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earlier in the year, he'd throw a one hitter now and then, but he ain't got it now. so when he actually is healthy, he pitches like chit.. he's been around a long time in the organization and his contributions have been thin. time to hit the road.
if wacha and lynn are healthy, you'd have your starting 5 and not a bad group of pitchers either. I haven't heard where lynn is right now. heard that diaz was in springfield the past couple of days.. AA playoffs right now. Cards vs the Royals.. 
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Just when they had me accepting the inevitable....they pulled me back in.
Geezo this team drives me nuts.
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sptsman
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HAUS said:I haven't heard where lynn is right now.
Word is that he is close and could probably pitch in the last few weeks of the season and playoffs, if they make it. But... He is entering the last year of his current deal and I'm sure wants a huge payday far more than he wants to pitch for very, very long shot at another WS ring. I wouldn't plan on seeing him until Spring Training 2017. I hope I'm wrong but even if he comes back, it will have to be out of the pen and that isn't where the big problem is right now...
Thank goodness for the youngins' or this team would be 10 games back in the WC race. I had to chuckle about Matheny's idiotic comments about the veterans showing the young guys how things are done. Does the stupid forker not see the pitching and hitting stats of the last few months? Maybe the young guys need to show the veterans a thing or two. I'm losing confidence daily in MM... I finally heard one of the sports media talking heads bring this up on my drive in to work this morning. I wondered how long it would take before the STL media lapdogs would start to point out some of MM's flaws. Like managing a team that is so fundamentally poor, defensively, it has cost them a dozen games or more... 
Here is my prediction for the end of the year: Wainwright has surgery and we find out he had some issue all season long (hopefully this is the case or he really is "done"). Garcia is declared mentally unfit to play the game and gets institutionalized at a place where everything is in order and nothing can disrupt his day. The starting rotation for 2017 is Martinez (ace), Lynn, Reyes, Leake and Weaver.
13 Games left and only 1 game out of a WC spot. Probably going to come down to the wire...
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H2ODOG
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The Cardinals are tired. 5 straight years of play-off baseball, with 4 of those to the NLCS, 2 WS trips,'including a WS win.........they are just tired and need a post season off. It's an excuse new money is using so old money is going with that.
Never mind the excise that their organization just isn't deep enough to trade away their talent for a WS title and survive the next year with injuries.
Cards pull out a WC spot and spend it on the road, which is the best place for them to play.
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What happened to nlcs champion??
Tired? They have been playing this way all year.
This team would be 8 games back in the division and 5 games up in the WC if they knew how to play decent defense.
I saw that in the west side thread...."tired" due to post season exposure. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ...It has SOME merit for a team in post season 13 of last 15 years but..........2 forking years of it??
I haven't given up....but after Friday night....I almost did.
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H2ODOG
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I didn't say I was giving up. I said they make the playoffs with a WC berth and make it to the NLCS. After that, I leave the procrastinating or prognosticating to griffin. He does have a great track record.
If the Royals excuse is they are tired.....that means STL is already dead and decomposed worm food with their postseason appearances.
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H2ODOG
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I see Lackey has won 2 games since June 14th while losing 6 games in those 15 starts.
Seems like the Cubs sure got their money's worth this season out of Mr. anger management
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H2ODOG
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Heyward is batting his weight finally at .230 average. .325 slugging. .302 OPS. And 7 HR. Poor bastard has 4 assists ok the year. Grichuck who got his ass shipped to AAA for playing so poor has twice as many assists as Heyward does and Piscotfy has the same number. Both those guys make about 16 million less a year and have 3 times as many HR's.
Good to see the Cubs taking out the trash and overpaying for it in the offseason
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My fave team right now are the Braves. 2 in a row.
Thank you Bubba!
3 way tie for WC.
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H2ODOG
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Go dawgs
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sptsman
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Cards need to sweep in Colorado today. Anything better than 1-3 in Chicago will be a bonus. That is a damn good team, they've already clinched the Division and will be playing loose and free. Nothing would be more satisfying to them than sweeping the Cards. I hope I'm wrong but I don't have the warm-fuzzies about playing them this weekend. They're going to face Arrieta on Friday, Hendricks on Sat and Hammel on Sunday. Ouch!! Let's hope the birds bring their A-game and some attitude...
The good news is I don't see Garcia in the rotation. Hopefully, he is getting treatment for headworms at some facility...
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We are 8-8 against the cubs so far this season.
As good as they are, we do what we can do with them then move on to close out at home against 2 truly beatable teams. It's THOSE teams in THAT ballpark I am more worried about.
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H2ODOG
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We are playing the Flubs in Shitcago. Road games never scare me with this team. It's the 7 games at Busch, that we will lose 5 outta 7 to. Probably get swept by lowly Cincinnati
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Bubba, how do I do the stupid chop?
http://www.espn.com/mlb/recap?gameId=360921121
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Bubba
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Glad we could help . I put in the word for you. You perform the chop as if you are casting a fly rod , all in the elbow. You're welcome. 
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After sitting there last night watching the 3 fer 60 Brandon Moss be put into the cleanup spot by Matheney last night in the big Chicago game I came to a conclusion.
It will take a literal miracle for the Cards to make the WC playoff game.
Yes, he went 0-4. Yes, he struck out with the tying run in scoring position late in the game. And yes, he missed the ball with his bat by a country mile most every time he swung.
Thanks Mike!
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Holy chit.
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sptsman
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After sitting there last night watching the 3 fer 60 Brandon Moss be put into the cleanup spot by Matheney last night in the big Chicago game I came to a conclusion.
It will take a literal miracle for the Cards to make the WC playoff game.
Yes, he went 0-4. Yes, he struck out with the tying run in scoring position late in the game. And yes, he missed the ball with his bat by a country mile most every time he swung.
Thanks Mike!
And after settling into my seat to watch a little of the Cards game last night and seeing Garcia take the mound, I felt the same way. Then seeing Moss in the lineup, batting .064 over the past month, I just gave up after the first inning. It is pretty rare that you know a game is over after the bottom of the 1st inning but last night was one of those games. I watched the 2nd inning and that was all I could stand...
Tonight the Reds throw some no-name, young kid with a 5.50 ERA at the Cards. And we throw Wainwright (with 4.57 ERA of his own). Should be a guaranteed victory right? I guess we'll see...
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Nothing is guaranteed with this years team. They can still get in the playoffs but they have to almost win out to do it.
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Bubba
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Go Dawgs!! 
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H2ODOG
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Why the Fork is Moss still playing. He isn't even batting Daniel Descasco's weight. Then Mike has Jedd Geryko sitting on the bench for the last 2 games.
2nd and 3rd with 1 out and we can't get a run home to tie. Lead off triple and we cast get a safety squeeze on, a regular squeeze, or a forking fly ball for a sac fly. All the long balls we hit and they can't get a fly ball deep enough to score. Out managed by a chit team. Best at home again by a chit team. Hell. We should have said Busch stadium was broken all hear and played on the road. Would have won 130+ games doing that.
Stick a fork in it. The Mets are hot. The Giants can actually play baseball. Maybe we can fire MM in the offseason. See ya in 2017
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Giants are trying to give it to us but Mike says no.
Moss and Matheney equally lost. Hell play the kids that are up here on the bench.
Anemic bats. Horrible D.
Only a fool like me would pray for any kind of turnaround at this juncture.
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As Matheney has stuck with him night after night in the last month, chasing the WC, Moss is batting .073 with 36 strike outs.
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sptsman
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As Matheney has stuck with him night after night in the last month, chasing the WC, Moss is batting .073 with 36 strike outs.
I realize you have to let managers manage their teams but shouldn't someone step in and share the Moss stats with MM? Would anyone's boss let them do something so detrimental to their organization for so long without stepping in? If this weren't so maddening, it would be comical. Are we really to believe the Hazelbaker or Pham couldn't do better than this?
I hope MM gets hammered mercilessly if they miss the playoffs. I hope he gets called out by every media person that he talks to. Can't wait to see his grouchy, cob-up-my-arse attitude when they repeatedly ask him about playing Moss over other players that have shown they can hit.
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Vin Scully's last game is Sunday. What a forkin career.
Might try to catch the last few innings if it's streaming somewhere. It'd be pretty cool if that game meant something to the Cardinals and his final broadcast gave us a WC spot.
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