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Another season upon us. That means more hopes and dreams comin right up.
Good looking club, HOPEFULLY one of the best front 9 we've ever had, and some of that is still probably not set.
It's a good, fast D that will have it's hands full come playoff time.
And what's a Blues team without questions at net. Hope this is Ell's year all year and that the kid behind him is for real.
And I don't care about points or Division titles....just get in the playoffs and stay in the playoffs.
GO BLUE!
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You gotta be chitting me ! Not already! Damn... 
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Have they announced who the "C" will be? If Backes, start looking forward to the 2015 - 2016 season. Unless they can overcome that, it will be no more than one round and done in the playoffs. He's a great player but kills them with the "C" on his sweater. If he had an once of intelligence to go with all of that God-given talent, he would tell Hitch to give it to someone else... How much better would he be if he could just focus on playing and recusing stray animals in the backstreets and alleys of NHL cities... 
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Welp, Berglund is the same old thing. Plays hard when the spirit moves him and then goes flat more often than not. You would think the first period of the first game of the season, against one of the teams in the Cup finals would be motivation enough to play like your life depended on it. I guess not. He was the primary reason for Nash's first goal. I guess the concept of skating hard and giving it 100% any time you are on the ice, still eludes him. I hope Hitchcock benches him for Saturday's game...
I forgot how horrific the officiating was in the NHL. Last night was a great reminder. Hard to watch any HNL game any more.
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nhl refs may be the worst, but nfl refs, so far this season, are closing fast.
Lot's of good signs with last nights game. I liked the new additions, El's played pretty solid and the main thing wrong was Blues just not quite in sync....yet.
I think it will be a fun team to follow. I think in general we can jump up and down and scream and yell and cheer all we want for 80 games but in the end, we will all be waiting to see what actually happens in the post season, the season that will tell the true story of the here to fore luckless Blues.
I'll be doing all that, no matter.
And the new uni's?
They blew it. One of the best logos in all of sports and they can't get it right.
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You must be kidding...80 forking games ?? How bout just running your head on every 5th or 6th one. 
It's like a freaking bowling league.. there is no end! 
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It's like a freaking bowling league.. there is no end!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!
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It's like a freaking bowling league.. there is no end!
It's taken quite a while, but I think you are starting to get it.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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We almost bowled 300 last night Bubba.
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The kid put on a show last night!
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Looked pretty good the last two games, even being depleted. They almost have enough talent to overcome the dog whisperer as Captain and Berglund being on the roster...
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Some of these goals by Tarasenko are incredible....not talking about the ones with a great move attached either but just the straight on shots......this guy could get to 50 if they can't learn to catch up to his puck. Or better yet keep him from shooting.
How bout that camera shot of Hull up in the booth after the win? Was he drunk again or just the same knucklehead he's always been?
Brett, we WON.
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Brett, we WON.
That was priceless. I was with some buds and almost everyone of us said the same thing, "I wonder if he's drunk or really just doesn't give two chits..." I don't think anyone would have been too concerned if he didn't jump out of his seat but you had to wonder if he was even at the game mentally...
Tarasenko should be the "C" for this team. He is the best player and he is a natural leader. After hearing how he conducts himself and how he treats everyone from the janitor to the owner, I think it is clear to say he gets it. That would also free up more time for the Dog-whisperer to concentrate on his 37 pets and finding more in the back alleys of STL...
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Oh boy, oh boy......another riveting debate between twiddle dee and twiddle dumb about who should be wearing the " C" is upon us.....again,
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Oh boy, oh boy......another riveting debate between twiddle dee and twiddle dumb about who should be wearing the " C" is upon us.....again,
Wait for it...
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Brett, we WON.
That was priceless. I was with some buds and almost everyone of us said the same thing, "I wonder if he's drunk or really just doesn't give two chits..." I don't think anyone would have been too concerned if he didn't jump out of his seat but you had to wonder if he was even at the game mentally...
Tarasenko should be the "C" for this team. He is the best player and he is a natural leader. After hearing how he conducts himself and how he treats everyone from the janitor to the owner, I think it is clear to say he gets it. That would also free up more time for the Dog-whisperer to concentrate on his 37 pets and finding more in the back alleys of STL...
If you believe the nicest guy on the team should be Captain have at it. Some teams do that. Wouldn't surprise me if he didn't want it either.
Either way, I won't argue anything about Senko. I like everything about that kid.
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Just for you Bubba.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQVnIKUd-6k
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You know, what this team really needs is a decent goailie.
Of course, like I said last year, we've had him all along.
You guys are boneheads.
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No chit. These guys are too much. Specially Sprtsman.
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You know, what this team really needs is a decent goailie.
Of course, like I said last year, we've had him all along.
You guys are boneheads.
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Then why did he choke so bad the last two times he was asked to carry the water, in the playoffs?
I'm his biggest fan but I can't pretend I didn't see what I saw. He was given the reigns and simply didn't rise to the occasion. Let's hope he's grown enough to handle it this time around.
Watching the NJ game right now. They really needed to go into this 3rd period with a lead. Going to be tough to keep up with NJ's fresh legs. Short shifts and fundamentals!!
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Good win for the Note and Tarasenko the Sniper does it again. The Russky should have been the lead in Enemy at the gates!
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I got to see the goal before the duck hunting wake up call caught up with me and I fell asleep. I think there were 5 mins to go, when I faded... Had to check the interweb to make sure they won, before going to bed... 
Most impressive last night was the effect that rolling 4 lines has on a team. If they can't do that, this team would have faded hard in the 3rd period. As it was, they skated hard to the end (or at least until I fell asleep). Impressive win, coming off an OT game the night before.
Jake Allen looked darn good too...
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They just throttled the offensive life out of the Devils. The commentators just kept talking about it. I think they said the Blues only turned the puck over once. You're right in that everyone contributed. They are tough when they play smart.
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On paper they are the best team in hockey......period. Now we'll see if they can learn to play together every night.
This one is squarely on Hitchcock.
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Reminds me of the 90-91 season with a little less on the #1 line (Hull & Oates was something we may never see again) but much more on the 2 through 4 lines. I think this defense is a little more solid and skilled as well.
I hope Hitchcock can figure out how to run this team in the 2nd half of the season, so they are in top form for the playoffs. Not really interested in a Presidents Trophy. I want to see the Cup hoisted here...
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Anybody go to the game last night?
Can only imagine what a bunch of pissed off, drunk hockey fans that want to go outside to smoke a cigarette react when told they are on lock down because some folks are outside in the area acting a fool
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Marty Brodeur wearing the Note? Don't laugh he is working out with the Blues who are waiting to see how bad Elliott is hurt.
Do what do you think Griffin?
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I like Brodeur.......a solid pick up if Elliot can't go. I think you stay with Allen now, but Brodeur gives the team some confidence if Allen needs a break.
It beats the hell out of the dumbass move to get Miller last year.
Brodeur is not a head case, he's a gamer.
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One of the best goalies ever.
It's interesting to say the least. Reading into his comments, it sounds to me like he wants to stay on a roster for the year and not be a 30 day rental.
And I'm thinkin the blues are thinkin that Elliott may be a while to recover.
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I agree at one time he was one of the best of all time. But how many goalies have been able to maintain their reflexes and flexibility to be an top level NHL goalie at 42?? You have to go back to the 60's and Jacque Plante to have a 40 YO Vezina winner. 
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Apparently made it official today. Marty wears the Note!
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My guess?
Sweater sales are on the way up!
It will be cool as hell if he's still got it.
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Oh , yippeeeee  
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Oh , yippeeeee
What Bubba.......you got it up again?
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Oh , yippeeeee
What Bubba.......you got it up again?
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Well........no 
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Oh , yippeeeee
What Bubba.......you got it up again?
Whoa!
No chit my brother.....that's a flagrant foul.
I was gonna ban LS for a week until Bubba just threw in the towel.
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Not all that of an auspicious beginning.. jes sayin'..
Of course that being said, the Blues defense (calling it that is a stretch) was awful last night!
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Not all that of an auspicious beginning.. jes sayin'..
Of course that being said, the Blues defense (calling it that is a stretch) was awful last night!
And the night before...
If this D doesn't shore up and the other lines start scoring, we'll be looking at another one and done playoff series in the Spring. Still time to get it all together but the Hawks certainly reminded us how tough it is going to be if they get to firing on all cylinders...
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Pietroangelo, Shattenkirk and even Cole all seem to be more offensive minded this year and all seem to be getting caught in too deep on a regular basis. Hitchcock is known as a defensive coach. It's got to be driving him nuts!
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Was on a 6:15 AM flight from STL to Miami this morning. Chris Pronger was on it. Forgot how tall he is. He also needs a ham sammich. That dude is like 6'-6" and looks like he doesn't weigh 195. Friendly enough though. We only exchanged pleasantries. I figure people like him get tired of schmo's riddling them with questions and trying to strike up conversations. (I sat with Kurt Warner a few years back on a flight home from Tampa. It was in the concussion period for him and he looked like hell. He still had 10-20 people ask him for autographs. I just left him alone. To his credit, he was gracious with everyone, signed and took pictures.)
Great comeback win Saturday for the note...
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Now that's what you call a hockey game.
Wow.
And Senko's got a shot that's better than what's his head.
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And Senko's got a shot that's better than what's his head.
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Is there forking NOBODY in the Blues organization that has a goddamn clue when it comes to goalies? Why in the hell would you thrown Allen into the #1 role after Elliot went down and you grabbed Brodoeur?
For fork sake......if he's your #2 goalie when Elliot is up and playing, then he's STILL your #2 goalie when you sign the Hall of Famer. Brodoeur can take the heat.....but to let the rookie Allen get shelled game after game might be dumbest chit I've ever seen from Blues management.
I'm a Hitchcock fan......but that fat forker hasn't got a clue when it comes to goalies.
Oh look.....Marty pitched his 4th period of shutout hockey in a row tonight between Allen getting hammered...... wow, it's like brain surgery or something huh?
Forking idiots!!!
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I am guessing they see Allen as their netminder of the future. They are using this time to see what he's made of and if he can, in fact, be the netminder of the future. Who knows?
I will say that Marty didn't exactly turn any heads with stellar play when he's been in there. In fact, he's been very average. Between that and the age, they're probably not going to play him more than once every 3 or 4 games. He's had a few shining moments but he's also had a few opportunities to shine and hasn't. Some of that could be rust or it could be that he's 42 and may not be as good as he was. Again, who knows?
I am far more concerned about what is going on in front of the net than in it. The game last night was good example of how this team can play, if they all decide to play the same game, the same night, with maximum intensity. That has not been the case for many, many games this season. Too many payers that can't seem to bring their A game to every shift, every shot, every stride and every hit. Guys like Berglund that turn it on every so often and play lackluster the rest of the time. This team is lacking consistency in the intensity dept.
Another huge concern is the lack of scoring productivity by guys that should be scoring. Where are Steen, Oshie, Berglund, Stastny...? And take a look at some of the +/- stats. Very disappointing to see Pietrangelo at -10 and Backes at -5. Backes is still killing this team with his lack of discipline, bad penalties at the worst times and overly-aggressive play at times. The dude just has to learn to play smarter. You can't question his talent or his heart but I've said it a million times and I'll say it again; He's dumb as a bag of hammers and should not be the Captain of any team. Turn the "C" over to Tarasenko.
The good news is that there is still time to work on the weaknesses and work out some of the bugs. I'll be interested to see how they handle the keepers if Elliott comes back and stays healthy.
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I say send Allen back down.......he's not ready. The Blues already knew that or they wouldn't have signed Marty.
Elliot is the man and Brodoeur can easily handle back up duties.
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Yeah , but who deserves to wear the "C"? 
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Yeah , but who deserves to wear the "C"?
That's some stupid leftover bunch of garbage......get rid of it.
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You are not the boss of me!
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So we ride with 3 goalies until Schwartz comes back in a month?? Then what? This isn't just hedging your bets.....this is more "I don't know wtf to do".
When I think about the Blues and goalies over the past 25 years I think about oil and water.
As for the rest of their problems I am not sure what I am seeing. One night it's bad tending, the next it's horrible passing/transition play, next it's an open door at the blue line...........there's so much going wrong so often you would pretty much have to consider nuking the STC to be sure you got it fixed.
It's always about the players but can't tell me Hitchcock can go on with business as usual. It's nearly January now and yeah there's still plenty of time but soon Captain Kangaroo better have something worked out beyond "buying into the system" that's failing out there on a regular basis.
I must say with my "New Blue Philosophy" much of this has been pretty easy to handle this year. It's kinda like Hitch's "system"......you gotta buy in.......that the only thing that matters is winning playoff hockey.
The rest of it is all foreplay. And as Bubba said the other day, "who the fork but me really needs foreplay?"
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Bwaaaaahahahahaha!!! I was talking about the idea of even having a Captain, not your comment.
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Bwaaaaahahahahaha!!! I was talking about the idea of even having a Captain, not your comment.
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Geez griff, we wait days for his input and you go and insult him. I hope he forgives you and doesn't stop posting his thoughts on Blues hockey!
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Lots of trade rumors swirling. I can't imagine any team being dumb enough to take Berglund and his salary but I can keep hoping...
The word is they need to free up cap space to sign Tarasenko. He's going to cost $6-$7+ per year and they can't have some of the other salaries they have to make it work. I can't say I'd argue with doing whatever it takes to sign him. That is a once in 20-30 year player.
I think this team also misses the steady, solid play of guys like Polak and Sobotka. I was very disappointed to see both of them go. Polak was about a strong and steady on defense as they come. Sobotka was the best faceoff man I've seen in a Blues sweater in years, not to mention his great two-way play. Talk about a guy that played 200'.
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The St. Louis Blues have a GOALIE problem......that's it. Look at where they were before Elliot went down and where they have been since.
You guys overthink this crap.
If the Blues wouldn't have broke up one of the top 5 goalie tandems in the league last year we would not have been bounced as quickly as we were.....but no, you and the other boneheads wanted a goalie who could "get us into the finals"......so you got rid of part of a pair who could do it, only to bring on an epic head case.
Funny how this year it was Elliot, but last year he couldn't do it.
Brodouer is finished.....he looks horrible....and even looking that bad he can shore up the team because they at least have SOME degree of confidence in him. Not so for Allen. Allen is SO not ready for any type of regular NHL duty.....he should go back down. Elliot will help right the ship.
You can blame whatever other part of the Blue's game you want as the problem.......but every single player out there knows who is in net when they take the ice....it affects every facet of the game. And right now, the Blues have a GOALIE problem.
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You think "Blues have a goalie problem" is some kind of news?
Halak was here for 4 years. Armstrongs own guy. He never did chit. He hated it here and finally no one wanted him here. He brewed, he stewed, he whined. A real headcase. He was never going to win anything here.
As for Allen, did you not wonder why he never played a game up here all of last year? With all the problems we had?
As for Elliott, he's always been under rated overall as a goalie imo. Ottowa and St. Louis. My ONLY complaint about him is his own playoff performance. Both series he's had, he folded with soft goals after playing brilliantly early on to open the series up. And THAT'S why Armstrong did what he did last year. Right or wrong, that's why he did it. THAT'S why he brought Miller in net for post season. You wanna make a point over and over how wrong it was fine. Pretty clear it didn't work out, and you can think whatever the fork you want but not for one second do I think Halak was ever going to bring us anything.
I don't call Elliott a mistake. Not by a long shot. And he's been unfairly maligned by a lot of fans here. But Halak, Miller and very possibly Allen ARE mistakes. And that just covers the last 4 years of the Blues long running woes in goal.
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You think "Blues have a goalie problem" is some kind of news?
Halak was here for 4 years. Armstrongs own guy. He never did chit. He hated it here and finally no one wanted him here. He brewed, he stewed, he whined. A real headcase. He was never going to win anything here.
As for Allen, did you not wonder why he never played a game up here all of last year? With all the problems we had?
As for Elliott, he's always been under rated overall as a goalie imo. Ottowa and St. Louis. My ONLY complaint about him is his own playoff performance. Both series he's had, he folded with soft goals after playing brilliantly early on to open the series up. And THAT'S why Armstrong did what he did last year. Right or wrong, that's why he did it. THAT'S why he brought Miller in net for post season. You wanna make a point over and over how wrong it was fine. Pretty clear it didn't work out, and you can think whatever the fork you want but not for one second do I think Halak was ever going to bring us anything.
I don't call Elliott a mistake. Not by a long shot. And he's been unfairly maligned by a lot of fans here. But Halak, Miller and very possibly Allen ARE mistakes. And that just covers the last 4 years of the Blues long running woes in goal.
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! This from the guy who sang the praises of Miller and Allen and has always talked Elliot down. What a damn joke.
The fact remains..... Halak and Elliot were one of the top goalie tandems in the league last year and the Blues were at the top of their game.......and then we brought the forking head case idiot in. You all sang like little girls.....and the entire season went up in smoke.
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Blah blah blah. Two months ago you said this team was the best in hockey. Now it's all ruined because Halak isn't here? Good grief man.
When did I rave on Allen? I wondered why he wasn't brought up last year, now I know why.
The main thing I've said negative on Elliott is about his post season play the past 2 years.
Best tandem in hockey? bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...............right, Armstrong got rid of Halak, who he traded for, who he waited for, who never did chit here in 4 years, for the fun of it. And just when he was ready to come thru.
You can't make this kind of good chit up.
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Blah blah blah. Two months ago you said this team was the best in hockey. Now it's all ruined because Halak isn't here? Good grief man.
When did I rave on Allen? I wondered why he wasn't brought up last year, now I know why.
The main thing I've said negative on Elliott is about his post season play the past 2 years.
Best tandem in hockey? bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...............right, Armstrong got rid of Halak, who he traded for, who he waited for, who never did chit here in 4 years, for the fun of it. And just when he was ready to come thru.
You can't make this kind of good chit up.
Listen you bonehead....the fact of the matter is that as a tandem, Halak and Elliot had the 4th best GAA in the league when Halak was traded. No, I never said Halak should be the starter.....I said Elliot should be the starter, and he should have. Instead we traded for ANOTHER starter, who would be better off as a spokesman for Zanax, and put Elliot on the bench. It was crap then and it's crap now.
And Allen.......fork Allen. He hasn't shown me chit. I hope they trade his arse.
Remember......this team also had Bishop a few years ago. I have no idea who makes the call on goalies for this organization.....but he needs to sit down and shut the fork up.
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And all of them have forked up foot work damnit!
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And all of them have forked up foot work damnit!
That may be true for Last Stand and sptsman, but Bubba can dance.....I've seen it.
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And all of them have forked up foot work damnit!
That may be true for Last Stand and sptsman, but Bubba can dance.....I've seen it.
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I'm sure that there are some folks here that have a video they can post up as proof that Bubba can hang with anything you will see on Dancing With The Stars
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Umm.. we do need to see that...
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Umm.. we do need to see that...
Uhhh..........no we don't. Bubba aint getting any younger ya know.
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Five Blues players with a hat trick this season. I think they are tied for third most goals in the League. I thought Hitch was a defensive genius???
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Welp..the last game was a shutout 
Odd that no 1 said a word bout that lowly Capitan.
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Odd that no 1 said a word bout that lowly Capitan.
Then let me reiterate what I have always said. Backes is a very good player. He could even be great. He has the skills and the heart. But he is dumb as a bag of hammers and his being the Captain is an obstacle this team has to overcome. I think they can, as long as one of the strays he picks up on the way to the games doesn't bite Tarasenko and give him rabies...
Think Pete Rose. Great talent, grinder, big heart but dumber than dirt. Too stupid to get out of his own way. Pete Rose is David Backes, without all the stray animals.
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FREE DAVID BACKES!!!.........wait......what?
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Crap... just waiting now til DB is caught betting on hockey..
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Offense showed up again...
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Offense showed up again...
Was at the game (awesome seats too). The offense and more importantly the forechecking was outstanding. While the Sharks looked flat and lifeless, you still have to give credit to the Blues for playing the way they did. What was best to see what their willingness to keep their foot on the throat of a down opponent. That's what great teams do.
If the playoffs started tomorrow, I would feel OK about this team. Oddly enough, the one area I thought they were going to be exceptional is now the biggest area of concern. Their defense is still not 100% in sync. They are still making some really bad passes in the defensive zone and their transition out of the defensive zone needs work. Once they get into and through the neutral zone, they are really good.
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Hey , you sweater wearers , it has been 4 days without some riveting indepth analysis of your beloved Blues! Don't let me down.
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Note is second in the whole NHL in scoring (Tampa is first) but is only third in their own division behind Nashville and Chicago. Playing last place Edmonton tonight. If they get their footwork right they should earn 3 points.
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how will they earn 3 pts?
does it have something to do with Bubba and Backes dancing together?
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Any sport where the guys wear sweaters get style points, right?
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Hey , you sweater wearers , it has been 4 days without some riveting indepth analysis of your beloved Blues! Don't let me down.
You may have to swear off hockey altogether once you hear what else they wear, like breezers and garter belts to hold up their stockings...
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Nice win tonight. You'd a been proud Bubba.
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Top team in scoring....when was the last time that happened?
Elliot is looking sharp...not out of position once tonight.
Man, I miss Miller....if we just had him every piece would be in place.
Go Blue!
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Excellent footwork by Elliott tonight. Second most shutouts for a Blues goalie behind..wait for it... Wait for it... HALAK!!!
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OK we are 45 games into a 82 regular game season. At this point in the season who do you think is the Blues MVP? Tarasenko is the obvious choice as he leads in goals, points and +/-. But is he the MVP? The Note I think is someting like 11-1 since Jaden Schwartz came back from his injury? Is it Shattenkirk? The Captain Backes?:scratch:
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Ponderous....ponderous indeed . Let me think on it and ill get back to you. Leaning toward Gretzky as of now.
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Top team in scoring....when was the last time that happened?
Elliot is looking sharp...not out of position once tonight.
Man, I miss Miller....if we just had him every piece would be in place.
Go Blue!
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He has played decent and I am as hopeful as anyone that he stays healthy and can steal a game or two in the playoffs. But to date, his playoff history is not a good one. Let's hope that is all behind him. You are not going to win in the playoffs without solid, if not stellar goaltending... Elliot has not been either in past playoffs.
Blues MVP is Tarasenko. #2 or maybe even co-MVP would be Shattenkirk. After that there is a pack that has played well but not to MVP levels. Mostly because they have not been consistent and played at their peak for more than week or two here and there. Berglund is the LVP, especially when you consider his salary. What a waste of talent, money and a roster spot.
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They are fun to watch. They are second in the league in goals scored per game but only in 23rd place in average goals allowed per game. Not the recipe for playoff success in my opinion. Playoffs games are usually a lot lower scoring. This style is OK for regular season success but not on the playoffs. What's weird is that Hitchcock is known as a defensive coach??
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Jaden Schwartz is the oil that makes the wheels spin fast.....he is the ONLY player on that team that hasn't taken a single shift off. He works harder and creates more chances than anyone on that team. When he was injured the wheels slowed down considerably.
Schwartz is the MVP of the Blues at this point of the season......easily.
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Jaden Schwartz is the oil that makes the wheels spin fast.....he is the ONLY player on that team that hasn't taken a single shift off. He works harder and creates more chances than anyone on that team. When he was injured the wheels slowed down considerably.
Schwartz is the MVP of the Blues at this point of the season......easily.
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Are you smokin' crack again? Schwartz is a very good player and certainly an important cog in this team. But if you think he is the team MVP over Tarasenko or Shattenkirk, you are either wacky on the junk or just trying to get a rise out of Bubba and me. Even Bubba can see that your assessment is flawed. No doubt they missed him while he was out but they also had Elliot out for a portion of that time and were playing the best teams in the NHL.
If you had to start a team with only one player, using the first 45 games of this season as your guide, you would pick Schwartz over Tarasenko and Shattenkirk? Please tell me you haven't lost your mind...
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I think +/- is the most important statistic in hockey. As such, both of the-players you mentioned and Lehtera join Schwartz in the top 20 league leaders in that statistic.....except that Schwartz has played 7 fewer games.
Yeah, I can find plenty of goal scorers to build a team around, and I can find plenty of good D as well.....you can't find 5 guys in the league who come to play every single shift and create scoring chances every time they are on the ice. Schwartz does. He gets my vote hands down.....again, he's the oil that runs the wheels.
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As to MVP, I would say the jury is still out between the two.
When Schwartz was out, we went to hell, never did find the line combos to win. Pretty hard to overstate his importance on this team. He does it all.
Let's just say 2010 first round was perhaps the best single draft day in Blues history.
Blues are clicking well right now, in January. Good goal tending and great team play. I think we are about done with the Sharks, Kings and Ducks and 2 left with Vancouver so it will come down to lots of games in the East and a really tough schedule within maybe hockeys best division.
But if Hitchcock pulls out all the stops like last year and goes off on another Presidents Trophy hunt I'm gonna go down there and strangle that mofo.
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As to MVP, I would say the jury is still out between the two.
The jury has to make a call now. It was based on the first 45 games of the season. So, make a pick.
griffin, +/- may be the single most telling stat but it certainly has its flaws as well. There are plenty of great players that are asked to be on "checking lines" that play against the opposition's top lines game after game. It is not as prevalent as it used to be but there are still plenty of players tasked with shutting down top lines (Patey, Zuke, Dunlop, Crombeen, etc...). Those guys will never have great +/- stats because they rarely are on the ice when their team scores and it is considered a successful night when you hold an all-star opponent to just one or two points. Backes has actually been doing some of this work recently and he only +5. Not bad but you'd think he would be +10 or better, as much as he scores. But his +5 is understandable...
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Dude, stop it. There is not a single "great" player who is asked to be on a checking line.....that's dumb as hell. There are some good grinders, and you named 4 good ones.....but there is not a single sober person on the planet that would ever call one of those players GREAT. Now....put down the heavy beer and go back to the Bud light.....you obviously can't handle the good stuff.
Right now, I say the Blues could do without Tarasenko better than they could without Schwartz.
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Tarasenko is +23, Shattenkirk is +17, Schwartz is +15... Hmmmm....
They must just be getting really lucky, with Schwartz skating so much harder than they are.
Take off your Bob Bassen sweater, put the crack pipe down and think about the absurdity of statements like "Yeah, I can find plenty of goal scorers to build a team around, and I can find plenty of good D as well..." Really? There are 4 players in the league with more goals and only 2 with a better +/- than Tarasenko. And you think they just grow on trees? You think you can just go out a draft or sign another Shattenkirk?
I think the hoppy beers have finally melted your brain away, at least the part that was supposed to do logical hockey analysis....
Let's see where Bubba weighs in on this...
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Are you ADD? Did I not say that Schwartz has played 7 fewer games? That puts him over Shattenkirks +/- and if it wasn't for Schwartz, Tarasenko would be about +15.
Tarasenko is nowhere near 23 goals without Schwartz.....deal with it.
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As to MVP, I would say the jury is still out between the two.
The jury has to make a call now. It was based on the first 45 games of the season. So, make a pick.
griffin, +/- may be the single most telling stat but it certainly has its flaws as well. There are plenty of great players that are asked to be on "checking lines" that play against the opposition's top lines game after game. It is not as prevalent as it used to be but there are still plenty of players tasked with shutting down top lines (Patey, Zuke, Dunlop, Crombeen, etc...). Those guys will never have great +/- stats because they rarely are on the ice when their team scores and it is considered a successful night when you hold an all-star opponent to just one or two points. Backes has actually been doing some of this work recently and he only +5. Not bad but you'd think he would be +10 or better, as much as he scores. But his +5 is understandable...
Mid season MVP? I don't really care. Alls I know is griffin says it's not Elliott.
We went 1-7 when Schwartz went down. We actually played worse than that. Team changed on a dime on his first game back. I got no problem with him in the running for whatever award you guys are arguing about.
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Now I'm just worried about griffin's mental health...
On the other hand, he may have a future in the NHL as an assistant to GM's. While they search high and low for the top talent to fill their rosters, apparently, he can find top goal scorers and defensemen all day long. It's guys that skate hard you just can't find...
On to the next thing...
Did anyone else hear the Jeff Brown (former Blues defenseman) interview on 550 AM last night? He's coaching in the minors but seems to be connected to everyone and have his finger on the pulse of all things hockey, from the juniors to the AHL to the NHL. Andy Strickland was the host. Jeff's son Logan is a top prospect but he's only 16 and won't be eligible for the entry draft until 2016. The kid is 6'-6" and apparently has top speed and mad skills. Logan Brown info
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Now I'm just worried about griffin's mental health...
On the other hand, he may have a future in the NHL as an assistant to GM's. While they search high and low for the top talent to fill their rosters, apparently, he can find top goal scorers and defensemen all day long. It's guys that skate hard you just can't find...
On to the next thing...
Did anyone else hear the Jeff Brown (former Blues defenseman) interview on 550 AM last night? He's coaching in the minors but seems to be connected to everyone and have his finger on the pulse of all things hockey, from the juniors to the AHL to the NHL. Andy Strickland was the host. Jeff's son Logan is a top prospect but he's only 16 and won't be eligible for the entry draft until 2016. The kid is 6'-6" and apparently has top speed and mad skills. Logan Brown info
Dear Bonehead,
It has come to our attention that you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. As has been our goal all along, we will continue to enlighten you on the finer points of hockey as it pertains to team success. With that in mind, you might want to check out the fact that Schwartz is currently ranked 38th in total points in the NHL, despite the fact that he has only played 39 games and no one above him has played less than 45. Additionally, Tarasenko has 10 more points that Schwartz. My guess, and you are free to do the math in the hope that the actual application of looking at the stats may somehow shake loose the mud that is obviously clogging your cranial pathways, is that if you subtracted from both Tarasenko and Schwartz's total points the goals that each assisted each other, you will find that Schwartz is infinitely more important to Tarasenko's hockey health than vice versa.
We know it's hard for you to look past your protruding forehead, but probably if you held a stat sheet in front of a mirror it would become more clear to you.
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griffin said: ...if you subtracted from both Tarasenko and Schwartz's total points the goals that each assisted each other...
If my grandmother had balls... Being injury prone is not a great attribute for being an MVP either. Not only is Tarasenko better, he can stay on the ice...
But I will surrender. I thought I had a good argument going then you just blew me out of the water with one number, 38. Had I known Schwartz was #38 on the points total, I would have never said a word. Wow, #38 is great. What is Tarasenko on that list, #9 or something? What a joke. Starting to wonder why they even keep him...
Again, you won this one, hands down... 
Boy, do I feel stupid. I never saw that #38 stat coming. It just hit me like a Mack truck...
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You do realize there are over 800 players with at least one point this season, 38th is top tier......and surely you also realize that both Schwartz and Tarasenko are averaging a point a game, right? (Tarasenko 1.02 and Schgwartz .95 ppg)
Again, Tarasenko needs Schwartz, not the other way around. Schwartz elevates everyone's game, no matter who he plays with. Not so for Tarasenko....no matter how good his hands are.
Try to keep up......K?
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Alls I know is griffin says it's not Elliott.
There really is no need to bring up the goalie with the best GAA in hockey and 4th best in save percentage......and just named to the All-Star team.
Man, I miss Miller.
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Do you think the style of hockey this team is playing can translate into success in the playoff?? I'm not sure. Playoff hockey games seldom resemble regular season open style hockey. The Blues are skilled but not like the Oilers of the 80's. Playoff hockey is a lot more physical and is more of a grind it out kind of game. Referees swallow whistles as well. I don't know if this team is ohysical enough.
Thoughts?
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In short, YES!!
This team is actually playing a sort of playoff style hockey now. Their forechecking and offensive pressure is very much like what you see in successful playoff hockey. They're winning the battles along the boards and in the corners and they have tremendous puck control, especially in the offensive zone. Most importantly, they have the strength and skill level to compete with Chicago, LA, Nashville, San Jose, Anaheim, etc...
Here are the concerns for the playoffs. The first is just luck of the draw... They play in the Western Conference. I think the team that comes out of the West is going to have a harder road than the team from the East. Second, is goaltending. No team wins the Cup without very good or even great netminding. Elliot is a very good goaltender but has not produced in the playoffs. In fact he has flopped in past playoffs. Let's hope he has matured and grown. He has the skills and shows us now he's darn good. But Miller and Halak were very good in the regular seasons too. I am confident he will rise to the task. He's a pretty solid guy, from what we can see. Third is injuries. Last year the Blues limped into the playoffs with several top players not nearly at 100%. They need to stay healthy. I wouldn't even mind seeing a few mysterious "upper body" injuries that give some of the guys a few games off in the last 10-20 games of the season. Fourth is the mind game. This team needs to think like a winner and play like a winner. Going up against Chicago and LA can be very intimidating and the Blues folded like a cheap tent last year. They need to learn how to get up and keep their foot on the throat of the opponent.
I have not seen a Blues team with this good of a chance at the cup in over 20 years.
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Bubba?
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I still see a lot of turnovers in their own end and in the neutral zone. They have cut them down in the last month but still give up a lot of odd man rushes. Playoff games usually end up 2 -1 or 3-2 and mistakes can kill you in those situations.
And it could be too many years of me thinking "This is the year!" only to watch them go down in flames..
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...and surely you also realize that both Schwartz and Tarasenko are averaging a point a game, right? (Tarasenko 1.02 and Schgwartz .95 ppg)
Again, I concede. You just keep blowing me out of the water with these stats. First I have to concede that any sane person would want he guy that is 38th in points over the guy that is 9th. As if that wasn't enough humiliation, I now have to admit that a guy scoring 1.02 points per game is clearly inferior to the guy scoring .95 ppg. Oh the humiliation!!
Maybe you should just stop posting stats. I can't take it any more...
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OK, just so I am clear in my concession speech... As long as Schwartz is on the ice and skating really hard, most players in Tarasenko's position would have the same or similar success. And without Schwartz on the ice, skating really hard all the time, Tarasenko is just another average player? Or as you put it, Tarasenko needs Schwartz but Schwartz does not need Tarasenko. I think I got it now...
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And it could be too many years of me thinking "This is the year!" only to watch them go down in flames..
It's called being a Blues fan. Get used to it...
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...and surely you also realize that both Schwartz and Tarasenko are averaging a point a game, right? (Tarasenko 1.02 and Schgwartz .95 ppg)
Again, I concede. You just keep blowing me out of the water with these stats. First I have to concede that any sane person would want he guy that is 38th in points over the guy that is 9th. As if that wasn't enough humiliation, I now have to admit that a guy scoring 1.02 points per game is clearly inferior to the guy scoring .95 ppg. Oh the humiliation!!
Maybe you should just stop posting stats. I can't take it any more...
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OK, just so I am clear in my concession speech... As long as Schwartz is on the ice and skating really hard, most players in Tarasenko's position would have the same or similar success. And without Schwartz on the ice, skating really hard all the time, Tarasenko is just another average player? Or as you put it, Tarasenko needs Schwartz but Schwartz does not need Tarasenko. I think I got it now...
Please tell me you're just trolling...
Schwartz makes everyone on the ice better.....Tarasenko doesn't have that ability. Schwartz HANDS DOWN over Tarasenko for MVP.....you might be able to make a case for Shattenkirk.....but no way for Tarasenko. He's got great hands and a great shot....a pure goal scorer. But not the most valuable player to THIS team. In fact, he hasn't really done chit that last 7-10 games.......the Blues don't have to have a scoring Tarasenko to win. We've already seen what happens when Schwartz is out of the lineup.
On another note, genius, if you take Schwartz ppg avg. over 46 games like Tarasenko has and he is 16th in the league.....you might want to look who is in the top 20 before you start trying to make your next case that top 20 doesn't make you team MVP material.
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Here's a little sumptin sumptin for bofus of you crackers:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/schw...ists/ar-AA8uhM2
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Here's a little sumptin sumptin for bofus of you crackers:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/schw...ists/ar-AA8uhM2
I don't need to see that.......but make sure the south half of dumb and dumber gets a look.
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Do you think the style of hockey this team is playing can translate into success in the playoff?? I'm not sure. Playoff hockey games seldom resemble regular season open style hockey. The Blues are skilled but not like the Oilers of the 80's. Playoff hockey is a lot more physical and is more of a grind it out kind of game. Referees swallow whistles as well. I don't know if this team is ohysical enough.
Thoughts?
While ya'll are all busy giving out awards at mid season, not even mid season since the REAL SEASON is 2 plus months away, let's take a look at the last 10 games played.
We are 7-3. Great. Woohoo.
Only problem is the 3 losses came against the Ducks, the Preds and the Wings.
Uhhhhhhh.....the good teams. The type of teams you have to beat from the git go in this playoff format.
I do think Schwartz, Lehtera and Teresenko have added a huge missing ingredient for playoff success that this team has sorely needed. If Hitchcock doesn't fork this thing up I think the offense is good enough to win post season. And I think these 3 guys have forced Hitch to change up his puck control system a little bit too.
That leaves goal tending and defense as to how deep we can go, imo.
griffin says Elliotts gold. We'll see. If he is, one huge hurdle jumped.
As for this D being ready in play offs? I don't see it good enough or tough enough to go deep. If the team makes a big move before the deadline, I think it's going to be on the blue line. And it better not be for another quick stick. We need some beef.
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Do you think the style of hockey this team is playing can translate into success in the playoff?? I'm not sure. Playoff hockey games seldom resemble regular season open style hockey. The Blues are skilled but not like the Oilers of the 80's. Playoff hockey is a lot more physical and is more of a grind it out kind of game. Referees swallow whistles as well. I don't know if this team is ohysical enough.
Thoughts?
While ya'll are all busy giving out awards at mid season, not even mid season since the REAL SEASON is 2 plus months away, let's take a look at the last 10 games played.
We are 7-3. Great. Woohoo.
Only problem is the 3 losses came against the Ducks, the Preds and the Wings.
Uhhhhhhh.....the good teams. The type of teams you have to beat from the git go in this playoff format.
I do think Schwartz, Lehtera and Teresenko have added a huge missing ingredient for playoff success that this team has sorely needed. If Hitchcock doesn't fork this thing up I think the offense is good enough to win post season. And I think these 3 guys have forced Hitch to change up his puck control system a little bit too.
That leaves goal tending and defense as to how deep we can go, imo.
griffin says Elliotts gold. We'll see. If he is, one huge hurdle jumped.
As for this D being ready in play offs? I don't see it good enough or tough enough to go deep. If the team makes a big move before the deadline, I think it's going to be on the blue line. And it better not be for another quick stick. We need some beef.
Dude.....you must have gotten a good nights sleep....there is some decent sense in that. I think Jackman has lost a step.
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I don't know if it's the defensemens fault or the wingers for not rotating but our offensive minded defensemen get caught too deep in the zone a lot leading to odd man rushes for their opponents. We really don't have an enforcer type defenseman either.
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OK Whatever the All Star game has become is now over. Second season starts for the Note on Thursday versus the Preds. In reality less than 50% of the season remains. So time to put on your NHLstradamus hats:
Do the Blues win the Central?
Do the Blues end up with more than 105 points?
Does Tarasenko score 40 goals and/ or 80 points?
Does Scwartz score 30 goals and/ or 80 points?
Which of the two above is more likely?
Does Elliott end up with the best GAA in the league?
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Schwartz
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How unusual for you to make predictions before things happen..
Do the Blues win the Central? YES
Do the Blues end up with more than 105 points? YES
Does Tarasenko score 40 goals and/ or 80 points? Points yes, goals no
Does Schwartz score 30 goals and/ or 80 points? Same as Tarasenko
Which of the two above is more likely? Agreed on Schwartz
Does Elliott end up with the best GAA in the league? NO
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See, Schwartz even makes Bubba better...
Schwartz or sharts?????
Cause I have actually been around him after a couple of sharts......they don't help one damn bit!!!
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dabs , please stay off our thread. This is all hockey all the time.
The Royals thread will start in a few months.
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The Blues gave away a point last night in my opinion. I really think they were out-played in the third third pretty thoroughly. Way too many giveaways in their own zone. A game like that will cost them dearly in the playoffs.
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And for those keeping score at home - a goal for Schwartz (How did he miss that chance in OT??) and an assist for Tarasenko..
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The Blues gave away a point last night in my opinion. I really think they were out-played in the third third pretty thoroughly. Way too many giveaways in their own zone. A game like that will cost them dearly in the playoffs.
That was not their best game but... 1) They hadn't played in 10 days. Being disorganized at times and some sloppy play was to be expected. 2) They came back from a 2 goal deficit to get a win. 3) They were playing the 2nd best team in the NHL (by point standings).
I'll look at it as picking up a point on Nashville, rather than giving away anything...
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And for those keeping score at home - a goal for Schwartz (How did he miss that chance in OT??) and an assist for Tarasenko..
But both were -2... That is a little something to watch for against the better teams. Both of those guys are young and still developing their two-way play. Schwartz is actually a little better than Tarasenko in that area right now. If you were watching the last 6-8 games closely, Tarasenko has a few cough-ups and poor back-checking efforts in some of those games. I have little doubt Hitchcock and the coaching staff are working with him on that.
How about Ryan "Bret Hull" Reaves last night? Letting one go from the top of the circle and going 5-hole? Who would have guessed Reaves and Ott would account for half of the scoring against Nashville?
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Who would have guessed Reaves and Ott would account for half of the scoring against Nashville?
I can't say I expected that, but I expect more from that line now with Goc at center.
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If it was "God" at center I may agree with you...
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Timmy - mark down that line's stats for the first half of the season....and then watch where they are in the second half with Goc. You will see a marked difference. He can play.
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Oh look....another goal tonight by Reaves after Goc does the hard work in the corner.
Bubba - pay attention, I'll teach you something about hockey that the lugheads you've been reading don't quite understand.
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Ok , so I watched part of the all star game and skills competition. Question: what happened to the guys with scars , flat noses and missing teeth ? I swear they looked like a junior college cross country team. Pretty boys with great hair....
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I swear they looked like a junior college cross country team. Pretty boys with great hair....
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Ryan Reaves for MVP! In the last two games his points per game is higher than Tarasenko or Schwartz!!
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BIG road win for the Blues today in Washington. Those are the games they have to win. Stastny still needs to get going....he has been a disappointment. This team can be complete if he ups his game to his talent level.
Hopefully Shattenkirk is not injured badly.
This is a really good hockey club.
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BIG road win for the Blues today in Washington. Those are the games they have to win. Stastny still needs to get going....he has been a disappointment. This team can be complete if he ups his game to his talent level.
Hopefully Shattenkirk is not injured badly.
This is a really good hockey club.
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^ this. Back to you Bubba.
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BIG road win for the Blues today in Washington. Those are the games they have to win. Stastny still needs to get going....he has been a disappointment. This team can be complete if he ups his game to his talent level.
Hopefully Shattenkirk is not injured badly.
This is a really good hockey club.
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It was a heck of a game. All 60.
And one of Elliotts best.
Winning it without Shatt, Backes, Lehtera and Berglund?
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Surgery for Shattenkirk.........that hurts.
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A weird play it was.
Injury remains a bit mysterious. "abdominal" surgery. Waiting a week. Hernia?
Cole and Butler with more time now and I guess we'll see one of the up and comers on the wolves move up at some point.
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Could be that Shattenkirk will miss 20 or more games. Blues are playing it close to the vest but if it is a sports hernia it will be at least that long. That's a big hole to fill. I hope he can get back, and get in playing shape, soon enough to contribute in the playoffs. They'll need him.
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Wow!!!!
If we just had Ryan Miller.
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Well we don't.
And better yet, we don't have Halak.
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Wow!!!!
If we just had Ryan Miller.
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I believe the "Beating a dead horse smilie" was created with Griffin specifically in mind.. jes sayin'..
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Wow!!!!
If we just had Ryan Miller.
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I believe the "Beating a dead horse smilie" was created with Griffin specifically in mind.. jes sayin'..
'Tis true.......I'm never going to get over breaking up what was one of the best goalie tandems in hockey at the time for a washed up head case....and the fawning by these idiots over it.
No, I don't think Halak was a #1.....but even then Elliot sure as hell was. That trade was an abortion....and we got dick for Halak.
The Blues and their fans are retards when it comes to goalies. Uh......just a reminder.....we had Bishop too.
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Let's see you have the two highest scoring teams in the League.. and you end regulation in a 1 - 1 tie?? Was this a playoff game?? What an individual move by Schwartz for the game winner - that was awesome! Elliot stood on his head in that game.
Agreed that it was a real character win for the team. 
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13 game point streak! And don't look now but the Note sits atop the Central..
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13 game point streak! And don't look now but the Note sits atop the Central..
While finishing first will be beneficial for the playoffs, I am not losing sleep over it. A Cup is the only goal this year. I could care less about the Presidents Trophy or anything else. It is Stanley Cup or bust!!!
That being said, this team is fun to watch...
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Wow!!!!
If we just had Ryan Miller.
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I believe the "Beating a dead horse smilie" was created with Griffin specifically in mind.. jes sayin'..
'Tis true.......I'm never going to get over breaking up what was one of the best goalie tandems in hockey at the time for a washed up head case....and the fawning by these idiots over it.
No, I don't think Halak was a #1.....but even then Elliot sure as hell was. That trade was an abortion....and we got dick for Halak.
The Blues and their fans are retards when it comes to goalies. Uh......just a reminder.....we had Bishop too.
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You think if we had kept the headcase we would have done something in the playoffs last year?? Right.
Yeah it was not a great trade. BFD. EXCEPT half of it was. He dumped Halak. DA did get that right. Hell of a silver lining if you ask me.
And as far as this great tandem of yours goes, funny but A) in 4 years it never got us jack sh1t and B) so far Elliott has NEVER played better for a more sustained period of time since the midget left town.
In fact I'll put money on it Ell's is the happiest guy in town that he's gone. 'Splain that.
No wait. Forget about that. I'll just wait for your next regularly scheduled tirade on trading Halak.
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You bonehead. I have no problem with Halak being gone. Except that he would be a better backup than Allen is. My problem was always that Elliot should have been the #1.....as he is now. I'm ok with Allen....but he's a long way from being able to carry the team. Elliot can, and he could have last year. He is one of the top goalies in the league.
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Yeah , but , Elliot stunk up the place last night..
Holy chit.
Now we got a dixie boy wagon jumper talkin smack about friggen ice hockey.
Bubba.......stick with grits.
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Yesterday's Hawks game was a statement game. The Hawks made it perfectly clear they are still the team to beat and did so in the Blues' own house. The Blues made a clear statement that they can play pretty good but will likely get knocked out in the early rounds of the playoffs. Elliott made a statement that when it gets down to crunch time and he needs to make big saves to win a game, he just isn't up to it. I hope he changes but he he is showing why they got Miller last year. All three of those goals were good plays by the Hawks and a few bad plays by the Blues. But you couldn't rate any of them "unstoppable" for a top tier goalie. The loss certainly wasn't Elliotts fault but he could have made the win his to own...
Still time to work on some of the poor outlet passes and mishaps that lead to scoring chances but that time is getting short. They miss Shattenkirk to be sure but all teams have to deal with injury and adversity. Of all the defensemen only Cole seems to have stepped up his play to compensate for the shortage. And he wasn't exactly Norris material before... Very disappointing to see Petro and Bouwmeester playing at such average levels...
This is where Hitchcock earns his paycheck...
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Yesterday's Hawks game was a statement game.
I love the way "hockey people" throw this term around. What a crock of horseshit. The Blues need to make some adjustments now that Shattenkirk is down.....that's pretty much the only thing that has changed from the team that took 25 of 26 points before losing the last two. This game says NOTHING about this team that has played 7 games in 11 days without some big guns....traveling back and forth non-stop.
Geezus....."statement game".....forking stop already. There are 28 games left.
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I really outta stick wiff goff cause Its obvious that I know more bout pasture pool ( you can add regular pool 2 ) ( cept Duko ..he whipped me bad @ Delta get-2-gether in Kirkwad @ billards ) & can prolly outgoff 99.99% of u yeah oozs still.
I regress to what I've seen from the Blues lately.
Allen should be the man right now.
Jack (masterbateman) has been horrible.
For sure the absence of Shatt. is a HUGE factor all-around.
Maybe Hitch can get Tiger to give the Note a pep talk in the near future. Woods will prolly have the "rest" of the year for such engagements 
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& woods could prolly "hook' some of the dudes up with some local talent for off-nights  
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Yesterday's Hawks game was a statement game.
I love the way "hockey people" throw this term around. What a crock of horseshit. The Blues need to make some adjustments now that Shattenkirk is down.....that's pretty much the only thing that has changed from the team that took 25 of 26 points before losing the last two. This game says NOTHING about this team that has played 7 games in 11 days without some big guns....traveling back and forth non-stop.
Geezus....."statement game".....forking stop already. There are 28 games left.
People throw that around because it has some merit. You really don't think the Hawks left STL Sunday afternoon feeling just a little more confident about who they are and how they just handled the Blues? You really don't think some, if not most of the Blues felt they were just reminded of the last two years of playoff exits (one of which was by the Hawks!!)? You really don't think Elliott left that building wondering "what if" he would have made just one or two more saves? No doubt he has the talent and skills. The doubt is whether or not he has the mental toughness to succeed in the big games. Yesterday was a big game...
I am placing all of my hope in the fact the Hitchcock can coach them through this and have them ready for the playoffs. And I'm praying like hell Elliott can finally rise to the occasion, instead of folding like a cheap tent when he's needed the most...
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Yesterday's Hawks game was a statement game.
I love the way "hockey people" throw this term around. What a crock of horseshit. The Blues need to make some adjustments now that Shattenkirk is down.....that's pretty much the only thing that has changed from the team that took 25 of 26 points before losing the last two. This game says NOTHING about this team that has played 7 games in 11 days without some big guns....traveling back and forth non-stop.
Geezus....."statement game".....forking stop already. There are 28 games left.
People throw that around because it has some merit. You really don't think the Hawks left STL Sunday afternoon feeling just a little more confident about who they are and how they just handled the Blues? You really don't think some, if not most of the Blues felt they were just reminded of the last two years of playoff exits (one of which was by the Hawks!!)? You really don't think Elliott left that building wondering "what if" he would have made just one or two more saves? No doubt he has the talent and skills. The doubt is whether or not he has the mental toughness to succeed in the big games. Yesterday was a big game...
I am placing all of my hope in the fact the Hitchcock can coach them through this and have them ready for the playoffs. And I'm praying like hell Elliott can finally rise to the occasion, instead of folding like a cheap tent when he's needed the most...
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! No, I think Elliot probably left that building thinking....I'm hungry, let's go grab a burger.
I believe Hitchcock's answer when asked if this was a "character game" (another made up phrase by hockey dimwits) was, "uh....not with a third of the schedule still to play".
Seriously......we can save the catchy hockey phrases for a while and just enjoy some really good hockey.
Two losses and you revert to meaningless hockey clichés.....you sound like Backes.
I'm thinking we should take your moderator status away and make you Captain.
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Hawks lost a statement game to the Coyotes last night at home. Now the Coyotes have another statement game tonight with the Note at Scotttrade.
Any statements regarding this Griffin, Bubba, sptsman, etc.??
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Oh man....you mean the Hawks lost a Character home game after 6 road games. I bet they left the rink wanting to slit their wrists.
Damn....all that confidence they got after winning the Statement game against the Blues is all gone now.
Crushing.
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Can I rescind my Statement that the Blues will win the Central since Shattenkirk went down?
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Nice win for the Blues tonight.....I guess you can't call it a Statement....but it certainly was a nice Prepositional Phrase.
I'll take the 2 points.
You damn nitwits!!!
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I resemble being called a nitwit!
Talk about a game that changed, then changed again and then changed again!! I thought the Coyotes had the Blues on their heels early in the first period. Then I thought that game could have easily been 4 or 5 to 1 in the second if not for the Coyotes goalie Smith. The Blues dominated and turned the second period into a shooting gallery and then the Coyotes did the same in the third and Allen played well. Fun game to watch and a good win for the Note - but I thought it more of a proclamation game than a statement game.
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And tonight Vancouver beat Chicago to hand them their 2nd OT loss in a row since the Blackhawk win over the Blues..... I'll tell you what, making a statement must be hard on a team.
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Man, that Chicago game, when the team was just adjusting to Shattenkirk being down, sure seems like a harbinger of what's to come, huh?
Let's see here......15-2-1 over the last 18 games.
I'll take it.....but I sure wish Elliot would play better, yeah?
I mean, come on.....we need some consistency from him in order to really make a run, right? 3rd in GAA and 4th in Save Percentage just goes to show you how inconsistent he is.
Maybe we can make a trade for a true starter. LMAO
Nitwits.
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Elliott played great yesterday. He literally stole the game, particularly in the 3rd.
And that's good. I've seen a lot of good with this team over the years. But I don't care if it's Ell's or Senko or Backes or Schwartz......the only good I want to see is April on.
Make the play offs and win.
I believe most players on this team need to add that little tidbit to their resume. It's past time they do that.
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That was FUGLY last night...
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I was there......and when this team is bad....it's horrible. There was actually one point where there was a scrum after the play in front of the Dallas net and there was a lot of pushing and shoving.......forking Steen and another player actually just skated away and watched it from the bench. Tarasenko got shoved around by everyone and anyone. The Blues had absolutely no skating room because Dallas just clogged up the neutral zone so well.
The Blues, as they sit, cannot win the Stanley Cup.
They are not tough enough.
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Even "Panger" commented when it happened that when Roussel (sp?) knocked down Tarasenko after the play that it was odd that none of his Blues teammates even went after Roussel. Maybe that was what Jackman was doing in the third?
All three of the forwards on your top two lines were minus players last night.
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I can't figure out what the fork Tarasenko was doing last night. I have seen him try to be way too cute with passes, etc. in the last few months......last night he wouldn't even pass the puck. It was almost like someone had talked to him about shooting more and he took it to another level.
The Blues absolutely sucked last night. There is not one good takeaway from that game.
My daughter looked a bit horrified when I caught myself yelling "whatever you do, Bergland, don't hit anyone.....just skate around".
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I can't figure out what the fork Tarasenko was doing last night. I have seen him try to be way too cute with passes, etc. in the last few months......last night he wouldn't even pass the puck. It was almost like someone had talked to him about shooting more and he took it to another level.
The Blues absolutely sucked last night. There is not one good takeaway from that game.
My daughter looked a bit horrified when I caught myself yelling "whatever you do, Bergland, don't hit anyone.....just skate around".
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Well.. I don't think anyone got hurt last night.. so there is that..
And you could probably yell that at every game..
BTW it is entertaining to trade texts with Wags during a game at least.. until he shuts it off in disgust..
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BTW if last night was a statement game, the statement would be WE SUCK!
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ahhhhh March is approaching, spring may soon be in the air.
l'es see......spring agenda...........check Blues stats.....hmmm.....
Ell's is 2-4 his last 6 starts.
Allen is 6-0 his last 6 starts.
What is the meaning of this?
What is the meaning of life?
I need a Blues expert to sort all of this out.....I'll come back and let ya'll know the answers when I find one.
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Well to me it looks like Allen is doing better than Els. Is that ernie Els ? Ray Allen?
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ahhhhh March is approaching, spring may soon be in the air.
l'es see......spring agenda...........check Blues stats.....hmmm.....
Ell's is 2-4 his last 6 starts.
Allen is 6-0 his last 6 starts.
What is the meaning of this?
What is the meaning of life?
I need a Blues expert to sort all of this out.....I'll come back and let ya'll know the answers when I find one.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
There ya go.......create a goalie controversy when there isn't one.....just in time for the playoffs. So typical of Blue's "fans".
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Schwartz will make him better. Schwartz make everyone better...
Did I mention Backes is a great player and the worst possible "C" you could have for this team?
Going to the game Tuesday night. Predicting a 3-1 or 4-1 win for the boyz.
Any word on when Shattenkirk is coming back?
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Did I mention Backes is a great player and the worst possible "C" you could have for this team?
I'm coming around to that.
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There is no FORKING reason.....NONE....for Jake Allen to be starting in goal. This platooning of goaltenders NEVER works. I don't know when the Blues management will pull their collective heads out of their collective arses when it comes to goalies......but this organization is THE WORST at managing them.
Brian Elliot is the starting goaltender......PERIOD. Do you see Nashville or Montreal or any other top team playing their backup against us? NO!!! Because that's forking stupid!!!
GODDAMIT!!!!!!!!!!
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MOTHERFORKER!!!!!!!!!!
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I keep hearing Jake Allen is the future. Well, if he is "the future" then he must not be ready yet. That ugly fact keeps rearing its head, like last night. The first goal was not on him. A deflection that no goalie would have saved. Goals 2,3,4 & 5, however, were all stoppable and were opportunities for him to come up big and save the unorganized, sloppy team in front of him.
Allen was not sharp enough last night but that game was lost with anyone in goal. This team is in a funk right now that is disturbing. Their inability to exit the defensive zone in any fashion that resembles an organized, prepared hockey team is non-existent. They make absolutely idiotic passed through the center of the ice, in their own end and try one cute pass after another. Way too many of those passes end up in odd-man rushes and breakaways against them. The Habs must have had a dozen very high quality scoring chances on turnovers from ill-advised or sloppy passes.
This team has a bit of an issue right now and it seems to have a lot to do with players trying to be too cute or make plays on their own. When this team was rolling it was a true team effort. Now it looks like a bunch of guys, each trying to make that one big play. That rarely breeds success...
Still time to fix it but time is growing shorter and shorter...
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They make absolutely idiotic passed through the center of the ice, in their own end and try one cute pass after another. Way too many of those passes end up in odd-man rushes and breakaways against them.
No chit!! Shoot the forking puck......damn.
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For what Backes lacks as a "C" he can damn sure work the front of a net as well as anyone. Put shots on goal from the slots, from the points, from anywhere!! Then let Backes screen, deflect, get rebounds, etc. Why they feel the need to make six passes within 15' of the goal baffles me.
At the game last night, I took the opportunity to focus on Berglund. He got moved up to the #1 line and got some more ice time. What a forkin' mistake that was! He is NHL's worst value, for the salary he's making. I don't know if I have ever seen a player so sporadic, inconsistent and generally heartless, in all my years of watching hockey. There are times he looks like he's just skating around, killing time. He got beat to at least a half dozen pucks last night where it appeared he just didn't give a chit. They would now be better off just eating his salary and bringing someone up...
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There is no FORKING reason.....NONE....for Jake Allen to be starting in goal. This platooning of goaltenders NEVER works. I don't know when the Blues management will pull their collective heads out of their collective arses when it comes to goalies......but this organization is THE WORST at managing them.
Brian Elliot is the starting goaltender......PERIOD. Do you see Nashville or Montreal or any other top team playing their backup against us? NO!!! Because that's forking stupid!!!
GODDAMIT!!!!!!!!!!
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Context.......please.
Let's not compare Rinne to Ell's. On anything.
But point taken. Hitch over reacts to most everything that happens on the ice. Line changes up the wazzu, calling them out after every loss, and pretty much over management of the tending.
The problem is, he has a history of doing all this without result.
It's a players issue, they need to work through it and yeah they need a kick in the azz from time to time, but dammit Hitch has to change his act as well.
Get this team READY for April.
There's still time.
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Elliott was strong tonight. Giving up a tying goal in the third is bad. Stupid penalty by Backes late could have cost the game. What's up with Tarasenko and shooting wide? Was this a statement game?
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"Statement"....read......Bergland is HOT!!!!!!!
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Elliott was strong tonight. Giving up a tying goal in the third is bad. Stupid penalty by Backes late could have cost the game. What's up with Tarasenko and shooting wide? Was this a statement game?
Backes is just getting ready for the playoffs. If you recall the last tow years he spent significant time in the penalty box, at very critical times. He's got a huge heart and huge talent but he is not a leader and does some really dumb stuff at the most inopportune times...
The Blues had an overall inordinate number of shots miss the net. It skewed the SOG stats. Pang said the scouting report was that Hutchinson went down a lot, so they must have been shooting high, based on film study. Might be a case of too much film and not enough common sense. The stats are clear, 100% of shots that go high, will not result in goal.
All games in March and April are statement games. This is where teams start to get into playoff mode. The ice gets smaller, the checking is tighter and the play intensifies. Don't look now but LA is doing what they do. Prior to last night's game they had won 8 in a row. That is an organization that gets it. They're peaking at the right time and will be formidable in the playoffs...
Hopefully, some GM was scouting Berglund last night. He played reasonably well. Exceptional, for him. Maybe someone will offer a bag of pucks for him and the Blues will only have to eat half of his salary.
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Hopefully, some GM was scouting Berglund last night. He played reasonably well. Exceptional, for him. Maybe someone will offer a bag of pucks for him and the Blues will only have to eat half of his salary.
Funny.....I've been wondering if all the ice time he's been getting and being put on the first line a few nights ago (because there is no way in hell he's a 1st liner) is a showcase attempt for some team that is interested in him. We can only hope.
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I'm ignorant enough to know what penalties are what, and that's the extent of my knowledge, so I'm sure I enjoy the game more than most,
With that said, I enjoyed watching them beat Bubba's old team last night..
And for the record, no one was b*tchin (cept sptsman) when they had won 11 or so in a row a month ago.. bunch of fair weather fans..
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The Blues gave away a point last night in my opinion. I really think they were out-played in the third third pretty thoroughly. Way too many giveaways in their own zone. A game like that will cost them dearly in the playoffs.
Yep that's me a fair weather fan. Posted on 1/30/15..
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Backes is just getting ready for the playoffs. If you recall the last tow years he spent significant time in the penalty box, at very critical times. He's got a huge heart and huge talent but he is not a leader and does some really dumb stuff at the most inopportune times...
Don't look now but LA is doing what they do. Prior to last night's game they had won 8 in a row. That is an organization that gets it. They're peaking at the right time and will be formidable in the playoffs...
Yeah, let's go to the playoffs without David Backes and all the terrible mistakes he makes while he tries to nearly single handily make this team even remotely physical.
Go ask Johnatan Towes what he thinks of all of DB's horrible mistakes that somehow exclude him in your mind as a captain. Or Cid Crosby, the super sharpshooter who has never scored on the Blues.
And the Kings? Remarkable, isn't it? All those Cups?
And their Captain is Dustin Brown.
Lemme guess, you'd rather have that moron as our captain.
There's about 3 players right now that I can think of who could be a good captain on this team. And DB is one of them. So get it thru your thick skull.......clear out the forkin cobwebs........he is NOT one of the many problems this Blues team has had trying to win in the playoffs.
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Yep that's me a fair weather fan. Posted on 1/30/15..
My apologies Tim. Didn't mean to hurt your damn feelings..
It was all meant as a joke..
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Backes is just getting ready for the playoffs. If you recall the last tow years he spent significant time in the penalty box, at very critical times. He's got a huge heart and huge talent but he is not a leader and does some really dumb stuff at the most inopportune times...
Don't look now but LA is doing what they do. Prior to last night's game they had won 8 in a row. That is an organization that gets it. They're peaking at the right time and will be formidable in the playoffs...
Yeah, let's go to the playoffs without David Backes and all the terrible mistakes he makes while he tries to nearly single handily make this team even remotely physical.
Go ask Johnatan Towes what he thinks of all of DB's horrible mistakes that somehow exclude him in your mind as a captain. Or Cid Crosby, the super sharpshooter who has never scored on the Blues.
And the Kings? Remarkable, isn't it? All those Cups?
And their Captain is Dustin Brown.
Lemme guess, you'd rather have that moron as our captain.
There's about 3 players right now that I can think of who could be a good captain on this team. And DB is one of them. So get it thru your thick skull.......clear out the forkin cobwebs........he is NOT one of the many problems this Blues team has had trying to win in the playoffs.
Good grief.
Yes, I would take Brown or Toews as our Captain over Backes. THEY HAVE PROVEN THEY CAN WIN STANLEY CUPS!!
And you don't need to defend Backes like the two of you are having an affair. I've always said he is a great player, works his arse off and is tough as nails. I would want him on any team I had ... just not as a Captain. He's dumb as a bag of hammers and has no idea how to lead a team into battle. As the season intensifies and we get into the playoffs, he just turns his intensity up and doesn't have the smarts to do it intelligently. Just like the dumb penalty last night, he hasn't figured out to play with intensity and play smart. Love the dude but he's not a "C". Think Pete Rose...
The single biggest problem this team has right now is their inability to move the puck out of the defensive zone and through neutral zone efficiently and effectively. They miss Shattenkirk more that I thought they would. It is like two different teams.
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Yes, I would take Brown or Toews as our Captain over Backes. THEY HAVE PROVEN THEY CAN WIN STANLEY CUPS!!
That's my point. The Kings win even with Brown as their "leader". You over rate the captain thing ad nauseum.
If you want to take Brown over Backes say no more. (please dear god) It explains everything.
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Every team needs a Captain. My "C" is named Morgan!
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Blackbeard for Captain! You know they would play a ohysical brand of hockey!
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WHY IN THE FORKING HELL IS JAKE ALLEN IN GOAL TONIGHT???? THIS IS BULLCHIT!!!
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I'm gonna put that game on Hitch.
There was no reason to bench Ell's tonight.
And Allen had issues, but was absolutely horrible in that SO.
I heard some sh1t may have flied on the bench between Hitch and Ell's tonight.
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Allen's comments after the game won't sit well with a taskmaster like Hitch either:
"Allen said the brief respite hurt his game and affected his shootout performance. I've never experienced that before," Allen said. "Really weird, odd, felt a little uncomfortable, and, obviously, I am usually pretty good in shootouts. I was just sort of mentally out of it a bit."
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Let's see.
He never should have started Allen.
Then he pulls him.
Then he puts him back in....Disaterous SO.
And neither of the goalies understand wtf happened.
Sounds like another fabulous "March" to the playoffs strategy by our guy Hitch...........
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Let's see.
He never should have started Allen.
Then he pulls him.
Then he puts him back in....Disaterous SO.
And neither of the goalies understand wtf happened.
Sounds like another fabulous "March" to the playoffs strategy by our guy Hitch...........
I told you.....there is not one single person in that organization who can handle goalies. It's the dumbest forking thing I've ever seen.
Here's a clue......look what other successful teams do....decide who is your starter (in this case it's an absolute no brainer...IT'S THE GUY WHO IS IN THE TOP 10 IN THE LEAGUE IN GAA AND SAVE %) and play him. Period.
When he needs a break he will likely tell you. Here's another hint: IT SURE AS HELL AIN'T WHEN HE'S HAD BACK TO BACK GREAT GAMES!!!
Unbelievable.
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Griff what is your take on the trades today? On the surface simply looking =/-, you're trading a plus player in Cole for a negative player in Bortuzzo. Both are defensemen neither score or assist much?? Also added Zbynek Michalek another defenseman who is a negative player? Are these 'tough" guys to help the Blues be more physical?
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I don't know anything about Michalek.....but Bortuzzo is a pest...and a handful at 6'4" 215. I was impressed with him when we played the Penguins last week and I've seen him a few other times since NBC loves the Penguins so much....he can create some havoc and always has to be dealt with.
If I remember right, that game against the Pens was one of the games where Berglund got a lot of playing time on the 1 or 2 line. I think the Blues and Penguins had another trade in mind and the Blues were shopping Berglund hard....but couldn't make it work.
Bortuzzo is young and strong......and a mucker. He will play the same role as Cole but I think Bortuzzo is better at it from what I saw last week. (and he runs about double in penalty minutes vs. Cole....mostly for fighting)
I like it......Cole was a former 1st rounder who didn't really pan out as well as he should have.....buh-bye.
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I like the 2 defensive moves.
Both guys will ad strength and a level of nasty that this "transition defense" has realized it needs. Bortusso far more than Michalek. My guess is that Petro and Jaybo will be split up, looking for a better balance of quickness and strength.
But I'm going the other way, I think Michalek will be the better addition for the playoffs. IF the sob can get over his concussion. He has no offense, but He's a smart player, good on the pk, fairly tough and he's not afraid to block the shot, something that has been sorely missing from a few of our guys. We'll have to see how he fits in the transition game.
As for the minus 6? He plays on the yotes. If he is healthy, I'd look for a turnaround on that number.
All 3 trades are a tweak. Hope it works.
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Nashville is teetering after 4 straight losses. The door is open.
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So does that make the Blues next game a "statement game"? Just checking..
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Nope.....I don't put much stock in any of those terms. Hell, the Blues owned Chicago last season for most of the regular season, it mattered not one bit in the playoffs.....and never does.
What the Blues need to do is find a way to win the division......or else they've got Nashville or Chicago in the first round the way things are set up now. You've got to win the division to play a wild card team in the first round.......and like I said, the door is wide open for that to happen.
The reality is, 1 of the 3 teams (Blues, Hawks, Preds) are not getting out of the first round.....the best way to ensure that doesn't happen is to not have to play one of the other teams.
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Four points back but two games in hand on the Preds..
Four points up with a game in hand on the Hawks..
I predict it will take at least 112 points to win the division. If my math is right, the Blues will need to win at least a little over 60% of their remaining games to do that and they've done that so far this year.
What is crazy with the schedule is that they're done with the Preds during the regular season but play the Hawks twice in the last week of the season..
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Blues have 9 home games and 10 road games in reg season.
Preds have 9 home games and 8 road games left.
Hawks have 8 home games and 10 road games left.
No real big advantage regarding home versus road in anyone's schedule.
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Nope.....I don't put much stock in any of those terms. Hell, the Blues owned Chicago last season for most of the regular season, it mattered not one bit in the playoffs.....and never does.
What the Blues need to do is find a way to win the division......or else they've got Nashville or Chicago in the first round the way things are set up now. You've got to win the division to play a wild card team in the first round.......and like I said, the door is wide open for that to happen.
The reality is, 1 of the 3 teams (Blues, Hawks, Preds) are not getting out of the first round.....the best way to ensure that doesn't happen is to not have to play one of the other teams.
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Careful for what you wish.
Blues win the division and draw the Kings?? Right now, they are playing better than any of us.
I don't really care who we get, there's no telling NOW who will be best to draw THEN.
If I had to guess, with Kane out and Sharp's pr1ck poking team mates wives and GF's........that franchise is due for a fall. And I'd like nothing better than to deliver.
But it's the BLUES we all need to step up and be ready.
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" we all need to step up and be ready"....You going in at Goalie?? Sounds like you need one. Good luck.
The Tigers won last night.
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Careful for what you wish.
Blues win the division and draw the Kings?? Right now, they are playing better than any of us.
OK.....except.....no they're not.
Kings are 7-3 in last 10 and the Blues, playing poorly, are 6-3-1.
Next!!
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Careful for what you wish.
Blues win the division and draw the Kings?? Right now, they are playing better than any of us.
OK.....except.....no they're not.
Kings are 7-3 in last 10 and the Blues, playing poorly, are 6-3-1.
Next!!
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I guess can only guess Sprtsman helped you out with that math huh?
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Umm better make it 5-4-1 in the last ten after giving up 3 third period goals (albeit one an empty netter) to lose..
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With Nashville losing their 5th in a row all we did was kick the can down the road.
The Blues look out of sync on Defense. Bortuzzo is going to be a great addition, but he was tentative for sure.
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Great? Really? I think he will bring an aspect the Blues were lacking but "great"?
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The only great thing I saw him do was knock that Flyer on his azz after Jaskin took a nasty pop.
That's what he will bring most of all. And frankly, we need it.
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The only great thing I saw him do was knock that Flyer on his azz after Jaskin took a nasty pop.
That's what he will bring most of all. And frankly, we need it.
Exactly.....and for that reason he is a GREAT addition. This team lacks grit. He brings that. It's the biggest reason we get stomped in the playoffs. He is an obvious presence on the ice.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_BY67xkLuE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_BY67xkLuE
Fork him.....the only thing he was good at was eating eggs.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA dat ol' Luke..
I hope the new d-men are less prone to turnovers and also less prone to getting caught in too deep in the offensive zone. Both have been problems this year..
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Elliot looked inept in the 3rd.
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Elliot looked inept in the 3rd.
Stick to golf and nascar Gomer.
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Shaaazaam!
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Elliot was non-existent on that 3rd goal...
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I am a Coyotes fan tonight!
Nothing in the NHL can be taken for granted but I would not be at all surprised if the Note was in first place in the Central by the end of this week... 
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For some reason, Nashville has never concerned me as a legitimate threat in the playoffs (much like I'm sure the Blues don't concern Chicago). I see them as a good team but not built for the playoffs. They could prove me wrong but their current slide in the stretch run shows a certain lack of fortitude. Unfortunately, the Blues have a little of that and a lot to prove as well...
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I think Griffin is right (as much as I hate to ever admit that) and winning the division is important simply to miss having to face either Chicago or the Preds in the first round. Winning the Division obviously doesn't guarantee playoff success but it can help with determining early round opponents.
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By the way, watch out for the Minnesota Wild. I think they have been as hot as any team over the last six weeks or so as anyone. They might just catch the Hawks in the standings..
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I think Griffin is right (as much as I hate to ever admit that)
Then quit sending me PM's about how much you agree with me and how stupid Sptsman and Last Stand are. Geez.
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I think Griffin is right (as much as I hate to ever admit that)
Then quit sending me PM's about how much you agree with me and how stupid Sptsman and Last Stand are. Geez.
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Griff you really need to quit sampling what you confiscate...
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Griff you really need to quit sampling what you confiscate...
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It's a testimony to his character that he hadn't stuck his gun in his mouth yet..
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Laugh now you bastards.....but they're now legal to eat. When the bottom falls out of the economy and you all are near starving I'll have nearly 4000 lbs. of meat. And I'll need help with it since 3/5 of my family will leave me.
GO BLUE!!!
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The trend of giving up the first goal in games at home and giving up leads in the third is troublesome. Not as troublesome as owning a horse(s) mind you, but troublesome nonetheless.
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All that matters right now is the W. I see signs of their game coming together. They moved the puck out of their zone well last night.
Jackman's shot was worthy of the #5.......Bob Plager must be be proud. I remember him making a half court shot back in the day.
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You know it's a lucky night when both Ott and Jackman score!
Ott is still one goal ahead of Jackman having scored his THIRD GOAL of the season! I know, I know.. he does the "little" things to help the team win.. I mean C'mon! Ryan Reaves has scored six goals this year! 
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Even though Jackman's goal was unusual and highly unlikely, it may just provide the impetus the Note needs to reach their potential.
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Aha! Bubba is from the "It's better to be lucky than good" school!
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Even though Jackman's goal was unusual and highly unlikely, it may just provide the impetus the Note needs to reach their potential.
Can you even imagine last stand or Sptsman using the word impetus? This is exactly what this thread needs.....a hockey fan with a vocabulary!
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Even though Jackman's goal was unusual and highly unlikely, it may just provide the impetus the Note needs to reach their potential.
Can you even imagine last stand or Sptsman using the word impetus? This is exactly what this thread needs.....a hockey fan with a vocabulary!
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Must be a horse owner thing providing the impetus for a more literate hockey forum to reach the Sptsman/LS level of game analysis
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Who is calling me impetus? I'll have you know that I have three kids...
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Who is calling me impetus? I'll have you know that I have three kids...
Own any horses??
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I thought an impetus was that thing that went out on you in an outboard?
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Well, for you soccer haters that decry a 0-0 tie, all I can say is WTF!! Just like a good match on the pitch that ends in a 0-0 tie, that game last night was about as good as you are going to watch for one that had no goals. The Blues and Flyers were both solid. Both goalies were solid but Elliott was there when he needed to be in the shootout (Mason actually had to be a little better in the game). Let's hope that play in the nets continues...
I awoke to seeing 6 teams tied for 1st in the NHL, with 91 point each. Only the Rangers have played less games than the Blues. Another interesting and encouraging stat was the OT losses. All of the other 5 teams have 7 OT losses. The Blues only have 5.
I was disappointed they didn't give Jackman or Pietrangleo one of the three stars. That was one of the best efforts I've seen in while by the Blues Defense. Not just defending either. They were solid in transition.
Would love to see this type of solid hockey the rest of the way. Maybe with a few more goals...
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I go away for 5 days to come back to griffin boasting again about being right and posters congratulating Bubba for using a word he had to google for proper spelling and definition.
Please pass me that bong you're all pulling on.
And now I hear it's the end of the world if we don't win our division.
Good forkin grief.
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Well....the chatter should be in full force shortly.
Tuned in to watch the Blues for the first time this year and within 10 seconds the Wild scored....the announcers talked about what a good job Elliot did???
17 seconds later......Wild score again. Announcers did not say anything about what a good job Elliot did that time.
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I am a Coyotes fan tonight!
Nothing in the NHL can be taken for granted but I would not be at all surprised if the Note was in first place in the Central by the end of this week...
I know I don't have the amazing talent for prediction like Griffin, but I did get this one right..
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By the way, watch out for the Minnesota Wild. I think they have been as hot as any team over the last six weeks or so as anyone. They might just catch the Hawks in the standings..
And got this one too.. although the Note should have won that game..
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Right now, nothing matters but being ready to play in the playoffs. As they have learned over the past two years, there is no such thing as an easy opponent in the playoffs. Paying attention to the standings may be fun for a fan but it is meaningless with regard to success in the playoffs. They're in. It is just a matter of who they will play and that could be any team, considering the way they are stacked up at the top and bottom of the standings. If they don't toughen-up both mentally and physically, they will get steamrolled again.
This team has more talent than most Blues teams that have taken to the ice. But it is far from the toughest and most confident. They need some swagger and some attitude. Right now, I can see some team taking it to them physically and the Blues getting knocked-off their game.
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There is no easy opponent or some kind of preferred opponent that this team can try to shoot for RIGHT NOW.
Win the division and you could end up with a red hot wild card team, who the fork knows.
We are playing this March far better than that of 2014. Play to win in the post season. Period.
My 2 cents would be to get some serious rest for guys like jbo and jax and give some breather games to some other key guys as we come down the wire. Shatt's return can help out here.
Then, they are either ready or they are not. It's up to them.
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I thought it was Schwartz??? Griff said it so it must be true! Have you not been paying attention.. Gomer?
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I thought it was Schwartz??? Griff said it so it must be true! Have you not been paying attention.. Gomer?
It's absolutely Schwartz....he is the MVP of this team....there really can be no question about that.
Timmy - shouldn't you be commenting on minor league hockey at the cow palace or something?
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I was merely commenting on Gomer's reference to "Oshie being the key."
It may surprise you but hockey is quite popular in this cowtown. We actually get to see the great majority of the Note's games up here. And the local minor league team has averaged better than 5500 per game for the last 4 years. It's not great hockey by any stretch, but it is relatively inexpensive.
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Schwartz is the key!
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But Tarasenko has ludicrous speed!
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Ludicrous is the key!
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Another game having the lead going into the third and giving it up is ludicrous..
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Could be a tough one for the Note today. Early game (1 pm- WTF??) against the Wild at their place and who've been surging lately. The Preds while they have sucked lately host a really bad Buffalo team.
Is this a statement game?
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Not exactly a finishing kick...
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OK Whatever the All Star game has become is now over. Second season starts for the Note on Thursday versus the Preds. In reality less than 50% of the season remains. So time to put on your NHLstradamus hats:
Do the Blues win the Central?
Do the Blues end up with more than 105 points?
Does Tarasenko score 40 goals and/ or 80 points?
Does Scwartz score 30 goals and/ or 80 points?
Which of the two above is more likely?
Does Elliott end up with the best GAA in the league?
Discuss..
Remember this back in January? Well with nine games to go here's the way it stands:
1) Blues currently are in first in the Central - can they hold on? Not with the way they've played lately.
2) Blues are at 97 points so 105 is very do-able
3) Tarasenko has 35 goals and 70 points - it's possible he reaches 40 and/or 80 but I wouldn't consider either likely unless he gets on a roll.
4) Schwartz has 55 points and 24 goals. See comments about Tarasenko.
5) Elliott currently has the 6th best GAA. Very doubtful he'll climb all the way back to the top. He'd need to have 4 or 5 shutouts in the last 9 to have a chance.
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Let's pretend you have a theoretical team that is in 1st place in their division. Let's pretend your theoretical team is having a bit of trouble moving the puck out of their own zone and their power play is struggling a bit. It's not bad, but your theoretical team is kind of limping home with less than 10 games left in the season. And then, your theoretical GM makes a magical move and gets Shattenkirk in a deal and has to give up nothing in return. None of the other teams get a chance to upgrade at all. Would you feel good about your theoretical teams chances going into the playoffs?
Relax.
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So you have inside information that he's going to be back and at 100%? That's great!
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So you have inside information that he's going to be back and at 100%? That's great!
Schwartz is making him better. Schwartz makes everyone better...
BTW, he's skating and doing some hitting in practice. Look for him to be in the lineup the last 3 or 4 games. Maybe sooner of they're lucky.
Berglund is now not only not contributing, he's directly responsible for losing games... Two penalties in the offensive zone, in yesterday's game. The second was the powerplay that went into OT an lost them the game. He must have pictures of Armstrong and Hitchcock together, naked...
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BIG win!!!! Go Blue!!
And for those of you who want to lament the Blues play of late.......you're full of chit!!!
Only Dallas (16) and Minnesota (15) have more points than the Blues (14) in the Western Conference the last 10 games.
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So..Was that a statement game?
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I've watched 7 or 8 of those last 10 games and I am pretty sure Steen is the MVP of those games. That dude has turned it up a notch and could be the key to the playoffs... That 4th line is also going to be a factor. I don't think there are many 4th lines in the NHL that are as effective or get the kind of ice time they do. Not only do they bang hard, they occasionally score a goal and provide some rest for the top lines.
Now that I am obsessed with Berglund's poor play, I focus even more on him. I keep thinking one game he is going to turn it up a notch and prove me wrong. But game after game, he proves to be just as worthless as the game before. He is a talented centerman, making $3+ mil a year and he has 8 goals, 12 assists and is -6. As if that wasn't painful enough, his lazy, out-of-position play causes him to take the dumbest penalties at the most inopportune times... How would you like to be stuck on line with this slug?
Shattenkirk looks like he could be back as soon as Saturday. More than likely it will be later next week but that will be a huge boost. I like the Lindbohm kid and I think he will be a top tier defenseman for the Blues, in years to come. But it looks like he will be the odd man out when Shattenkirk returns. Lindbohm shows promise but he also shows his inexperience at times. He got knocked around a bit last night and has some rookie moments in every game. Overall he's pretty darn good but he's still very young, especially for a defenseman.
Of course goaltending is a complete mystery to me. I have no idea what they will do or what to expect. We'll just have to watch and hope for the best.
I like most of what I see right now but it all means nothing if they can't rise to the occasion when the playoffs start.
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Griffin will be along to tell us that goaltending is apparently a complete mystery to Blues management as well..
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Nice summary Andy......nothing to disagree with there except the goalie part. I'm not worried about the goalie situation AT ALL. We have a really good starting goalie and and good backup goalie that may one day be great.....but not quite ready for primetime yet. That's more than enough to get you through the playoffs. If the Blues blow up during the playoffs it won't be because of goaltending.
Nice to see Ott pick a fight right after the 2 fast goals last night......we haven't really seen that kind of grit from this team over the last few seasons. They look to be getting a bit more edgy now. I think Bortusso has halped with that.
3-1-2 on that fast road trip is promising at this point of the season when every team is playing for every point they can get.
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Steen is the key!
Hockey lemming.
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Bubba......ignore my brother. I just got off the phone with him. This is an exact transcript:
Me - Hey
foots - yeah (indiscriminate mumbling)
Me - HEY!!!
foots - Who is this?
Me - Who the fork you think it is?
foots - fork you
Me - I'll call you tomorrow
foots - I been drinking
Me - no chit
foots - I need to eat, what time is it?
Me - 8 o'clock
foots - fork it, I had ice for dinner
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Bwahahahahahahahaha...........and I'm having coffee for breakfast.
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Well, this one wasn't hard to see coming...
Lindbohm back to AHL
Might see Shattenkirk as early as Saturday. Let's hope he is 100%. If not, I have no problem waiting another week.
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Bubba......ignore my brother. I just got off the phone with him. This is an exact transcript:
Me - Hey
foots - yeah (indiscriminate mumbling)
Me - HEY!!!
foots - Who is this?
Me - Who the fork you think it is?
foots - fork you
Me - I'll call you tomorrow
foots - I been drinking
Me - no chit
foots - I need to eat, what time is it?
Me - 8 o'clock
foots - fork it, I had ice for dinner
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foots is the key.
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Bubba......ignore my brother. I just got off the phone with him. This is an exact transcript:
Me - Hey
foots - yeah (indiscriminate mumbling)
Me - HEY!!!
foots - Who is this?
Me - Who the fork you think it is?
foots - fork you
Me - I'll call you tomorrow
foots - I been drinking
Me - no chit
foots - I need to eat, what time is it?
Me - 8 o'clock
foots - fork it, I had ice for dinner
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foots is the key.
No dude.......foots HAS the key.
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8 games left.
Wanna see how the fourth line will shape up and who Hitch is going to go with for this line. I like Ott but Goc has brought a nice element to that line as well. Having a hard time cipherin that one.
In the playoff mode that fourth line can be a big help if they can manage a couple of solid minutes of ice against the other teams #1.
Oh yeah bubba.........car #41, 67, 25 or even maybe possibly #33 might win this Saturday.
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Goc is the key.
Car 88.
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My eyes ain't what they once were.. and for a second there I thought Bubba had gone all religious on us..
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Brian Elliott's record over the past 15 games is 8-7.
His save percentage is a horrid .872 over that same period.
Playoffs begin in 7 games.
That is all.
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Brian Elliott's record over the past 15 games is 8-7.
His save percentage is a horrid .872 over that same period.
Playoffs begin in 7 games.
That is all.
You can't help yourself can you. The fact is, the Blues are one of the best teams in hockey, with one of the lowest GAA totals. This was all on Elliott's watch.....yet you still feel the need to create a goalie controversy as the playoffs get close. You forkers are a dime a dozen.
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A goalie controversy? I am posting a stat about him over the past 14 starts. I am talking about a TREND just before the playoffs.
GAA is a great team stat. SP is a great goalie stat.
Don't give me this controversy crap. Elliott can't go into the real season on his current trend of play. Even you can see that.
Hell his GAA last 14 games is unsustainable as well. I'll bet it's over 3.00.
I doubt Allen is up for this kind of pressure. Hitch needs to stay the course with his more experienced goalie, but alls I'm sayin is Elliott can't go into post season with his current level of play. He has to play better. And you know it so just get it over with and admit it.
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I agree , Elliot's performance lately is alarming but unfortunately he is a better goalie that Allen . At this juncture our goalie predicament is tantamount to spotting our opponent a half stroke before the game begins.
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A goalie controversy? I am posting a stat about him over the past 14 starts. I am talking about a TREND just before the playoffs.
GAA is a great team stat. SP is a great goalie stat.
Don't give me this controversy crap. Elliott can't go into the real season on his current trend of play. Even you can see that.
Hell his GAA last 14 games is unsustainable as well. I'll bet it's over 3.00.
I doubt Allen is up for this kind of pressure. Hitch needs to stay the course with his more experienced goalie, but alls I'm sayin is Elliott can't go into post season with his current level of play. He has to play better. And you know it so just get it over with and admit it.
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Dude....knock it off. He has one really bad game where he gave up 5 before being pulled. He also had nearly 120 minutes of shutout hockey during your supposedly bad streak.
Elliott is fine.
Steen being hurt, on the other hand, could be a nightmare.
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Word is Steen is day to day. If true, very good news, he was playing his best of the year here lately.
As for Elliott, he's no different than the rest of this group. It ain't the playoffs yet, but once started, "fine" isn't going to buy them chit. Once started,.....ALL OF THEM...... need to be who they say they are.
I like this team, think they have a legit shot to make a run. But I've seen this movie 3 times before and it's time for a new ending.
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Common ground.... it IS time for this team. I think this team can match up against anyone in a series. With 4 viable lines and 3 legit defensive pairings this team can adjust better than any the Blues have ever put on the ice. A series against the same team actual favors them in my opinion.
I will have at least one set of tickets for every round they make. Man, I'd LOVE to see the Note in a Stanley Cup final again!
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Sorry Griffin, you can call me a "Doubting Thomas" but this team seems to be the latest version of what I've seen in seasons before. I do not think they are playing even close to their best hockey of the season. They seem to me to be wobbling toward the finish while other teams in the West are ramping it up. Do they have the talent? Absolutely! But talent isn't the only thing you need to grind through the playoffs. I sincerely hope I am wrong, and would love to seem them make it to (and win!) the Cup but I don't see it happening. They still are careless and cute with the puck too often and they still give up an inordinate amount of odd man rushes.
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Umm Griffy misgivings are growing stronger after that mess...
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They looked HORRIBLE.....geez.
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Melrose said on Sportscenter that the Blues gave up as many odd man rushes last night as he usually sees them give up in a weeks worth of games.
Sure looks to me that they are stumbling and bumbling toward the finish. Unfortunately it is starting more and more to remind me of last year when they closed at 3 -7 over their last 10..
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The last 3 post seasons this team has basically tightened up down the stretch and become a bunch of individuals.
Season 4 seems familiar.
Mediocre goal tending.
We can't score in the first period.
When we do score, we get doubled down by the other team almost immediately.
The odd man rushes are a sure sign of dumb individual and selfish or straight up lazy play.
I mean everybody floated last night. Well, aside Reaves and Ott.
If they don't get back to a team game and get their hands dirty it's over. There's still time to turn it around. I'd make the changes and play guys MORE who know there role and if nothing else work hard at it like Porter, Bortuzzo, Ott, new guy Michalek, Reaves. AND SIT SOME PEOPLE. It may not be enough by itself but Hitchcock needs to change his way of business if he wants to change this teams mindset in the next 2 weeks.
I've said all season I ain't falling hard for this team again. It's there for them if they want it, but these knuckleheads have to first get past themselves and their own damn demons.
If Senko is not out more than a few games and Steener gets back on the ice I still like their chances. Stop the shots, put up some W's and end the forkin nonsense that's going on out there lately.
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I got news for Oshie and who ever else wants to change horses in the middle of the stream and win another way.
It's too friggen late.
Like it or not, play the system you got and win. It's their only chance.
http://www.foxsports.com/midwest/story/s...n-builds-033115
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Y'all gone need some family counseling soon...
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I got news for Oshie and who ever else wants to change horses in the middle of the stream and win another way.
It's too friggen late.
Like it or not, play the system you got and win. It's their only chance.
http://www.foxsports.com/midwest/story/s...n-builds-033115
Funny.....I talked to someone today who should be "in the know".......he says Oshie is a problem on the team and is constantly at odds with Hitchcock and vocal about it.
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Are you sure its not Hitchcock? His Blues playoff record is 8 - 13. In his last 12 seasons as an NHL coach his playoff record is 27 - 35.. Just sayin'..
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Hitchcock's name is on the Stanley Cup. Just saying.
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Once - in 1999 - sixteen years ago. One Stanley Cup in 19 years of coaching in the NHL. Obviously he's a genius then. So going by that idea it means that he gets to use that one Stanley Cup for the rest of his coaching career no matter what has happened? So I guess that offsets the 6 seasons that his teams didn't even make the playoffs? Or the five times that his teams did make it to the playoffs only to lose in the first round - including the last two seasons here? How about that fact that in the last nine years of coaching that his teams have made it out of the first round ONCE? Oh yeah that's OK too because his name is on the Stanley Cup.
It's all the players fault. I see that now. Got It! Thanks for the clarification!
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BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!
Dude.....really? We're going to put Hitchcock's record up against the players on the Blues and just call it Hitchcock's fault if they don't do well?
Here....you need to read up.
http://blues.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=74828
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BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!
Dude.....really? If they don't make it out of the first round you're going to say it's all the players fault, Hitchcock isn't responsible, considering what HIS record with other teams and other players has been LATELY.
I am not saying if they fail (and not getting deeper in the playoffs is a failure) is solely his fault and that the players aren't culpable as well. But just because the guy once coached a team that one the Cup a long time ago doesn't make it all the players fault either.. If that's the case then you shouldn't have criticized Keenan while he was here because he had coached a team to the Cup too..
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BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!
Dude.....really? If they don't make it out of the first round you're going to say it's all the players fault, Hitchcock isn't responsible, considering what HIS record with other teams and other players has been LATELY.
I am not saying if they fail (and not getting deeper in the playoffs is a failure) is solely his fault and that the players aren't culpable as well. But just because the guy once coached a team that one the Cup a long time ago doesn't make it all the players fault either.. If that's the case then you shouldn't have criticized Keenan while he was here because he had coached a team to the Cup too..
Have you actually looked at Hitchcock's coaching resume? You think my point was just about his cup win (well, in fairness, he does have 1 more than just about any current member of the Blues....but I digress).
Hitchcock's system is solid and proven. For chrissakes, his overall NHL record over 16 seasons would have his teams averaging 100 points per season.
Look, I don't know how close you follow hockey.....but this wouldn't be the first group of players that clashed with Hitchcock. He wants things done his way.
If the players buy into his system and lose then hell yeah, blame the coach. BUT....if they don't buy into it and fight it, you can't blame the guy with the 7th most coaching wins in the history of the NHL. It just doesn't work that way.
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Griff,
Obviously I am not the savant you are in regards to hockey but yes I do pay attention.
I'm sorry but I thought we were talking about winning in the playoffs. You know the thing the Blues haven't been able to do for so long? My bad! You're right. Hitchcock has been behind the bench for a lot of regular season wins. His winning % during the regular season is around .600 which is pretty impressive.
But his winning % in the playoffs is closer to .520. That's a pretty big difference in my opinion. And if you take away the TWO seasons in Dallas where they won the Cup one year and the conference the other in back to back years and where he went 30 - 16 in the playoffs - well then his playoff record is 44 - 52 or .458.
Silly me! I was thinking Blues fans were looking for some playoff success. But if you really want a team that does really well in the regular season and fizzles in the playoffs it does appear he's your man!
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I don't know if it was the level of competition but that was the best I think they've looked in three weeks.
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I have my own complaints about Hitchcock but this deal where the monkeys get to run the zoo is not viable.
The "core", or some semblance of that group, ran Murray and Payne out of here with their whining. My guess is Oshie just found out Hitch is fully aware of how to counter play that game too.
The team is supposedly built by Hitchcock and his GOOD FRIEND Doug Armstrong to run this puck possession system. It's physically demanding and it has to be "on" 100% of the time to get the right result against bigger teams and more skilled teams.
You gotta be something in this league to win. This is what we are. I haven't a frigging clue what "information overload" means but Oshie & Co want to know what a round 2 looks like they need to drop it and go play the team game this system demands.
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WOW! Talk about right down to the wire in the Central! The Blues, Preds and Hawks have all played 78 games and have four left. After last night the Blues and Preds each have 103 points and the Hawks have 102. Here are their schedules:
Blues: at Chi, H to Winni, H to Chi, H to MN
Preds: H to Dal, at CO, H to MN, at Dal
Hawks: H to Blues, H to MN, at Blues, at CO
So who wins the Central? Really hard to even guess. Back in Janaury I predicted the Blues were and I'm sticking to it!
Speaking of those predictions:
It looks like the Blues will end with more than 105 points.
It does not look like Tarasenko will score 40 goals or have 80 points.
It does not look like Schwartz will score 30 goals or have 80 points.
Elliot will not have the best GAA in the NHL as he stands at 8th in the league. BTW his save % has slipped to .916 which doesn't even put him in the Top 10.
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BTW what the hell was that last night??? The two teams combined to score 4 goals in 49 seconds? WTF?
Weird game but a good comeback by the Note to get the two points.
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BTW Cool and kind of sad at the same time - I saw this article this morning about Schwartz and last nights game:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/blue...eath/ar-AAaqg4k
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He is all business on the ice.
Pound for pound perhaps the most valuable player we have seen in the note's colors. Certainly in many moons. I am concerned if he can take the punishment year after year.
I'm not worked up about finishing in first place. We won't know the best place to end up until we win round two. It's really not about who we play, it's about HOW we play.
And home ice? Have you noticed that stat lately?
Allen in goal for Sundays game in Chi Town. Hitch is walking the line here. If I have a biatch about Hitch, it's his goalie management. Not sure what he's now doing, but imo he needs to get Ell's right to start the playoffs.
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Hitchcock has been behind the bench for a lot of regular season wins. His winning % during the regular season is around .600 which is pretty impressive.
But his winning % in the playoffs is closer to .520. That's a pretty big difference in my opinion. And if you take away the TWO seasons in Dallas where they won the Cup one year and the conference the other in back to back years and where he went 30 - 16 in the playoffs - well then his playoff record is 44 - 52 or .458.
But you can't take away the 2 seasons in Dallas because they are part of his body of work. Did you take away his two worst seasons and see how it looks? This reminds me of the fans that tell me a losing pitcher was great. They say things like, "If you take away the two homeruns, he pitched a great game and would have gotten the win..." When evaluating a player, coach, GM or whatever, you have to take the whole body of work. You would find darn few knowledgeable hockey people that would argue that Hitchcock is anything other than a darn fine Head Coach.
No coach as ever won a Super Bowl, World Series, Stanley Cup or any championship without some of his hometown fans thinking he is a complete idiot... Heck, LaRussa was called a moron by half of the fan base in STL.
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Wow winning a Cup then is like winning the lottery. Do it once (like 16 years ago) and it certifies you as a genius forever. Great gig if you can get one.
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That looked like playoff hockey!
Griff can we call that a statement game?
Hitch rolled the dice on Allen and it came out really well.
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It's a statement we are back on track. It's a reminder for this team how good they can play when they stay together and play a physical team game.
I still want Elliott in goal for game one of the playoffs but he has to step up and get 2 more SOLID games in this regular season if he wants that role. He did not look good in Dallas. I would think it will be Elliott for the Jets and Allen back in net for Chicago then Elliott for the final game.
Allen's playing very well. That really was a great all round game for him and the team. Elliott not so much, his mates could help him out more too, but it's his job to lose if he can't batten down the hatch here on in.
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Wow winning a Cup then is like winning the lottery. Do it once (like 16 years ago) and it certifies you as a genius forever. Great gig if you can get one.
Not necessarily but it goes a long way towards credibility. When you include it with a body of work that is impressive and you gain the respect of your peers and the "experts" that analyze your sport, it is icing on the cake.
I see only two ways this team falls short in the playoffs. Goaltending is #1 and effort is #2. If one of these two netminders can't step up and deliver solid performances, maybe even steal a game or two, they're doomed. If the five players in front of the goaltender can't play with 100% intensity on every shift, they're doomed. Not sure what Berglund ate before the last 3 or 4 games but I hope he has a good supply of it. His play has stepped up about 200% in the last few games. Maybe he's figured out that you have to give some effort to get results...
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Sptsman,
Griff was essentially laying all of the blame for late season swoon on the players. I felt that maybe Hitchcock should shoulder some of the blame. Everyone is saying this is a "make it or break it" year for the Note and they have to go deep in the playoffs. I was pointing out that while Hitchcock has had a lot of regular season success but his teams have not had as good of success in the playoffs. That 1999 Stars team had (among others) Belfour between the pipes and had Hull, Modano, Niewendyk and Lehtinen. I was pointing out that he had a lot of his playoff success with one team in two seasons. And it happened a long time ago. The game has changed (rules, penalties, etc.) and for good or bad the typical NHL player has changed. Great coaches adapt to change. I am not sure that that Hitchcock has done that. That being said, I sincerely hope I'm wrong and this team hoists the Cup.
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I see your point and understand your perspective. But I would argue that what it takes to win in the playoffs has changed very little in the past 40+ years I have followed the NHL. Sure, some rules have changed and there have been some minor changes to the way the game is played as a result. But the overall concept of playing hard-checking, vertical, puck-possession game hasn't changed that much. Hitchcock preaches and teaches a very NHL, playoff style of play. The trouble is the some of the modern players think they can play like the wide open college or international style of play, in the NHL playoffs and they can't. Perhaps that's why Berglund struggles and why some of the more free-flowing type of players go into a funk at times, playing under him.
I can tell you this with relative certainty. If every player on that team bought in to his system and played every shift with 100% effort, this team would breeze to the Cup. Armstrong has assembled a fantastic group of players and they have all the talent and size they need. I think the issue is some players think they can freelance and play "their style" when it suits them. When that happens you put yourself and/or your teammates out of position and create turnovers and odd-man rushes against your team.
I will argue that Hitchcock is the right man for the job. There is a time when players need to be accountable and that time for the Blues is now...
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Speaking of that.. did you see the look on Hithcocks face when Oshie missed the empty net and the icing gave the hawks the faceoff in the Blues zone? Classic! And Oshie wouldn't even look at him! LOL
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That's because Oshie is likely an asshole who is constantly butting heads with Hitchcock. I don't like Oshie, and the Blues would be better without him.
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Free Oshie!
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Oshie is the key.
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Wow! What a game! Blues win the Central!!
Allen is hot! Do you ride him into the playoffs? Griff will probably say that I'm a knucklehead when it come to knowing hockey.. But I would!
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Allen is hot! Do you ride him into the playoffs?
I think you have to.
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Those boys were on the puck tonight.
No way Hitch splits up the SOS line when Senko and Steen come back.
Nice problem to have.
The stars are aligned. Time for this team to play some great post season hockey.
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In Allen's last five games the Blues have gone 4 - 1 and he has had a GAA of 1.20 and a save % of .9632. I'd ride that horse...
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If Timmy is on the bandwagon they are doomed. Happens to every team when he jumps on board. B-lose need to get healthy or they will be golfing in 2 weeks.
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Well it's hard to believe but sposedly Hitch is actually holding a player or two back for the playoffs.
And lemme tell ya, that's one old dog who just learned a new trick.
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I know there are still about 47 different possibilities of who the Blues may end up playing in the first round depending on the the next game for each team. Right now most likely is starting with the Wild. I can't believe I'm even saying this but I'd almost rather play the Hawks. The hawks haven't been good lately and the Wild have played really well against the Note especially lately.
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Lots of that is Dubnyk.
He/They are 4th in GAA and he is 2nd in SP.
Team is 1st in pk.
Light and fast. We would need to pummel them carefully as we play our game.
Doesn't matter who we play imo. It's up to the Blues to win.
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It is PLAYOFF TIME...
Now we site back and enjoy the road to the Cup. All the questions will be answered in the next few weeks:
Who will be in goal and will they be Cup worthy?
Will they overcome Backes as Captain?
(side question: How many dogs & cats will be rescued during the playoffs?)
Will Berglund be an asset or liability in the playoffs?
Does Hitchcock have a plan and will he have set lines?
Will Bubba be glued to the tube for every minute of every game?
All these questions...
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We are playing well.
We are healthy.
We are a good team.
We are deep.
IMO, we are as good or better as any other team.
It's up to the Blues to win. I don't see an excuse on the board to not make conference finals.
Thursday nite likely on radio for me. Go Blue!!
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Bubba, will you be hosting a live chat during the game or providing some commentary after?
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Hitch going with Allen but not exactly making that sound like a concrete decision.
http://espn.go.com/nhl/preview?gameId=400790482
Multiple home teams lost their series opener last night. The Note better come out fired up and ready to go. It was a real problem for a while there. Go Blue!
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I just hope they win. I gave up hoping they come out fired up last year. This team has to be the worst 1st period team in the playoffs. Have no idea why that is but they had a few runs of multiple games in a row with no 1st period goals. I think one of them got up to 10 or 11 games.
I would like to think that is one of the things you look to your Captain for. Maybe help fire the boys up or inspire them to give some effort before the 2nd period starts???
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Your Captain is key.
There is something to be said for that, Bubba, and Andy may indeed have a point.
The simple fact is, David Backes did not show up for game 1. It is fair to say that he was not the only one.....but he is the only one with a "C" on his sweater.
I was there......he was pathetic. He should not be the team Captain.
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I am not near the astute analyst as bubba is, but you are not going to compete in many games when you have a 2:00 power play and get 1 shot on goal and then another 2:00 power play and get 2 shots on goal.
Shooting the puck is key!
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it was like watching the movie "Hoosiers"..
5 passes before we shoot! Got it??
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But hey they won't lose tonight!
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When do the playoffs start?
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Apparently the Note thinks it's tomorrow
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When do the playoffs start?
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They all showed up for most of it.
Jake Allen .......if he didn't steal it it was dang close.
And how bout that Backes games changing save? And a hell of a game. Reed Lowe afterwards said he was one of the best Captains in the league. bwaaaaaaaaaaaa..............but I'll digress to our resident goofballs calling for his head.
Senko showing to be the money player he is.
It's going to go all 7 I guess. Who really knows when it comes to this heartbreaking team.
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I love Steve Ott.....and I hate every other bastard on this team.
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Once when my old man (he was the local bookie) had to payout for Texas beating OU in football, he was asked why Texas won.
The old man replied
"Their ninjas wanted to win more than our ninjas"
I think that pretty well sums up the Wild vs Blues in this series
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The sky is falling.. again
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At least to Foots it is..
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How the other side sees it
http://www.startribune.com/sports/wild/300749891.html
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I love Steve Ott.....and I hate every other bastard on this team.
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Seriously? Are you trolling? Because if you're serious.. Dude you need to quit using what you're confiscating! I think Steve Durbano had more offensive skills than that putz. Ott played in 78 games this season and had 12 whole points. Wow! He was a -8. But that was better than last year after he came over in the trade and played in 23 games and had THREE whole points and was a -12. He's a minus player in the playoffs.. again. I'm not sure what he was doing on the breakaway but I think the idea of actually scoring freaked him out. I think other teams for the most part just laugh at his stupid azz.
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I have watched damn near every game of this year's playoffs so far. Without a doubt the Blues/Wild series is the most boring, lifeless series going at this time.
Without Steve Ott there would be NOTHING about this series to watch.
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Turn out the lights...That was a pathetic display last night.
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Scott are you still thinking that this is all on the players? That Hitchcock is not culpable at all?
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I seriously think these guys do not know how to play smart and tough, with high intensity. They can play smart at times. They play with high intensity at times. They can act and even behave like their tough at times. But they don't seem to have a clue how to play all three at the same time. Backes plays as hard as anyone most of the time. But he doesn't have clue how to play smart with that intensity. He flies around like a human pinball and wants to get into scrums every other play. That's dumb. When he plays like that, he's useless. And it isn't just him. Most of the team plays that way (using Backes as an example because he is the Captain and because I know last stand will have a cow when he sees his beloved hero being criticized). I've never seen a defense play so loose and sloppy in the playoffs. They back off the blueline and give waaaaay to much space up when defending. The offense is slow and lazy coming back to support and the forecheck is all but nonexistent. This is not what got them to the playoffs and it damn sure isn't going to get them to advance...
There is still a good chance to win this series but it will take some serious changes in the way they are playing. I am hopeful but not sure if I am optimistic.
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Scott are you still thinking that this is all on the players? That Hitchcock is not culpable at all?
Hitchcock was out-coached in Game 1 and that was certainly part of the many problems, in that game. He was not the problem last night. That was 100% on the players.
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I guess we will find out tonight if this team has ANY heart. Part of me is very skeptical. The core of this team has been together now for while. They are 9 - 15 in their last 4 playoff series. I firmly believe with this team that it is not a talent issue but a "heart and will" issue. For whatever reason I don't think Hitchcock gets to them. I don't think his personality is one of being a motivator.
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Yeah Tim.....it's the coach.
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He just coached a lot better last night. He taught Reaves how to score on 50 foot slap shots! One game played like that is nice and I hope that is a sign of things to come.. but color me doubtful..
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Sportsmn, as I said to you earlier, there's about 3 guys that could have been Captain of this team this year imo. Backes is one of them, he's the forkin Captain of this team, and he is also NOT the forkin problem. I know you just got griffin to hop on the back of the turnip truck to join you in your never ending obsession, but give it the fork up. It has zero to do with anything you are trying to say it does.
IIFID, I'm not crazy about everything Hitch does but this broken record schitzoid thingy dates back before Hitch. And Payne. To Murray.
I'm takin a wild hunch. This off season, no matter the playoff result, it's either going to be Hitch or Oshie that comes back, not both.
I know who I pick.
It's the Blues that have won the 2 games they had to. Time to win one just to win. Time to take 2 of 3 the right way.
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I'm takin a wild hunch. This off season, no matter the playoff result, it's either going to be Hitch or Oshie that comes back, not both.
For all of the dumb crap you post.....THAT is not a wild hunch....it's a certainty.
My hunch is that a decision won't really have to be made....this is Hitchcock's last year behind the bench, any bench, no matter the outcome of the playoffs.
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What has he said or done to indicate that Griff? I'm on the westside so we don't hear all that much about the Note but I hadn't heard anything about this being his last year?
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I probably wont get to see tonight's game. But I'll listen to some or all of it on the radio. Guessing it will be much closer to the 2-1 or 3-2 scores we normally see in playoffs.
Good to see them rebound and play like they're capable. Another effort like that and they'll break the spirit of Minnesota and roll to a 6 game series win. If they revert back and let Minn get on top again, who knows?
I tend to think winning cures everything. The Hitch/Oshie rift will be a distant memory, if they are hoisting a Cup.
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This team has the talent and is capable of a very deep run - when they play the right way - intense, physical, cutting down on turnovers and not trying to be too cute.
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What has he said or done to indicate that Griff? I'm on the westside so we don't hear all that much about the Note but I hadn't heard anything about this being his last year?
In an interview a few months ago he said that he was going to throw it in du8ring the first part of this year, but that he wanted to see it through and went on about how much the team's good play rejuvenated him. I don't think he has another year in him.
He's 64 this year.....I bet he's done no matter what happens.
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Where is Lost Stand?
He is 3 days into drafting a policy manual for the boat building forum
Bwahahahahahahaha..........
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Is that the Fat Lady I hear warming up?
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It is Willy singing
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The St. Louis Cubs err Blues ending yet another playoff season... Sssiiiggghhh
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~~sigh*``
You might have to get Wu to check, but there isn't anywhere better to watch The Notes go down to The Wild than the Embassy Suites in Bridgeton, Mo @ St. Louis, Lambert Airport. At least you can drink for 2 hours straight for free, after visiting with your niece and her kids for the weekend.
Must go home tomorrow.....where no one know anything about hockey..... lol
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~~sigh*``
You might have to get Wu to check, but there isn't anywhere better to watch The Notes go down to The Wild than the Embassy Suites in Bridgeton, Mo @ St. Louis, Lambert Airport. At least you can drink for 2 hours straight for free, after visiting with your niece and her kids for the weekend.
Must go home tomorrow.....where no one know anything about hockey..... lol
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There is a new core for the future of this team.
I count 5 players that belong to it. And 3 of them play on the fourth line.
Doug, please blow the rest of this team up. And blow them sky high.
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There is a new core for the future of this team.
I count 5 players that belong to it. And 3 of them play on the fourth line.
Doug, please blow the rest of this team up. And blow them sky high.
And I thought Flubs fans were optimists!
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Changes need to be made. Changes will be made. To have this much talent and not be able to advance past the first round is unacceptable...
Quite honestly, the only thing I really feel bad about is the owner's situation. Tom Stillman bought this team (with some help but a huge investment for him) and NEEDED the Blues to go past the first round to be profitable. He has opened the pocketbook when necessary and has a true passion for the game and love of the Blues. He is what the Blues have needed in an owner for a loooong time. I hope he can afford to stick with it...
It was pretty impressive to watch Minnesota play with such discipline and organization. They had a game plan and executed it flawlessly. Other than Game 4, that was a playoff ready team. I can see them beating another team in a 7 game series, if they keep playing like that. In contrast, the Blues spent most of the series chasing the Wild around like it was the B-team chasing around the Varsity team. They looked disorganized and scattered much of the time. You could see absence of a cohesive team supporting the puck offensively and defending as a five-man unit. They were just simply outplayed by a group of less talented players that wanted it more and were willing to play together, as a team, to win...
As for the rest of these worthless forks, get rid of the whole stinkin' lot of them, with the exception of Shattenkirk and Tarasenko. I would have said Schwartz too but he was a big disappointment in the playoffs as well. Of course that isn't going to happen, so we'll just have to sit back and see what Armstrong and Stillman decide. My best guess is Hitchcock retires and they have a new HC.
Sorry last stand, Backes just doesn't get it. Whether it is his low IQ or just something in him, he just doesn't get it. But on the bright side, he now has a bunch of extra time to scour the alleys of St. Louis for stray animals to rescue. He may have great skills and the potential to be a great player but his leadership skills and ability to come up big when needed most are non-existent. A "Captain" has to take some responsibility for rallying the troops, for picking them up after some adversity, for leading... Let's hope a new look for the Blues includes a new Captain and a new role for Backes... And let's be clear, Backes is not the reason the Blues are starting their summer vacation today. But to think it isn't a part of the problem is to have blinders on and refuse to recognize a pretty significant issue.
This is from Sports Illustrated: "And then there's the captain. David Backes has scored five goals in 28 playoff games, and just one in his past 10. Everything about him and his game screams postseason warrior and yet he was all but invisible in this series, going 1-1-2 while registering 10 shots in six games. The Blues have won just 10 playoff games while he's been in the lineup. Is he really the player that a team can be built around up front?"
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I stand by what I said earlier that while the players are culpable for this cluster too, a lot of this debacle (and the last couple playoff series) can, and should, be laid at Hitchcock's feet. Yep he has won an assload of regular season games. And yep a long time ago he coached a Stanley Cup winner. But look at his PLAYOFF resume since he left Dallas. I hope he does retire because we will continue to have no hope of getting anywhere with him coaching this group of players.
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Changes need to be made. Changes will be made. To have this much talent and not be able to advance past the first round is unacceptable...
Quite honestly, the only thing I really feel bad about is the owner's situation. Tom Stillman bought this team (with some help but a huge investment for him) and NEEDED the Blues to go past the first round to be profitable. He has opened the pocketbook when necessary and has a true passion for the game and love of the Blues. He is what the Blues have needed in an owner for a loooong time. I hope he can afford to stick with it...
It was pretty impressive to watch Minnesota play with such discipline and organization. They had a game plan and executed it flawlessly. Other than Game 4, that was a playoff ready team. I can see them beating another team in a 7 game series, if they keep playing like that. In contrast, the Blues spent most of the series chasing the Wild around like it was the B-team chasing around the Varsity team. They looked disorganized and scattered much of the time. You could see absence of a cohesive team supporting the puck offensively and defending as a five-man unit. They were just simply outplayed by a group of less talented players that wanted it more and were willing to play together, as a team, to win...
As for the rest of these worthless forks, get rid of the whole stinkin' lot of them, with the exception of Shattenkirk and Tarasenko. I would have said Schwartz too but he was a big disappointment in the playoffs as well. Of course that isn't going to happen, so we'll just have to sit back and see what Armstrong and Stillman decide. My best guess is Hitchcock retires and they have a new HC.
Sorry last stand, Backes just doesn't get it. Whether it is his low IQ or just something in him, he just doesn't get it. But on the bright side, he now has a bunch of extra time to scour the alleys of St. Louis for stray animals to rescue. He may have great skills and the potential to be a great player but his leadership skills and ability to come up big when needed most are non-existent. A "Captain" has to take some responsibility for rallying the troops, for picking them up after some adversity, for leading... Let's hope a new look for the Blues includes a new Captain and a new role for Backes... And let's be clear, Backes is not the reason the Blues are starting their summer vacation today. But to think it isn't a part of the problem is to have blinders on and refuse to recognize a pretty significant issue.
This is from Sports Illustrated: "And then there's the captain. David Backes has scored five goals in 28 playoff games, and just one in his past 10. Everything about him and his game screams postseason warrior and yet he was all but invisible in this series, going 1-1-2 while registering 10 shots in six games. The Blues have won just 10 playoff games while he's been in the lineup. Is he really the player that a team can be built around up front?"
Go Cards!!
I am now ready for a new Captain.
And you can ship Tennille out too.
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This is all a lot more entertaining if you go back and start from the first post 6 months ago..
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Changes need to be made. Changes will be made. To have this much talent and not be able to advance past the first round is unacceptable...
Quite honestly, the only thing I really feel bad about is the owner's situation. Tom Stillman bought this team (with some help but a huge investment for him) and NEEDED the Blues to go past the first round to be profitable. He has opened the pocketbook when necessary and has a true passion for the game and love of the Blues. He is what the Blues have needed in an owner for a loooong time. I hope he can afford to stick with it...
It was pretty impressive to watch Minnesota play with such discipline and organization. They had a game plan and executed it flawlessly. Other than Game 4, that was a playoff ready team. I can see them beating another team in a 7 game series, if they keep playing like that. In contrast, the Blues spent most of the series chasing the Wild around like it was the B-team chasing around the Varsity team. They looked disorganized and scattered much of the time. You could see absence of a cohesive team supporting the puck offensively and defending as a five-man unit. They were just simply outplayed by a group of less talented players that wanted it more and were willing to play together, as a team, to win...
As for the rest of these worthless forks, get rid of the whole stinkin' lot of them, with the exception of Shattenkirk and Tarasenko. I would have said Schwartz too but he was a big disappointment in the playoffs as well. Of course that isn't going to happen, so we'll just have to sit back and see what Armstrong and Stillman decide. My best guess is Hitchcock retires and they have a new HC.
Sorry last stand, Backes just doesn't get it. Whether it is his low IQ or just something in him, he just doesn't get it. But on the bright side, he now has a bunch of extra time to scour the alleys of St. Louis for stray animals to rescue. He may have great skills and the potential to be a great player but his leadership skills and ability to come up big when needed most are non-existent. A "Captain" has to take some responsibility for rallying the troops, for picking them up after some adversity, for leading... Let's hope a new look for the Blues includes a new Captain and a new role for Backes... And let's be clear, Backes is not the reason the Blues are starting their summer vacation today. But to think it isn't a part of the problem is to have blinders on and refuse to recognize a pretty significant issue.
This is from Sports Illustrated: "And then there's the captain. David Backes has scored five goals in 28 playoff games, and just one in his past 10. Everything about him and his game screams postseason warrior and yet he was all but invisible in this series, going 1-1-2 while registering 10 shots in six games. The Blues have won just 10 playoff games while he's been in the lineup. Is he really the player that a team can be built around up front?"
Go Cards!!
I am now ready for a new Captain.
And you can ship Tennille out too.
Is that Oshie?
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Can ANYONE tell me why Bortuzzo was a 6 game scratch? Unreal. He was brought here to add some physical play and stand up opponents at the blue line.....which he did well. WTF????????
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Can ANYONE tell me why Bortuzzo was a 6 game scratch? Unreal. He was brought here to add some physical play and stand up opponents at the blue line.....which he did well. WTF????????
Ask your Stanley Cup winning coach.
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Can ANYONE tell me why Bortuzzo was a 6 game scratch? Unreal. He was brought here to add some physical play and stand up opponents at the blue line.....which he did well. WTF????????
I hope he had one the mystery injuries that NHL teams try to hide... If that was the case and he was only available in an emergency, so be it. Otherwise it is confusing...
That being said, I don't think the defense was as much of a problem as the offense. I didn't like the way they gave up the blueline and they occasionally looked disorganized. But overall, the defense was not at culpable as the offense. And when I say offense, I mean the forwards coming into the defensive zone to support the defense, the transition play and their play in the offensive zone. The forwards were pathetic overall.
This series loss just goes to show that it takes more than raw talent to win. You need coaching that can utilize it properly and the talented players willing to buy-in and play like a team.
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I disagreed with the Bortuzzo benching each game. Gunnerson did play better than I expected, but IMO Bortuzzo could have shared time with him to see if he could have provided a spark.
Heck, I'd take Bortuzzo over what I saw from Bowmeister any day.
Last time for me on this, and I know he is not perfect, but when you have the same sposedly talented core group of guys for what now last 5-6 years do the same thing each Spring and listen to the same lame excuses each year AND do it under 3 different forkin coach's..........well.........it's pretty forkin clear where your problem lies.
And to wrap things up we can talk about modern history of St Louis Blues playoff goal tenders.
It's a good'n. Maybe I'll save that for next week. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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I disagreed with the Bortuzzo benching each game. Gunnerson did play better than I expected, but IMO Bortuzzo could have shared time with him to see if he could have provided a spark.
Heck, I'd take Bortuzzo over what I saw from Bowmeister any day.
Last time for me on this, and I know he is not perfect, but when you have the same sposedly talented core group of guys for what now last 5-6 years do the same thing each Spring and listen to the same lame excuses each year AND do it under 3 different forkin coach's..........well.........it's pretty forkin clear where your problem lies.
And to wrap things up we can talk about modern history of St Louis Blues playoff goal tenders.
It's a good'n. Maybe I'll save that for next week. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Not bad.....but if Halak takes the Islanders deep I'm not going to stop yapping about it.....EVER.
griffin
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Miller won as many games as the Note.. just saying..
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1) That little forkin monkey was NEVER going to do anything here.
2) Halak bottom third in SP and GAA. His team scores goals, that's how he wins.
3) YOUR MAN.......the one you ranted and raved about all forkin season long ......the one YOU SAID was better than Miller.....was forkin NO WHERE to be found when needed most.
4) No wonder you want to talk about Halak
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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The suicide hotline is the key!!
The East side is imploding..
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The suicide hotline is the key!!
The East side is imploding..
Not sure about the suicide thing.
But if schizoids are probable for that, better get a watch going for griffin.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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The suicide hotline is the key!!
The East side is imploding..
In the words of my Grandpa Griffin:
"when you've got them on the edge, shove 'em"
griffin
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The suicide hotline is the key!!
The East side is imploding..
In the words of my Grandpa Griffin:
"when you've got them on the edge, shove 'em"
griffin
We were driving along Lindberg, I believe, to the hotel, and the five year old boy looks at a building and says:
"No fair. They shut down our bowling alley."
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Free Ken Hitchcock!!!
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Thank God! Halak and the Isles are gone so Griff can put that dog to bed!
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Thank God! Halak and the Isles are gone so Griff can put that dog to bed!
Bro - I would have been forking RELENTLESS.
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Ray-freaking-Charles could have seen that one coming!
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Ray-freaking-Charles could have seen that one coming!
Evidently Halak didn't
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Has Hitch retired yet?
Unfortunately it looks like the Hawks are playing playoff hockey again and could win this thing.. again.
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The Hawks sweep of the Wild just puts an exclamation point on the Blues first round exit. 
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The Hawks sweep of the Wild just puts an exclamation point on the Blues first round exit.
How many exclamation points do you need?
"IF" Stillman keeps Army one more year that's all he's going to get to straighten this mess out. Great paper team but not worth chit without a heart and soul.
If I'm DA, I'm cleanin out the garage and I'm lookin at a lot more than stat guys for next season.
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The forking season is over is the key!
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last_stand
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Kid from Oakville plays for the ducks.
And anyway, I'll let you know when the season is over.
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Over? Over! It's not over until WE say it's over!!!
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Bubba
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Are you saying hockey is like a bowling league.....it never ends..
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Are you saying hockey is like a bowling league.....it never ends..
Probably more like alimony--
you know it will end someday but it feels like it never ends
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