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Have no strong opinion yet on Shildt but have to confess his tactical moves and even his pressers are so far refreshing and about 10 notches above MM.
On one point, yesterdays game, 4 run lead in the eighth and he again went to Hicks and Norris 2nd consecutive day. Not sure about that, and he should dam well know we need all three against chicago so why not at least try pen options to save those two for Sunday?
Will Hudson get the big call tonight if we can manage to stay in the game?
Secondly, Fowler given the entire left side of the infield his third AB. He dekes a bunt then goes back to his swinging ways and pops out. Does he not know how to bunt or is this just stupid?? Was that his decision or Shildt?
See Carpenter.
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Why the fork did MO ship Mercado off to Cleveland??
Did he run too fast for this franchise??
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H2ODOG
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That’s Mo for you. I bet he wipes his ass before he Chits also.
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I'll be curious to see if Mercado makes their big club even before Sept 1st. He has great speed and solid defense and the guy can stand in too. Don't know enough about the 2 prospects we got but I was hoping to see Mercado in STL this year.
The question now is will they give O'neill and Bader the REAL chance to show what they have or does Dex get his usual spot?
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Say what you want about TP, but here's a class act quote on his way out the door:
"I'm just disappointed," he said. "I wanted to give more. I wanted to give more, from a playing perspective. I got involved in the community. I really enjoyed being able to do that. But I wish I had given more. I had an opportunity here. They gave me a chance."
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Say what you want about TP, but here's a class act quote on his way out the door:
"I'm just disappointed," he said. "I wanted to give more. I wanted to give more, from a playing perspective. I got involved in the community. I really enjoyed being able to do that. But I wish I had given more. I had an opportunity here. They gave me a chance. I JUST DIDN'T STEP UP"
I fixed it for you.....same old story, same old line. 
griffin
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sptsman
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last_stand said:
Say what you want about TP, but here's a class act quote on his way out the door:
"I'm just disappointed," he said. "I wanted to give more. I wanted to give more, from a playing perspective. I got involved in the community. I really enjoyed being able to do that. But I wish I had given more. I had an opportunity here. They gave me a chance. I JUST DIDN'T STEP UP"
I fixed it for you.....same old story, same old line.
griffin
Agreed... Here is what I posted at the end of last season. Had they seen the obvious, they could have received a much better return for him then:
I am going to disagree with most about Tommy pham. He has been great this year and that can't be denied. But he's 29 or 30 and has serious eye issues. He has trouble seeing in day games and it is very unlikely he can maintain the numbers he put up this year, once teams break him down and start pitching to him accordingly. Remember, it took him a long time to make it to the bigs. Use him as trade bait.
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While the Cards have their issues, the Royals are 41 games behind Boston.
That is all.
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sptsman
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While the Cards have their issues, the Royals are 41 games behind Boston.
That is all.
Ouch!! 
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H2ODOG
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While the Cards have their issues, the Royals are 41 games behind Boston.
That is all.
That’s what happen when new money decides to go all in for a 2 year run. When you do that you get 100 loss seasons. Welcome to new moneys start if a 30 year drought.
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Dexter Fowler might be gone for the rest of the season. Not that he was contributing for his crazy contract. . Fowler wasn’t even batting David Eckstein’s weight.......and now hopefully he Rides the pine for the rest of the season,
This is a perfect opportunity to bring up Oscar Mercado from AAA, with Pham traded. to see how fast he is and how good he can play defense.........oh wait.......never mind. We traded his ass for a couple Single A players. A guy who could be used right now and is MLB ready for a couple guys we won’t see for 3 seasons. SMH
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Waiting to see how that great move turns out. I still have never gotten an official explanation on Mo's brain fart on that one. I'm thinking it was a "roster" move having to do with MONEY.
So the Cards are 11-9 I think since Shildt took over. Nothing earth shattering, but they have won 3 series in a row and it's actually entertaining for the most part watching this team play.
He's changed a lot up, even MM lovers can't fault more than 20-30% of his moves. I thought he pulled JF an inning to soon today, but no, the rested pen got it done. He put Munoz in right for the eighth and he pretty much saved the game with a nice cutoff keeping the tying runner from advancing.
If Shildt can keep this team on it's present course, he deserves full consideration to stick. It's a big if, but I like this guy and fork the search for the "name brand" guy for the sake of it. They can probably sign Shildt to a short term deal and see what he can do.
Matt Rumplestiltskin Carpenter has woken up. And I mean big time!
Outside looking in. At least they are still looking.
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sptsman
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The Mercado deal was the result of a perfect storm of circumstances. There was/is the roster situation, a glut of outfielders and their internal evaluations. To be fair, the Cards don't have a bad record when it comes to trading minor league'rs to other teams. Not many have gone on to be great MLB'ers. Only time will tell if that move was good, bad or terrible.
This team is better than it was a month ago but that wasn't a very high bar to go over. Their base running is still atrocious and they have moved from horrific to just average on defense. The bullpen makeover and Carpenter becoming the ghost of Ted Williams have been the biggest factors. And, of course, the new skipper seems to have eliminated much of the "dumb-manager" moves that hurt them. Can Carp continue to rake? Can the bullpen hold up? Can the young pitchers keep it up? It's going to take a lot going right for a few months for them to even have a prayer at a wild card spot. Not likely but hopefully they don;t collapse and give us something to watch...
I'm all for giving Shildt a two year deal and see how he can do. He lacks the flash and name recognition but seems to know what the fork he's doing...
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I can't hang with all you old forks on all this serious stuff, so does anyone else think francisco pena looks a chit load like oquendo??
checking the ol honest interweb, pena was born in 89. oquendo and tony were in stl together...??
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H2ODOG
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There AINT NO WAY IN HELL that is Tony Pena’s kid. Looks like Oquendo was a secret weapon off the field also.
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Obviously he was a real Secret Weapon
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last_stand
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No chatter from the east side on the upcoming series?
Huh.
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fastman
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No chatter on the win streak.
Huh.
The fat lady has been relagated to the bullpen and can dance with Carlos upon his return.
El Birdos are dangling that carrot. I like it.
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Pretty sweet win last night. Carp unreal but others did their part too.
It's just nice to be defensively sound up the middle with some players that can save some runs and then also produce at the plate as well.
Wish I could say same for JM but he and that bat crazy swing just too dang good to sit. 4/5 last night!
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sptsman
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Let's get through August to see if this is just a temporary bump from the change of leadership or the real deal. At a minimum, you can see a path to the playoffs, if they keep it up. Could be a fun few weeks or we could be back to mediocrity. Enjoying the ride for now...
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Cecil was activated off the DL and is back on the 25 man roster
Webb optioned to Memhis
Lord have mercy
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fastman
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WTF,,,,,,,,,,, 
Get hot K Wong 
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sptsman
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Cecil was activated off the DL and is back on the 25 man roster
Webb optioned to Memhis
Lord have mercy
If his role is anything other than clean-up duty or filling innings when the game is a blowout (either way), someone needs their head examined... 
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last_stand
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Dear Mike,
Remember growing up and learning about kryptonite?
And remember bro, that was Super Man who stayed clear.
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