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I only read half of it and that was enough. I don't know who wrote that and I don't care. Arm teachers? How about students? How about janitors? How about teacher's aides? Cafeteria workers? How many guns would be enough in any single school? I'll tell you this.....fork that!!!

I'm for more security at schools. I'm OK with paying a bit more for some security upgrades and a bit larger Police presence (not sure about the logistics of that yet....need to think more).....but to just arm teachers and people in the schools because "they need to defend themselves".....BULLCHIT!! I don't want that many guns floating around in a school with people who need to concentrate on teaching....and it's unjustified.

Look.....if you are a pro-gun person, as I am, please don't run off in the other direction as fast as the anti-gun folks are running off in their direction.....by doing so, you give them merit. If you act as if all of the guns already in our hands aren't enough, and we nned more to protect ourselves.....at some point, you sound like a friggin' lunatic....and I won't be on your side anymore.

My kids can't bring book bags to school tomorrow....they can't go into the school using the doors they usually use....their classroom doors will be locked once they are inside.......

I'm pissed off enough......don't push it. This is all a bunch of bullchit. I count on the people who understand what happened in Sandyhook to keep a level head, and understand that it was an incident much more rare than a simple lightning strike.

Shut the fork up about needing more guns....you'll make us look like them.

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As an inside guy tell me how many times a year the average cop practices with his gun. Then tell me that a citizen is less qualified to defend the children in his/her care.

When cops are just minutes away, tell me how a teacher/principal already at the scene is likely to cause more harm than good when a bad guy starts shooting.

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I have no idea what the average is. We shoot once per month, minimum....but we have our own range. Additionally, we train in our school buildings with simmunitions....we are probably WAY above average when it comes to that, but other depts. could catch up.

Cops aren't minutes away if they are in the building.....yep, it'll cost more than your idea.

I have been a part of alot of discussions this week.....what I took away from it is that teachers want to teach, they don't want to carry guns.....of course, there are exceptions. The problem is, you will have to require constant training, refit schools with safes, etc. so that the guns could be put up if need be (everyone needs to sometimes), blah,blah,blah. It's a bigger undertaking than most realize.

I gotta tell you, civil law protects Police Officers in the case of acting with the best intentions and shooting an innocent....we'd have to pass laws to protect teachers. I could go on and on about the logistical problems with it.

Look, teachers teach, cops shoot bad guys.....get more cops for the schools.

Read a book or two by Lt. David Grossmann.....he's an expert on mass shootings. I have heard him speak in person as well as read his books. He has always said that if our enemies REALLY wanted to cripple us they would attack our grade schools. He believes our entire economy could be crippled refitting and protecting schools. From what I have seen this week, he's right on the money.

Think this through.....it's not as simple as it appears.

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