H2ODOG
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So the Cardinals sent Aledmys Diaz to AAA, with Wong on the DL. Not that I'm a fan of Wong, but one actual MLB player on the DL.........and management sends a guy hitting .260, while leading the team in hits and doubles to AAA. It makes zero sense. His average BTW is better than Carps, Piscotty, & Fowler. Your leading hitter gets shipped to Memphis while you promote a guy hitting .254 in the minors........Diaz Is hitting .260 in the Majors. If a kid isn't hitting .300 in the minors and beating the cover off the ball, he doesn't need to be called up
I'm still waiting for the ENTIRE bullpen to be shipped out. Rosenpuke blew the game 2 days ago. Nearly blew it again last night. Oh needs to hit the Oriental circuit again. When know chit is in piss poor shape when Brett Cecil is actually the guy you can trust right now If it wasn't for the pen, we might be just out of first. Instead we sit in 3rd
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WTF? Is Armstrong running this show?
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the gay card thrower Call Me Ragnar
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A win is a win but dang love how MM waits until the sacks are loaded by Rosie before he sends Bowman in to close for the first time ever.
And yeah, that last 3-2 pitch was a ball by a country mile. But Yadi didn't see it that way. bwaaaaaaaaaaaa
Dusty had to chit a brick on that one.
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wuchang
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Yeah---walking a .135 hitter to load the bases was a stroke of genius by Rosenthal
and you are right (damn, I hate saying that LOL)--
it didn't quite take an academy award performance to sell that last pitch
(Welcome to the show rookie-- it was close enough to call)
6 for their last 7--
Seems like all the call ups have been making things happen--
do they have anyone on the farm that can close??
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the gay card thrower Call Me Ragnar
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Tough one tonight for another forking sunday night game.
We could have a closer down there, we'll never know it with MM making the calls.
Beating some good teams here lately........but it's always some kind of adventure.
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Yeah---walking a .135 hitter to load the bases was a stroke of genius by Rosenthal
and you are right (damn, I hate saying that LOL)--
it didn't quite take an academy award performance to sell that last pitch
(Welcome to the show rookie-- it was close enough to call)
6 for their last 7--
Seems like all the call ups have been making things happen--
do they have anyone on the farm that can close??
Espn never put up the box did they?
That thing looked way out to me Wu. Yadi sold it big.
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wuchang
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The view from center showed it bending back over the black on the outside....but they did not do the box so you never know
The way umps set up,they are guessing on that outside pitch anyway.
At least they won the series with the Nats but they got spanked last night.
Was texting back and forth with Mel and I told him we might hang a crooked number on the Nats bullpen but the way Max was dealing I wasn't sure if we would ever get to that point.
The Fish tonight at 6:15
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Redbirds pitching staff:
On the closer thingy.............
http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=235&stn=true&sid=t235
Don't actually know but would guess this Tivailala dude looks the sharpest.
Weird, he has 5 saves but last 10 games zero saves and last 10 games he's running a 3.00 era yet no losses.
Not terrible, and not sure what situations he has been put in, either.
I think he's been up here with the Cards before, right?
I like Bowman but it seems to me he might be best as a later inning setup guy. But SOMETIMES you never know until you put a guy in there. Either way Matheney as usual not exactly on top of this, he's just running out of options.
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wuchang
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Yeah--Tuivailala has been up and down--hot and cold-- hasn't been a consistent game end guy
Matheny didn't have much choice-- he had already pitched Oh NO and Lyons in the 8th and then went with Rosenthal....and we saw how that went--Bowman may have been all he had left that he had any confidence in
Bowman is the ground ball guy that Matheny uses when they need a DP
He is the last guy I'd use as a closer but sometimes the circus ends on a good note
Don't know if Matheny drinks but this team might be a good reason to start 
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Yeah--Tuivailala has been up and down--hot and cold-- hasn't been a consistent game end guy
Matheny didn't have much choice-- he had already pitched Oh NO and Lyons in the 8th and then went with Rosenthal....and we saw how that went--Bowman may have been all he had left that he had any confidence in
Bowman is the ground ball guy that Matheny uses when they need a DP
He is the last guy I'd use as a closer but sometimes the circus ends on a good note
Don't know if Matheny drinks but this team might be a good reason to start
Wait! That may be it! AB sales were lagging so they told Matheny to manage like this and Cards Nation drinks more! BRILLIANT!!   
It's as reasonable as any other explanation..
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the gay card thrower Call Me Ragnar
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Brew Crew hot going in against the Yankees this weekend.
Meh Cards with a good draw against the Mets.
Sure seems like a good weekend to pick up ground. That is if you have a team that can actually pick up ground.
Still early, but at some point, it's time to fish or cut bait.
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At this rate, Diaz may never get back up here again. bwaaaaaa
How long can DeJong keep this up? Have the Cards really found a decent ss with power?? Is Dawg still pizzed that Diaz was sent down? Questions to ponder.
We catch the cubs at the AS break. There really is a god.
Where would this team be without Phambino and Gyorko? With a couple of kids thrown in here lately.
Some signs of life for the second half. That's a good thing. Now, can they close out some games without looking like the gong show?
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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H2ODOG
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Trade Wong. Move Gyorko to 2nd. It's his natural spot. Move Carp back to 3rd. It fits him better. Being Diaz back up and keep DeJong on the big club. They can work on splitting time as SS and both are good PH options. I don't think DeJong can keep up his heroics through the end of July.
There is talk of getting Stanton from Florida. Taking over the richest contact in sports history. SMH. Sure it has a $10 million buyout..........not a fan of that move. Although we could get rid of Grichuck now that he has had his yearly Minor League clear my head trip. As long as Weaver and Reyes don't get shipped out on any trades. I'd rather keep Grichuck around with Phambino and go after some big swinging 1st baseman. A real one, not a Matheny experiment.
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Cards have ignored defense for some time now. It's been plug 'n play baseball to fill out a line up card and it shows.
I'd trade quite a few of these guys out IF they were bringing back some people who actually have real positions to play and stats that show a basic, solid history of how to play the game.
Agree Wong is expendable and for me so is Grichuk for the right price.
Diaz is NOT a ss stop and never has been. He hasn't the range or the arm to make the big plays regularly. I like him, but he belongs at second. Or, as you say, a good and valuable platoon/extra IF'er. Or trade bait, if DeJong is for real or any where near where he is right now. And that means his D too, that is first and foremost for who plays short imo.
DeJong is something. Hotter than a firecracker right now but you have to play that out and see where it goes. Voit too showing big power.
Pham and Gyorko and these kids are carrying the team here lately on this uptick. Time for a few others to forking STEP UP (bwaaaaaaaaaaa) and at least play to their career numbers.
Haven't even touched on pitching. Mid and late relief gong show has to end.
This division is up for grabs, but you have to be able to play the basic forkin game if you want it.
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H2ODOG
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It all goes back to not having a great 1st baseman........so we try to rotate the players to make it happen. Gryorko is a 2nd baseman by default. Put him back there. Carp has spent more time at 3rd than anywhere else. Put him back.........or leave Jed at the hot box and Carp at 2nd. DeJong and Diaz can figure out SS and a bench player. Wong has an attitude and has been a cancer in the clubhouse. Is Voit the deal or just another hot call up?? Go get a 1st baseman even if he is only under contract through 2018. Voit is there in the wings if needed.
Phambino deserves to play until he gets hurt or can't produce. Piscotty and Grichuck can split days or Grichuck can give Fowler a day off also. He is a fukin head case and his stock is up. I would shop his ass. Sierrra is in the minors in case we need another fast dude in the outfield. If the Cards go after Stanton, Grichuck and Piscotty might get traded. Or Phambino goes with Grichuck. Piscotty is a Stanford guy and has shown to be healthy. Grichuck would be the first to be traded in that deal.
Mo has several options and good trade bait. He just needs to get rid of Matheny's favorite guys if the opportunity comes up.......i.e., Wong and Grichuck
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Are you shoppin Grichuk or not?? Two posts, two stories there dawg.
Next 30 days tells the story. Buyers or sellers. But truth be told, it's time for this team to grow up and get a set line up once and for all that plays the whole game.
This chit is givin me a headache.
I read we have TWO position players that have stayed pat all year and I can only name one of them.
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H2ODOG
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I don't want to take on Stanton and his contract........but if they are going after him, send Grichuck to Miami. He won't be worth a chit in that target right environment. Poor bastard won't get in until 5 am every home game. Sucker will be destroying Puss instead of fastballs.
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Bubba
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. Sucker will be destroying Puss instead of fastballs.
And that my friends is why I'm not in the bigs today!! 
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. Sucker will be destroying Puss instead of fastballs.
And that my friends is why I'm not in the bigs today!!
I thought it had something to do with the size of your pekker.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Another gong show last night.
Hey Mikey.....maybe Oh isn't a closer right now, like he was not BEFORE the AS game.
NOTHING should be considered automatic right now. Believe what you see coach, not what you want to see.
Yet another wasted opportunity.
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Whelp apparently the Cards are happy to wallow in 3rd and 4th place with one forking disaster of a bullpen virtually guaranteeing defeat in the teeth of victory.
Defense and the bullpen have simply made this team one big pile of frustration.
How many games have we lost with a lead after 7 innings? Don't know but I will guess it's the most in the major leagues.
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Whelp apparently the Cards are happy to wallow in 3rd and 4th place with one forking disaster of a bullpen virtually guaranteeing defeat in the teeth of victory.
Defense and the bullpen have simply made this team one big pile of frustration.
How many games have we lost with a lead after 7 innings? Don't know but I will guess it's the most in the major leagues.
If the Cards are not leading the majors in lost leads and errors, they have to be darn close. I never thought I would be one of those people that bash the Mgr., but this falls on MM. You have to take ownership and corrective actions when your team plays so fundamentally poor it would embarrass a little league team. Base running, situational hitting, bunting, fielding, and the list goes on...
How Rosenthal is not on a bus to Memphis or sitting in the press box for a few games, is beyond me. If it was his first offense and he was a stellar performer otherwise, you might overlook it. But he has pulled this stunt before and blown multiple leads to boot. These players know there is no real accountability for their poor play and inexcusably poor fundamentals. Why practice a few hours extra each day? Why spend extra time honing your craft? Its not like Matheny is going to bench them or hold them accountable in any way. No, he wants to be a "player's manager" whatever the hell that means.
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wuchang
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George Kissell must be spinning in his grave
They will probably call him Pinwheel Kissell now
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George Kissell had far more to do with this teams success era than any other person alive.
Matheney....signed thru 2020.......and one lucky mofo for it.
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