Cafeoutdoors.com: Poor Politics

typical liberal always going to a latter document, written for the specific purpose of government than go to the primary document of this nation's birth

Now I wonder why it is we celebrate July 4 every year when the Declaration of Independence was signed? Instead of Sept. 17 when the Constitution was ratified. Because it was THE founding document of this nation, the Constitution, as important as it is, though not to Democrats, was the nation's second attempt at how to figure out how best to run this government of the people and by the people, but those people were endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable right, ya know life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, you know it in the fifth amendment to the latter document your party daily chits on as life, liberty and property.

you mention that we got our rights from "an ancient Western tradition of philosophy and political thought that recognizes a certain conception of rational human being possessed with free will."

now where was that written in the Constitution, let's use your document, where in the Constitution was your phrase even paraphrased.

Now when they convened in the hot Philadelphia summer of 1787 how did they begin their meetings? Did they begin with a prayer to the "ancient Western tradition of philosophy and political thought that recognizes a certain conception of rational human being possessed with free will."???

I never read that anywhere.

Though I did read in Article I, Section 7, Paragraph 2: "If any bill shall not be returned by the President within 10 days (Sundays excepted)...

now why did those followers of "an ancient Western tradition of philosophy and political thought that recognizes a certain conception of rational human being possessed with free will" put that in the Constitution of all places, such a secular document to be revering such a perfectly good day to get some work done.

then there was this little diddy that just puzzles the hell out me since you have shared your infinite wisdom on the subject

"Done, in Convention, by the unanimous consent of the States present, the seventeenth day of September, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven."

Now why would they have said in the year of our Lord rather than just a plain ole 1787. And come to think of it, why in the hell is this year 2007, why surely there are other calendars out there, why is it officially 2007 in the United States.

now also this puzzles me and I am sure an astute historian such as yourself can help me with this one, now Tanvat obviously you know James Madison is basically the man who fathered the Constitution you speak of that is devoid of God.

Now why would this man say this...
"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."

Now why would he reference something so Judeo-Christian as the Ten Commandments Tanvat, Why would he do that?

then damn it Tanvat, I know this just run contrary to the whole liberal notion that we ain't a nation based on Judeo-Christian beliefs and Thomas Jefferson was obviously not a Christian--I know you guys keep saying that stuff.

Now why did Thomas Jefferson propose to the committee to draft the seal of the new nation that it should say "the children of Israel in the wilderness, led by a cloud by day, and a pillar of fire by night."

Why would he propose such a thing.

Why would he say, "God who gave us life gave us liberty."

Why would Jefferson say that?

I'm sure an astute historian who earlier knew nothing about history, then later implied he knew everything and I was a simpleton but only proved his former statement that he knew nothing, I'm sure you could find the answer

If you weren't such a hater

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