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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: MB2]
      #235837 - 02/04/13 07:15 AM

Welp, that was a marathon of a game. I was pleased with the outcome or at pleased as I could be with two teams I wanted to lose. I guess the highlight was watching Jim I-biatch-about-everything Harbaugh whine and cry like a 4th grade sschool girl about not getting a call on his last play. Not only great to see him lose to his much classier older brother but good to see him act like the sore loser he is...

Flacco is what Bradford can be in the next few years. He's not great but he's very good and can win you a Super Bowl. Give Bradford that O-line and a few receivers and he'll be every bit as good as Flacco.

Was the power outage "natural" or foul play? Conspiracy people are not going to buy the tripped breaker exlanation. I'm thinking there was enough money involved that anything is possible. Don't be shocked if foul play is uncovered...

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: Paul Dallas]
      #235838 - 02/04/13 07:31 AM

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Paul Dallas said:Beyonce sucked. Nice body but it felt more like a lingerie show than a performance. Anyone else think her legs are a bit chunky though? I thought Alicia Keyes was great singing the National Anthem, except for the add-on bit at the end.




Didn't watch the halftime show, because I couldn't give two chits about Beyonce. I did see the Anthem by Alicia Keys and was not impressed. Since when is adding to the end of the National Anthem acceptable? Even without that, her version was a bit slow and less than inspiring. What ever happend to having the military bands and/or a military chorus (or individual)? They always do it right...

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: sptsman]
      #235839 - 02/04/13 07:40 AM

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I guess the highlight was watching Jim I-biatch-about-everything Harbaugh whine and cry like a 4th grade sschool girl about not getting a call on his last play. Not only great to see him lose to his much classier older brother but good to see him act like the sore loser he is...





Yeah, that was funny. He looked like he was going to cry.

You must've missed it, but the older brother had his own little melt down too. Some big suit was down there explaining to him the power outage and he threw quite a tantrum . . . every bit as bad as his little brothers. After seeing that, if the Ravens had lost, you can bet he would've been crying and complaining that the power outage cost him the game. They both looked like babies.


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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: sptsman]
      #235840 - 02/04/13 07:45 AM

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Flacco is what Bradford can be in the next few years. He's not great but he's very good and can win you a Super Bowl. Give Bradford that O-line and a few receivers and he'll be every bit as good as Flacco.





Uh . . . .no. Granted, Boldin and Smith are stud receivers, but Bradford just lacks intensity and coolness in the clutch.


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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: Paul Dallas]
      #235841 - 02/04/13 08:23 AM

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Flacco is what Bradford can be in the next few years. He's not great but he's very good and can win you a Super Bowl. Give Bradford that O-line and a few receivers and he'll be every bit as good as Flacco.





Uh . . . .no. Granted, Boldin and Smith are stud receivers, but Bradford just lacks intensity and coolness in the clutch.




Complete BS... He lacks an O-line, receivers and continuity with and offense (3 O-coordinators in 3 years). Questioning his intensity and coolness is just garbage. How cool can you be on your back, because your O-line can't protect you and your receivers are incapable of getting open? Considering his lack of weapons, a new offense every year and all of the other factors, it's a miracle he's ranked in the middle of the pack statistically. I'd say he's likely better than Flacco. But we may never know, if the Rams continue to Bulger-ize him...

I saw John Harbaugh working the suits during the blackout. That was a lot different thant the whining about the no-call, at the end of the game. But you may be right. Had the Ravens gone on to lose that game, he may have cried tears just as big. The difference is that I don't dislike him as much...

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: sptsman]
      #235842 - 02/04/13 08:33 AM

Why did San Francisco decide to throw the ball three times from the five yard line? Kaepernick was rushing for over eight yards a carry. Why stop doing that when it mattered the most?


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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: MB2]
      #235844 - 02/04/13 08:58 AM

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Why did San Francisco decide to throw the ball three times from the five yard line? Kaepernick was rushing for over eight yards a carry. Why stop doing that when it mattered the most?


hmmmmm??




Dave Yost stole the headset the last 4 plays

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: MB2]
      #235847 - 02/04/13 10:10 AM

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Why did San Francisco decide to throw the ball three times from the five yard line? Kaepernick was rushing for over eight yards a carry. Why stop doing that when it mattered the most?


hmmmmm??




Because the Ravens jammed up the line and basically took away the run. They gave the 49er's the opportunity to beat them with the pass. They banked on a young, inexperienced QB not being able to make split second decisions and excute, in a huge situation like that and they bet correctly. go back and look at how the Ravens played those plays. Runs would have been stuffed...

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: sptsman]
      #235849 - 02/04/13 11:21 AM

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Why did San Francisco decide to throw the ball three times from the five yard line? Kaepernick was rushing for over eight yards a carry. Why stop doing that when it mattered the most?


hmmmmm??




Because the Ravens jammed up the line and basically took away the run. They gave the 49er's the opportunity to beat them with the pass. They banked on a young, inexperienced QB not being able to make split second decisions and excute, in a huge situation like that and they bet correctly. go back and look at how the Ravens played those plays. Runs would have been stuffed...





You can't have it both ways Sptsman and neither can the Ravens.

The Ravens WANTED the whiners to pass because they preferred it to the niners/kaepernick running game.

Jim Harbough forked that up imo. He gave his brother exactly what his brother wanted.... twice.

Funny how there were no antics two weeks ago when Jimmy's team were the benefit of a no-call penalty. I understand he didn't show up for the post press conference. What a cry baby. You'd think he'd at least show up to congratulate his brother in public. Fits his MO, been known to not shake hands after games as well. The guys a pr1ck.

As for Beyonce, not my kind of music but well done. And me, I wasn't in the mood for some skinny azzed model type. Pound for pound it was fine by me. bwaaaaaaaaaa

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: last_stand]
      #235851 - 02/04/13 11:46 AM

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Why did San Francisco decide to throw the ball three times from the five yard line? Kaepernick was rushing for over eight yards a carry. Why stop doing that when it mattered the most?


hmmmmm??




Because the Ravens jammed up the line and basically took away the run. They gave the 49er's the opportunity to beat them with the pass. They banked on a young, inexperienced QB not being able to make split second decisions and excute, in a huge situation like that and they bet correctly. go back and look at how the Ravens played those plays. Runs would have been stuffed...





You can't have it both ways Sptsman and neither can the Ravens.

The Ravens WANTED the whiners to pass because they preferred it to the niners/kaepernick running game.

Jim Harbough forked that up imo. He gave his brother exactly what his brother wanted.... twice.




Uh .... Isn't that what I said?

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: sptsman]
      #235852 - 02/04/13 12:06 PM

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Because the Ravens jammed up the line and basically took away the run.

go back and look at how the Ravens played those plays. Runs would have been stuffed...





They didn't stuff chit. They didn't take away the run either. Gore had 100+ yards and Kaepernick had 62 most all in the second half.

They needed 4 yards in 2 plays. Run the ball.







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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: sptsman]
      #235862 - 02/04/13 05:09 PM

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Why did San Francisco decide to throw the ball three times from the five yard line? Kaepernick was rushing for over eight yards a carry. Why stop doing that when it mattered the most?


hmmmmm??




Because the Ravens jammed up the line and basically took away the run. They gave the 49er's the opportunity to beat them with the pass. They banked on a young, inexperienced QB not being able to make split second decisions and excute, in a huge situation like that and they bet correctly. go back and look at how the Ravens played those plays. Runs would have been stuffed...




I guess a different Super Bowl was played on your TV Set. Kaepernick averaged 8.9 yards a carry......Frank Gore averaged 5.8. Delany Walker should have been out there lead blocking. The Raven D-line was beat down, and they should have pounded the ball in. It looked like David Yost was running the damn plays. Snapping 4 yards deep from the 5 yard line with a couple of players capable of getting into the end zone by running. Instead of running it with 2 timeouts left, they passed the ball with a short field to work with....something that plays into the Defense's hands. Haloti Ngata wasn't in the game. San Fran beat themselves once they got to the 5 yard line.

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: H2ODOG]
      #235864 - 02/04/13 05:32 PM

San Francisco beat themselves by getting down 28-6 ithink it was, giving up a 108 kickoff return...then panicking, wasting a time out...

Worse than the no call on that 4th down play, was the numerous offensive holding no calls on the safty...that was just blatent...

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: H2ODOG]
      #235871 - 02/04/13 07:30 PM

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sptsman said:
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MissBudweiser said:
Why did San Francisco decide to throw the ball three times from the five yard line? Kaepernick was rushing for over eight yards a carry. Why stop doing that when it mattered the most?


hmmmmm??




Because the Ravens jammed up the line and basically took away the run. They gave the 49er's the opportunity to beat them with the pass. They banked on a young, inexperienced QB not being able to make split second decisions and excute, in a huge situation like that and they bet correctly. go back and look at how the Ravens played those plays. Runs would have been stuffed...




I guess a different Super Bowl was played on your TV Set. Kaepernick averaged 8.9 yards a carry......Frank Gore averaged 5.8. Delany Walker should have been out there lead blocking. The Raven D-line was beat down, and they should have pounded the ball in. It looked like David Yost was running the damn plays. Snapping 4 yards deep from the 5 yard line with a couple of players capable of getting into the end zone by running. Instead of running it with 2 timeouts left, they passed the ball with a short field to work with....something that plays into the Defense's hands. Haloti Ngata wasn't in the game. San Fran beat themselves once they got to the 5 yard line.




I was referring to Miss Bud's comments about the last 4 plays, not the whole game. Read my post and it refers to that "huge situation" and "those plays." The Ravens played those plays differently than the rest of the game. The rest of the game was a balance of trying to stop the pass, while keeping Gore and Kaepernick in check. Since it wasn't overly succesful, it was apparent that they decided they were not going to get beat on those last four plays by either of their legs. They loaded up the box, filled every gap and made Kaepernick beat them with his decision making and arm. Had they tried to run on those plays, they would not have made it back to the line of scrimmage. It was a gamble on the Ravens part and it paid off.

Where SF screwed up was not using their best end zone weapon for the corner pass, Randy Moss. They also didn't show much creativity in their plays at the end.

I give all the credit to the Raven for that stand at the end. The defensive coaches made some gutsy calls and the players executed. Sure SF didn't pull it off but it wasn;t like they were playing a JV team...

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: sptsman]
      #235876 - 02/05/13 07:34 AM

Randy Moss . . . their best end zone weapon? Apparently, you've been listening to Randy Moss.

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: Paul Dallas]
      #235877 - 02/05/13 08:48 AM

Did Randy Moss play Sunday?

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: griffin]
      #235879 - 02/05/13 09:47 AM

yes. I think he caught 1 or 2 passes

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: Paul Dallas]
      #235881 - 02/05/13 11:09 AM

There was a couple windows to run when Caepernick rolled out. He could have gotten close if not into the endzone. Loading up one side and faking one direction while running the other. They quit running when it got them to where they were in the game and went straight to the pass. The Ravens loaded the box....which leaves the outside run game open. I know this isn't soccer Andy, so some of the basics might confuse you.

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: Paul Dallas]
      #235882 - 02/05/13 11:16 AM

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yes. I think he caught 1 or 2 passes




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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: griffin]
      #235883 - 02/05/13 11:20 AM

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yes. I think he caught 1 or 2 passes




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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: H2ODOG]
      #235885 - 02/05/13 11:58 AM

They tried to get Moss out there but he was busy on the bench.

I believe he was tweeting something to his BA.

So they had to send out their second best.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Maybe Harbaugh should have SPREAD his offense, looked at the D, and then decide.

As it was, Kaepernick saw the stack and called the audible to fade, just what the Ravens wanted, the wrong play.

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: last_stand]
      #235888 - 02/05/13 07:39 PM

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As it was, Kaepernick saw the stack and called the audible to fade, just what the Ravens wanted, the wrong play.




Exactly! Thank you for confirming my point...

As as far as Moss... Yes he is an a-hole. Yes, he is way past his prime. But if you need one guy to jump for the sky and pull down a pass in the corner, he's probbaly the best weapon they have.

Jeff, that last D was set up to stop Gore and KAepernick, no matter where they ran. Taking the ball to the outside would have just made a 1 or 2 yard loss, into a 3 or 4 yard loss. If Kaepernick and the SF receivers were a little better they would have been hoisting the Lombardi Trophy.

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: sptsman]
      #235889 - 02/05/13 08:37 PM

Sptsman, the last play was a casino blitz. Everyone stacked and up the middle right at Kaepernick. IMO, an outside run play would have been highly effective.

Kaepernick called the fade at the line and sure if it worked he's a hero but the odds were not there, the odds were much greater for Frisco to get their 5 yards on 2 running plays. Atlanta did the same dam stupid thing on their last possession two weeks ago.

He barely got the pass off. He threw it out of bounds. He was not the guy to make the play call for the SB title.

This series is not going down in Harbaugh's high lite album.

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: last_stand]
      #235891 - 02/05/13 09:12 PM

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Sptsman, the last play was a casino blitz. Everyone stacked and up the middle right at Kaepernick. IMO, an outside run play would have been highly effective.






Winner winner Super Bowl chicken dinner. They kept loading the box. A run to the outside with a lead blocker gets ya in for the score. On 2nd down Kaepernick had a hole to get 3 yards minimum. Once on the 5 yard like the Niners went full blow forktard... and broke out the Mizzou playbook. Yost was probably sittin at home saying he would have ran the same crap.

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Re: Super Bowl Whatever [Re: H2ODOG]
      #235894 - 02/05/13 11:15 PM

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Sptsman, the last play was a casino blitz. Everyone stacked and up the middle right at Kaepernick. IMO, an outside run play would have been highly effective.






Winner winner Super Bowl chicken dinner. They kept loading the box. A run to the outside with a lead blocker gets ya in for the score. On 2nd down Kaepernick had a hole to get 3 yards minimum. Once on the 5 yard like the Niners went full blow fork... and broke out the Mizzou playbook. Yost was probably sittin at home saying he would have ran the same crap.






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