff too.
GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS
And by the way, no the fires haven't gone anywhere, cept a little further on all their fronts.
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Hellbender
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by the way, HB, did you ever figure out how the elk ran off the beavers?
 You posted it.
Oh and I know this was probably a simple mistake for an expert like yourself, but IF they cut wood worth salvaging, they don't send a Forester , I don't don't even know if that club still exist, but either a Cruiser or a Scaler.
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