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Yeah, you're right....Stasny and Allen and Lehtera and a complete lack of heart, or grit, or whatever you want to call it.
And yeah, Perron.....you know, with all those winning teams he's been a part of.  He's a real help when the chips are down. LMAOOOOOOOOOO
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No way is Perron in the same disappoint class as those three.
He's never been a tough guy so I don't know why you expect that out of him now.
Hell, he's got 2 more points than Backes this year. bwaaaaaaaaaa
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Dude... he's the exact opposite of a tough guy. His game shrinks to nothing when it gets physical. Pay attention dammit!
He has never and will never be a part of a successful nhl program. Period.
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LS - you can find everything I hate about Perron at the 14:00 mark of the 3rd period in tonight's game. The Blues are bringing the puck out of their end but the forwards are gassed. The defense, rightfully, throws the puck back to give the forwards a chance to get off the ice. In fact, both teams make a change......ONE guy gets caught and doesn't get off the ice.......guess who? Yeah.....your boy, the same as he ever was. Only two explanations for that......either you are just not a team player, or your head is so far up your ass you aren't even in the game.....either one fits that idiot.
Perron has great hands.....there can be no question of that. If you remember, i was a big fan when he came up and thought he'd turn into a perennial 30-40 goal scorer. His hands are that good. Look at his goal tonight......genius. But he can't play the game....which is why he's never been a part of a winning program. And he sure as hell can't play when the game gets rough....he hates to get hit or hit anyone.
David Perron is a picture of everything that is wrong with the Blues now.....same as he was the first time around with this team. Bringing him back was a joke.
And another loss off an early lead for the Note.....no heart....none.
IF this team makes the playoffs (and that's a loooong way from a sure thing) they won't get out of the first round. Perron is part of the problem.....same as he ever was.
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As long as we keep this little dispute where it belongs I am fine with that. The question is, is he a "problem" player.
You have presented your case, I get it, and I agree no way is he the ultimate 200' hockey player. But he is getting up and down the ice like never before. He is back checking, cycling the puck less, looking for his mates more.
Basically, he's a far better hockey player than he was when he left after his very disappointing years here. I was in full favor of trading him. But he's better today because he has widened his game and far less selfish.
The Blues biggest problems are in goal and pretty much the 3 center positions. Then Steen. Then not having ONE of a Rattie or Jaskin or Paajarvi developing into something really good.
There's plenty of targets to go around but Perron is not on the list of problems for this team. We need his offense but he's got the hits, the takeaways and enough of the 200' game to prove it.
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Bringing Perron BACK is certainly on the list of problems for this team.....it was a stupid move by a front office that has lost it's way. The team mirrors that.
Your Captain is -9??? Your #1 goalie isn't even in the top 25 in the league? DAVID FRIGGIN' PERRON IS YOUR #5 SCORER??????
Mark my word.....this team is in danger of not making the playoffs....and bringing players like Perron, PERENNIAL LOSERS, back to the team was a joke beyond comprehension.
I hate this version of the Blues. They have no character and no heart. Hell, I was never even a Backes fan....but he looks like Mark Messier compared to the dogs the Blues are running out there now.
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griffin putting all that on DP is ridiculous.
We lost Backes, Brouwer and Elliott. Perron is not here to replace any of them, don't blame him because his game is not suited to do that or that Army did not set this team up properly.
He's a concussed player, I mean big time seriously so. He probably shouldn't even be playing. There's heart in that, whether it's the kind you like or not.
I don't disagree with the majority of what you are saying about management and the team on the ice, in fact I agree with most of it. I'm just knit picking this blame on Perron and tagging him as some huge force pulling the Blues down. He isn't. And yes, the Blues need scorers badly.
Merry Christmas griff........and give them January, miracles still happen.
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Wait......are you telling me that I shouldn't be critical of Perron because he is concussed and probably shouldn't even be playing?? (are you related to him or something?) I shouldn't be critical of the Blues for bringing in a player that shouldn't even be playing?
This is the NHL....it's a business. If you can't play (and I agree he can't) then you are out of the league. I'm NOT paying to watch players that shouldn't be playing (as long as they also really CAN'T play).
And don't worry.....when he's gone I'm going to start on one of the other useless bastards filling this roster .....but Perron was ALREADY GONE from a team that couldn't win (and he was a big part of the reason why) so he's first.
And yeah, Merry Christmas to you and yours as well.
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Point on the concussion comment was to say he shouldn't be playing on his own account, having nothing to do with what his abilities are. If he were Wayne Gretzky with the same concussion history I'd say the same thing. It's a personal choice he's made.
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Fire Perron!! Bring back Oshie! 
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Fire Perron!! Bring back Oshie!
Obviously you don't pay attention! A couple of years ago it was determined by the experts on here that it was ALL Oshies fault! 
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Nobody is missing Oshie......I'm glad he's gone and he can stay gone.
Still.....somebody tell me what we got for Oshie, Elliott, and Backes.
As soon as I get done flaming these bastards pretending to be hockey players I'm going to get started on the front office of this mess.........I'd take a flamethrower to that end of the building.
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Lucky enough to go last night. Rough sluggish start but man it ended with a bang, had some fun.
Loved that game winner by Perron too.
Hutton needs to play more. It seems Allen has to be pushed and I'm about done with him if he doesn't get it right soon so Hutton should be more game ready than he is now.
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Keep Perron!! 
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Where's Ryan Miller when you need him? Bring back Marty Brodeur!
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Hawks-Blues.
Be there! Hope the Blues are!
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 the hawks up!
I liked it
Texted Ojibway to keep him up 2 the minute on skaters as him was chasin D. Duck.
Dude said  the Blues & also said the win was nice.
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Ol' Jake the Snake gave up another soft one with the Blues in the lead for the opponent to tie it. And again, as it has happened numerous times, they folded like a house of cards in a wind storm..
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How can I put this?
ummmmmmmm......Allen sucks.
It appears Armstrong does as well. I've stood behind him on most of his moves but dishing Elliott then extending this guy well before he had to for 4 years is too much.
Hope I'm wrong.
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You normally are..
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Quote:
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How can I put this?
ummmmmmmm......Allen sucks.
It appears Armstrong does as well. I've stood behind him on most of his moves but dishing Elliott then extending this guy well before he had to for 4 years is too much.
Hope I'm wrong.
Nice call Sybil
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Quote:
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You normally are..
Really mean and uncalled for.
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Bubba
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Grab your coloring book and head to your safe place...
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BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
LS was triggered.
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Trigger?
Is that you Roy?
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