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Re: Cards.......
      09/19/17 11:23 AM

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H2ODOG said:
For the record, Fowler wasn't the issue. Yes he started off the season with one of the worst starts a player could have. Dude has batted .285 in the second half of the season and batted .286 in the month of June. April and May hurt his average bad. He hit lots of HR's but that was about it. A few stints on the DL didn't help either.

Same player as Heyward offensively for less money......but we still overpaid to get him to sign. He's more of a $10-14 million a year guy.




No doubt Fowler was not THE problem. He was, however one of many problems. For what he was paid and what was expected, he was a significant disappointment. No way to sugar coat it. He was being paid to play at a reasonable level all year. He will likely have around 60 RBI's, over 100 strikeouts and played a below average outfield, by any metrics you want to use. I hope like hell he gets is chit together next year or this will go down as one of the worst signings in the last several years... Although Cecil may have that honor already wrapped up.

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