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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: Bubba]
      #252930 - 06/26/16 09:07 PM

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All in all we are in the WC hunt.









I said HUNT.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: last_stand]
      #252932 - 06/26/16 11:42 PM

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Phambino can go to center now.

Be great if he can stay healthy for a week or two.




Couple more games and he might match Heyward's HR total for the year.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: H2ODOG]
      #252960 - 07/01/16 07:04 AM

Nothing against the boys in Blue but good god it's been a long long time since I have seen so much ineptness on a Cardinal team.

From manager on down, mistake after mistake.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: last_stand]
      #252961 - 07/01/16 08:19 AM

Back to back games with 3 errors. Someone needs to read the book again, and this time try not reading between the lines.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: H2ODOG]
      #252962 - 07/01/16 08:39 AM

I just finished a season of coaching 13 y/o boys...

Cards look about the same.



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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: HAUS]
      #252963 - 07/01/16 08:59 AM

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I just finished a season of coaching 13 y/o boys...

Cards look about the same.






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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: HAUS]
      #252985 - 07/07/16 12:43 PM

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I just finished a season of coaching 13 y/o boys...

Cards look about the same.






Tru dat. Wow.

Problem is, this is pretty much how they did it in spring training and 4 months later nothing much has changed. Heading for 120+ errors on the season.

Injuries are piled up. Crunch time. This really would be a miracle turnaround.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: last_stand]
      #252986 - 07/07/16 02:14 PM

never been a fan of peralta. dude is too forkin fat & slow to play SS and now he's too fat & slow to play 3B.

pena comes off the DL and they have to release fryer who is without a doubt, head & shoulders better than pena. Now pena is out and fryer is killing it with the pirates..

was not a fan of Broxton last year and shook my head when they re-signed him this year. dude blew lead after lead last year and same chit this year.

just a couple of the many problems with this team right now..



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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: HAUS]
      #252987 - 07/07/16 02:36 PM

Been nothing but one big game of whack-a-mole with this club.

Shame, too, cubs are struggling and no ground has been gained.

Losing Carp for extended period might be the final nail, we'll see.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: last_stand]
      #252988 - 07/07/16 03:24 PM

Pena would have a hard time throwing Last Stand out if LS was trying to steal 2nd

and if LS was pitching--

he would strike Pena out 3 out of 4

Cubs can go .500 ball and the cards would have to go around .600 to catch them

I don't see them catching the Cubs

Only hope is .......
Cards will be playing their wild card competition soon
Marlins & Dodgers this month
Mets next month
Pirates & Giants September

and the Cards still have a lot of games with the Reds,Brewers and Bubba's Braves


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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: wuchang]
      #252989 - 07/07/16 04:58 PM

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Pena would have a hard time throwing Last Stand out if LS was trying to steal 2nd

and if LS was pitching--

he would strike Pena out 3 out of 4

Cubs can go .500 ball and the cards would have to go around .600 to catch them

I don't see them catching the Cubs

Only hope is .......
Cards will be playing their wild card competition soon
Marlins & Dodgers this month
Mets next month
Pirates & Giants September

and the Cards still have a lot of games with the Reds,Brewers and Bubba's Braves




Gotta say I wanna see Joey Maddon, the wizard of all the sports world, the king of everything good in baseball, fail this summer.

Fork the cubs. The very minute the Cards are out of it I am on whatever forkin wagon might be passing by that has a chance to knock 'em off.

And Wu, I really think it would have been better to use Bubba for your illustration of baseball futility.

I do have some friggen pride, you know.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: last_stand]
      #252991 - 07/07/16 05:09 PM

Hey.....I was a pretty steely 1st sacker back in the day. Never assume..

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: Bubba]
      #252992 - 07/07/16 05:22 PM

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Hey.....I was a pretty steely 1st sacker back in the day. Never assume..




First sacker?

That lingo seems.....strange.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: last_stand]
      #253004 - 07/08/16 06:09 PM

Obviously you are a young punk. Back in my day that's how you described infielders...

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: Bubba]
      #253008 - 07/09/16 09:25 AM

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Obviously you are a young punk. Back in my day that's how you described infielders...




naw, he's old as fork..




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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: HAUS]
      #253011 - 07/09/16 04:26 PM

I am old.

BP used to mean a place to get gas.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: last_stand]
      #253013 - 07/09/16 06:17 PM

E.D. used to be the name of my Uncle...

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: Bubba]
      #253020 - 07/15/16 11:44 AM

Not easy for a Cards fan to watch this season. It isn't just the losing. Sometimes you just don't have a great team and that's that (ask Bubba about the Braves). Hell, sometimes that's easier. What is painful is to watch a team become less than the sum of it's parts. Lack of clutch hitting, pitching and making big plays is OK on occasion. It doesn't work for 75% of a season. The errors that show up in the box score are frustrating but the mental errors, poor execution and sloppy play is just inexcusable for guys making millions to do one thing, play baseball... I realize they aren't robots but when you make it to the bigs, you should know what base to throw to, where you should be on any given play, the fundamentals of base running and when to take a pitch or two and when you can swing freely... Swinging at a first pitch, down by two in the 9th, after the two men in front of you walked, should be an executable offense...

At the end of the day, this team is just hard to watch and the season is really hard to get into. I hope it turns around but I am not optimistic. Never been a Matheny basher and won't start now. But when the day comes to replace him, I won't be too upset. I think he's grown about as much as he's going to grow, in terms of evolving into a great manager. Unfortunately, his growth has stopped well short of "great".

I hear a lot of talk about who we could play in the Wild Card game. All I have to say to that is "Payoffs? Are you kidding me? Playoffs? I'm hoping we can just win a game..."

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: sptsman]
      #253023 - 07/16/16 06:16 AM

Wild card????

That would mean they would have to beat the Marlins and the Mets and hope the Dodgers collapse and hold off Pittsburgh

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: wuchang]
      #253024 - 07/16/16 07:08 AM

Speakin of ED... the forkin bullpen could use some medicine..

they can't hold a lead



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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: HAUS]
      #253025 - 07/16/16 04:01 PM

Last nights game was a microcosm of a good part of the entire year.

Good hitting. Decent starting pitching.

Bad management from the dugout. Really bad.

Deplorable fielding decisions/execution.

Bad play from the bull pen.

Matheney has to play the guys who are producing (defense too) and give the old standby guys something to think about on the bench more often. There are so many of these players that he can't do it on the same night, but he needs to do something to wake this team up. Shake this team up.

He has nothing to lose, imo. Shake it up and see if they can at the very least get the basics right.

And while he is at all of this, he needs to look in the forkin mirror.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: last_stand]
      #253028 - 07/17/16 06:40 AM

and then Wainwright throws a gem and the bats did their part and they win 5-0

Schizophrenic


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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: wuchang]
      #253030 - 07/17/16 05:37 PM

If you want to beat the Cardinals, simply play them at home and put a Lefty on the mound........any Lefty. Your Single A prospect, or even a kid from your local T-ball team. Why Adams is sitting while batting .306 vs. Lefties is stupid. The new backup catcher couldn't throw out HO, if he was walking across a Nodak pothole. Broxton and Rosenpuke need money for a Greyhound bus ride to AS Springfield.

Matheny is lost. The summer heat must be cookin his brain. Dave Duncan needs to be brought out of retirement. No matter what it takes.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: H2ODOG]
      #253113 - 07/29/16 06:43 AM

Cards are 4-3 on their road trip against the 3 WC teams LA, NY and now the fish. Another win over the weekend and we go .500 in that stretch.

They are showing signs of life, consistency. The D has improved. Their last 6 wins have all been by one run which says something for the bullpen. The last two wins were at the expense of baseballs best pitchers.

Is this it? Turning a wide, wide corner here? At the very least, they are hanging tough against good teams without their best player in Carpenter and their biggest power guy in Moss.

Mo needs to make some moves. An alternative for Broxtons role and help for Siegrest to stay fresh. I say we roll with OH and not sell the farm for a high priced over rated closer. As for starters, we got Lyons for #6 and then the cupboard is bare.

It's been one frustrating season so far but gotta say, it's been it's own kind of special.

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Re: 2016 STL Cardinals [Re: last_stand]
      #253114 - 07/29/16 09:51 AM

Why do we need a #6 or #7 starter. I didn't realize teams needed more than 5. Wacha has been off his game this year, but we can't do much about that. Cashner is now off the market and Chris Sales is a winey ass beardedtaco. I think he brings more negativity to the clubhouse than anything. Especially with Lynn coming back next year, we have gotten where we are with the starters. Its going to have to work to get us to the finish line. Bullpen is holding good for now. 2 runs in the last 7 games I thing. That's solid enough.

Getting Carp and Moss back are key. Peralta can be a good bat to have in the lineup is he can get healthy and right. If not Gyorko is providing enough pop and Garcia is hitting good. Phambino and Grichuk can split time in Center. Sure its a week spot, but they are picking up on their poor hitting.

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