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......lose Reyes for the year?
Man this team is jinxed. Waino, Lynn, now the most promising pitcher in a long long time out for the forking season, if rumors are true.
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I guess I'm lost. I thought Waino and Lynn are still available to pitch. Your crystal ball must be a crystal pipe
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Third year in a row we lost a starter to surgery. Before their year started.
But you knew that.
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Could have fallen thru a barn roof instead
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r cut his pinty on a blade 
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What's up with all the talk on how much Molina is going to play?
They gonna sit Carson Kelley if he's ready?
Did Molina sit when he was ready all those years ago?
If Kelly is anywhere near the player they say he is, I'd like to see him play 50-60 games this year. It'd be good for Yadi's game too.
But I'm thinking fat chance.
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It sounds to me like the only way Kelly plays in the big leagues this year is if there is an injury or he is part of the Sept call-ups. I was under the impression he is not quite ready for the big show and they signed Fryer as the back-up (a solid back-up, by the way). Then again, I can't quite figure out what is going on. Hopefully, he's ready to play and can learn from Yadi. 50-60 games would be ideal to keep Molina fresh (and get Kelly the experience he needs in the bigs) but they've been saying chit like that for the last 2-3 years and he still plays 130-140+ games a year. And do you really want Kelly sitting on the bench for 120+ games? Wouldn't it be better for his development to be playing every day in Memphis?
They say he's one of the the best catching prospects in the entire MLB. I hope he pans out. Yadi can't have much left in the tank, unless they move him to first base to finish his career...
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I'm happy Jason Heyward has found his swing this offseason. Batting .087 so far. Hella of pickup by the cubs. 
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Would love to see that particular cub repeat.
Nothing against JHey, but fork him he chose them, and fork the cubs too.
Seems like the Cards pitching is all in order and purring along. Wacha, Lynn and Waino 'sposedly lights out. It's the perfect set up for a let down.
bwaaaaaaaaaa
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Ok......I'm with y'all about JHey
but does The Phambino make the opening day roster?? 
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I don't know, but he has a couple of weeks to determine his future.
If he does make it, you can almost guarantee he'll be on the dl for something before June. I like him but he's what 29 now and has he ever stayed healthy for a season?
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yep-- there are quite a few outfielders in camp that look really good and they are smoking the ball
Phambino was hitting .174 up until his 2 for 4 day yesterday
what is the old saying prospect to suspect??
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I'll take Jose Martinez over Phambino, but Tommy makes the team to keep a 5th outfielder on the squad.....but just barely. He will break a nail or sprain his eyebrow by May 15th, missing the rest of the season until after the All-Star break.
Cards win the division by 5 1/2 games. Cubs out of contention by June 17th. Lackey is in anger management by Mid May. Heyward is back in Des Moines shagging balls and working on his swing by June 1st. Lester goes on the DL come June with an oblique strain. Arrieta, as much as I like the guy will have season ending Tommy John surgery at the AS break, which will allow him to be at home with his smoking hot wife.
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Pics please.
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I'll take Jose Martinez over Phambino, but Tommy makes the team to keep a 5th outfielder on the squad.....but just barely. He will break a nail or sprain his eyebrow by May 15th, missing the rest of the season until after the All-Star break.
Cards win the division by 5 1/2 games. Cubs out of contention by June 17th. Lackey is in anger management by Mid May. Heyward is back in Des Moines shagging balls and working on his swing by June 1st. Lester goes on the DL come June with an oblique strain. Arrieta, as much as I like the guy will have season ending Tommy John surgery at the AS break, which will allow him to be at home with his smoking hot wife.
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I changed my damn mind too. Phambino will be at Memphis to start the season. His ass gets cut to work on his health until someone gets hurt. I wish Gyorko would get the starting job over Johnny Roids Peralta. We should have traded Johnny P in the offseason given the chance.
Royals barely break .500 also and finish in 3rd in the AL Central also. I would post that in the Royals thread, but the interest in the ball club jumped off the bandwagon last season at the AS Break.
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Pics please.
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Cards will prolly go with extra pitching as a part of their early season roster.
What the hell they doing with Adams? I'd go Gyorko too over Johnny. Particularly in the dog days when Johnny can barely make it to the plate. bwaaaaaaaa
While I'm at it we'll see but I'm about done with Matheney. The guy puts me to sleep, he's way to veteran orientated and his samo samo song and dance needs to go.
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Phambino might not even make the opening day roster. Dude might have pulled that eyebrow Friday earlier than expected with his head first slide
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18934...=espnapi_public
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports...-a-memphis/amp/
Phambino heading down to AAA. Kolton Wong better lose the attitude or his ass will be gone also. I'd rather see Jedd Geryko getting daily playing time than Wong.
STL and Molina should just excercise the 2018 option right now and work on a new contract as they find time. Pay the man what he is worth. He still has 3-4 more good years left.
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If they're gonna sign him the sooner the better. Offer should up him this year and get it included in the new extended deal making it more attractive.
Thing about Yadi is his value to the staff on top of a potential HOF talent. Take the chance and get it done.
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STL and Molina should just exercise the 2018 option right now and work on a new contract as they find time. Pay the man what he is worth. He still has 3-4 more good years left.
No way Molina accepts it, if the Cards offer it (I'm guessing they already have). He's going to want a 3-4 year deal, if he signs anything.
I love Molina and think he has been the glue, holding this team together for the last 10+ years. But the Cards need to stick to their playbook and not overpay aging veterans. It has made the New England Patriots the best sports franchise in the world. It has been shown time after time that paying aging veterans rarely pays off. And it is especially crippling for mid-market teams like the Cards.
I have to agree with LS, Matheny is not likely to take this or any team to the promised land. He has not been a quick study when it comes to learning how to be a big league manager and how to win with an above average roster. Excluding last year, this team has had the horses to win it all, every year he's had this team. And one could argue that they could have and should have at least made the playoffs last year, had he better prepared them to play a little defense and run the bases at a high school level or higher...
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Kelly isn't ready for the big show. Keep Molina around for 3-4 years. He can play 1st base his last year or 2 if needed and could help mentor Kelly
It's not like you are teaching Matt Holliday to play 1st base. Make him a Cardinal for life. His defensive stats are still well above the rest of the league.
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Albert Pujols 2.0.......just sayin
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Every one from the Molina camp is saying Cards better pay to stay or he's gone.
If the Cards want him they need to renegotiate and include this year into a new 4 year offer my guess is it starts at 80 mil.
I think Yadi has 2 strong years left and maybe a 3rd as a 100 game starter. If he wasn't a catcher I wouldn't do it but this guy has to be the best game manager in all of baseball.
Funny to think about the Pats comparison because in SOME ways Molina and Brady should be a part of that comparison too.
The worst part of all this is Kelly, the #1 catching prospect, being held back. Maybe it's Kelley to first next year isn't he a converted catcher anyway?
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