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Hop said:
Everyone knows we are payed Lots More Than We Are Worth!

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except for those times when peeps need yer skill and training to save their own worthless hide, or that of their famblly or friends.

THEN watch em praise ya.

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brettcope said:
can you guys get sued like the doctors, or treat people with no insurance, no job, etc and not get paid a dime for your services

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people that have insurance usually don't take an ambulance to the ER for a sore throat, hunger pains, broken finger, earache, pinkeye, toe pain, ingrown toenails, feeling cold, drunk and can't get to my gandy house, smoked too much weed and can't go to my mommas house, needed to get from Harrahs back downtown and did not have cab money and while I'm here I've had htn for 6mths but could not afford my $10/mth prescription. Plus I need a social worker and call the supervisor because I want to complain and I want a hot meal.

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dabs said:
Why no brettcope.....it is all a bed of roses in pre-hospital emergency services There are never anyone wanting to sue you......everyone that comes through the system has insurance....they all are exectuives at fortune 500 companies and pay cash in advance for their care prior to tansport.

But - all the extra pay received by field personnel makes up for it

Any other questions - just ask.

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Just Dont ask me how much the ambulance ride cost my insurance company for the ride down MT. Lemmon in AZ . Then exchanged to another ambulance to the ride to hospital -- --where my Dr sister was doing her internship at the time -- I knew I shouldn't have tried skiing the Black Diamond Coarse with that Icy Snow --but it was the last run of the day-- ---now there was that time I got run over by my own boat on Lake Okeegobee in FL----but that's another story--

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dabs said:
Why no brettcope.....it is all a bed of roses in pre-hospital emergency services There are never anyone wanting to sue you......everyone that comes through the system has insurance....they all are exectuives at fortune 500 companies and pay cash in advance for their care prior to tansport.

But - all the extra pay received by field personnel makes up for it

Any other questions - just ask.

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OH HELL dabs........you should warn a man about posts like that.......I may have to replace a keyboard after spewing coffee laughing at that one.

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brettcope said:
can you guys get sued like the doctors, or treat people with no insurance, no job, etc and not get paid a dime for your services

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people that have insurance usually don't take an ambulance to the ER for a sore throat, hunger pains, broken finger, earache, pinkeye, toe pain, ingrown toenails, feeling cold, drunk and can't get to my gandy house, smoked too much weed and can't go to my mommas house, needed to get from Harrahs back downtown and did not have cab money and while I'm here I've had htn for 6mths but could not afford my $10/mth prescription. Plus I need a social worker and call the supervisor because I want to complain and I want a hot meal.

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Now Toemoss - Usually I am in agreement wiff you on most things...but not on this one.

Pre-hospital folks (cept the ones who are hospital based and usually end up spending their free time working in the facility or folks that PRN in-hospital) don't understand what life in the ER is really about....I was based out of a hospital for a few years and know where you come from....but, the same is true on the counterpoint.

What in-hospital folks see from pre-hospital is the folks they bring in. They don't see the 25% national average of "no-go'rs". This is the bunch that you see, many times after the fact, coming in via taxi, walk-in, public transit or the boys in blue that were many times system abusers.

Granted, there aint many jobs that pay a person to sleep - but when woke up at 3:15 in the morning because {insert name here} is - a. hasn't slept in 15 days because of a meth high and {insert name here}'s friend decides they should be looked at - b. {insert name here} is bed ridden and dropped his television remote off the side of the bed and really just needs someone to come over and pick it up so they can watch Oprah instead of Dr. Phil - c. 96 year old {insert name here} got up to poop at 2:15 in the morning and when they got back in bed were short of breath here is a forkin clue....96 year old people who get out of bed in the middle of night to poop should be out of breath when they get back to bed

One of the greatest signs we used to determine when a patient really didn't need an ambulance was the "positive samsonite" sign. When a crew got on a scene and the suitcase was packed sittin by the front door - you knew they really didn't need an ambulance....it was another public safety taxi call.

As long as time goes on there will be a debate of who is who in health care....it is good that people have pride in what they do.....but the good part of it is (with the exception of the cops ) when it comes time to roll up the sleeves and go to work - everyone knows their role in the gig and the patients benefit from it.....the people who everyone is there for to begin with....I know that the people probably don't forget that - but it is amazing to me how some tend to have lost that focus over the years.

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Scout 1 said:
I don't know how you folks handle all that petty chit, in addition to the blood, the puke, the who knows what diseases... but THANKS.

Also it reaally pizzes me off when I hear folks talking about "going to the ER" when they have a hangnail, or little Jonny has a bad cough, or they have a 101 degree fever... totally minor chit that any half-bright mammal SHOULD be able to handle out of their own household medicine cabinet.

How you keep from braining these dipdunks is beyond me.

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We wuz po and lived in the darkest of neighborhoods in STL the first 16 years of my life. You wouldn't believe how many times them nigs would get hauled off in an ambulance just to be home later that night or the next day. Also, the little nigglets would come to school with their hospital bracelets on. When you asked them what happened, they'd say, "I was sick so momma took me to the hospital."
"When" you say and they say, "last night."



If I were in the medical field, I'd be proned to "accidents."

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Now comes that part of beinga Trauma Nurse.

Imagine this..........

Imagine that you have multiple patients believing that you are a Slave rather than a Professional and believe you should be kissing thier Azzes the entire time they are there.

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When Brad and I were there the waiting room had maybe six other patients with various sickness and injury, and everyone was being pretty good about it including the little sick kids. Then out of nowhere this twenty-something dude that was holding his wrist just like Brad was says kinda loud "I guess if my head was hanging off I could get some attention around here!"

After doing our sign in paperwork stuff (he arrived while we were doing ours), it took maybe ten minutes for the radiology chick (who was smokin' hot BTW) to come get Brad for his x-rays, and she was just as quick with the mouthy dude. It was a longer wait for the doctor, but it always is. Everyone knows that before they even go.
The hospital called today for a follow up on their service, and I told them the whole thing went very smoothly and that radiology was exceptionally quick. The guy sounded pleased, like maybe he doesn't hear that enough. He must get a bunch of ungrateful people.

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