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Re: Cards.......
      06/05/17 12:13 PM

The cards initially made an offer for a 5 year deal.........thinking they would control him through 2016 and then thinking he wouldn't leave the town or team after 16 seasons..........allowing them signing him to one final deal in 2016. They should have given him a 7 year deal with team options for years 8-10, of needed to make him happy........and bigger money For incentives and playing good in those final years. Instead they low balled him out of the gate. I would have been pissed off too

Only when other teams got involved, and it looked like we might lose him, did the Cards step up their offer. If they had no damn problems going PQ years and $200 million at the end of negotiations, why not do more on the front end of negotiations if they wanted to keep him.

I mean Gawd Dammit..........they wanted to pay Jason Heyward $25 million a year for 8 seasons. A career .260 hitter who hits 20 dingers a year.........all because he has a great WAR. MO was willing to go Full retard on The Heyward deal, but went half ass on a career .330 hitter, who is sill producing more at the plate as an old man than Heyward

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